reported Petrovich cannot see targets on Cold War Germany map

[grusche]

On the Cold War Germany map Petrovich cannot see targets. On other maps I do not have this problem. what am i doing wrong?petrovich test germany.trkpetrovich test caucasus.trk

[HC_Official]

it is not just this map I was flying on Grayflag Persian gulf and petrov could not see a t-55 sitting in plain site he just wouldnt want to target it with ATGM

[Reslox]

The way I get around this annoying issue is flying close enough for petrovich to see the targets without the aid of the ATGM scope. Once he reports seeing the target you can fly away to a safe distance and tell petro to aim at the targets (assuming you survived flying close enough in the first place).

[SemperFi]

I have the same problem. Petrovich only sees some targets, but he can't find others without cover. I have this problem on several maps, and now the MI24 is only playable with a human gunner.

Edited Sunday at 08:25 AM by SemperFi

[jojojung]

I have the same Problem but only on the Germany map.

[Flappie]

The problem affects several terrains. Ugra Media have been working on this matter on Germany but it looks like it needs more work. Some terrains have multiple "decoration" objects, such as walls, barriers... and the Petrovitch AI has to process them to know whether it can see an enemy or not. The more objects, the more Petrovich gets lost. I believe it can also cause performance issues.

Without data, devs won't be able to identify problems. When this issue arises, please provide a short track. If you can't provide a short track, at least provide target coordinates along with the Hind heading. I'll reproduce the issue and show it to devs.

[HC_Official]

just had this happen on Caucaus

[Flappie]

40 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Without data, devs won't be able to identify problems. When this issue arises, please provide a short track. If you can't provide a short track, at least provide target coordinates along with the Hind heading. I'll reproduce the issue and show it to devs.

Don't forget the periscope gyro can be botched, which prevents Petrovich to find targets (because he's not looking where you look at anymore). You can check whether the issue comes from the botched gyro by switching to Petrovich seat and try to find the target using the periscope.

[SemperFi]

I have an example of the Germany map here. I used it because it's easy to reproduce.
It's an urban area, but the error sometimes occurs in other areas as well.
I've tried it several times, and the result was the same.

I hope this can help.

[Flappie]

Many thanks for the example, @SemperFi.

I gave it a go and Petrovich was actually able to find it. Since the map was updated some weeks ago, please make sure your DCS is up-to-date, just in case.

M113_germany.trk

[SemperFi]

vor 37 Minuten schrieb Flappie:

Many thanks for the example, @SemperFi.

I gave it a go and Petrovich was actually able to find it. Since the map was updated some weeks ago, please make sure your DCS is up-to-date, just in case.

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Thanks for checking. This issue has been around for a while, but even the latest DCS version couldn't fix it.

[Flappie]

Maybe I got lucky. I saw a lot of decoration objects down there. Bicycles, benches, light poles, barriers...

[SemperFi]

Can you please check this again on my mission? If it works for you, the error must be mine.

petrovich.miz

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

5 hours ago, SemperFi said:

Can you please check this again on my mission? If it works for you, the error must be mine.

I just ran that mission.
Keep in mind it's the pilot's job to manoeuvre and position the helicopter in a way that gives Petrovich a proper line-of-sight to the target.
By the time I spotted them (they are not easy to find), I was already pretty close and I managed to destroy 3 M-113s on the first pass. I had to come around for the last one, since it moved and was obstructed by smoke.
I then approached from the opposite end, but Petrovich said: "target obstructed, need a different angle" so I broke off again and attacked from the side. This time I got the last M-113.

[SemperFi]

vor einer Stunde schrieb Raven (Elysian Angel):

Ich habe gerade diese Mission ausgeführt.
Bedenken Sie, dass es die Aufgabe des Piloten ist, den Hubschrauber so zu manövrieren und zu positionieren, dass Petrovich eine gute Sichtlinie zum Ziel hat.
Als ich sie entdeckte (sie sind nicht leicht zu finden), war ich schon ziemlich nah dran und konnte beim ersten Anflug drei M-113 zerstören. Beim letzten musste ich ausweichen, da er sich bewegte und durch Rauch verdeckt war.
Ich näherte mich dann vom anderen Ende, aber Petrovich sagte: „Ziel verdeckt, brauche einen anderen Winkel“, also brach ich wieder ab und griff von der Seite an. Diesmal erwischte ich den letzten M-113.

Thank you.

I've been using the Mi24P since its release. I understand that I need the correct angle. Perhaps the error is in my DCS files.

[Flappie]

14 hours ago, SemperFi said:

Can you please check this again on my mission? If it works for you, the error must be mine.

Thank you very much. In your mission, units are close to high buildings. Petrovich can't find them when I fly to the West. He finds them as soon as I fly to the East. I'll send my track to devs. 

Edited Tuesday at 10:45 PM by Flappie
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