Cyb0rg Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 My guess is that after a-10 , they will move towards to new engine and supersonic jets. Still doubt it will have a dynamic campaign. Same guess here. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asteroids ____________________________________________ Update this :D
MrReynolds Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Well to honest for me the 2 main things missing in the DCS series is a dynamic (ish) campaign and A-G radar. A-10....seen it before. AH-64 A ...souped up blackshark. Loving Blackshark and not griping against it, but would so love to do a 2 second pop up to get an area radar coverage - prioritise targets and let loose 6-7 hellfires in ripple mode :D
Pilotasso Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 You havent seen the A-10 like this before, even less C version ;) .
joey45 Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 A-10 C with AFM... and the AH64A is not a souped up Shark. The last time you had an AH64 was in LB. think of that but with better graphics, interface and just better... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Bulletstop Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Whelp I will be truly disappointed if we do not get the 64 after the a10. I will most likely not buy any fast movers as I really am not into them, however I was drooling when they announced the 64. Just my 2 cents worth. Bullet I7 4790K running at 4390 with a gigabyte board with 16 gigs of ram with an Asus gtx 660-ti and 2 tb of hard drive space on 2 wd hard drives. A X-65F Hotas with trackir4 and pro combat peddles. A kick butt home built machine unfortunately running a windows 7 OS.
Corsair8X Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Well, I do like my aircraft to have 30mm cannons. I suspect though that at least some of the time, what sim gets released will be influenced by what projects they are working on for military contracts. I think this was the reason why the A-10C essentially leapfrogged over the A-10A and others (based on that roadmap so very long ago). The Apache may in fact get pushed out of the way should they end up working on a contract for another aircraft (let's say the F-15 just for the benefit of putting a name to it). Would I be disappointed? Sure because it's one of the ones I'm waiting for. But I do think it is entirely understandable. Why shouldn't they roll those contracts into their sim development? It would be so much better than having to stop entirely so they could focus on another aircraft not on the roadmap laid out a long time ago. Just my $0.02. Corsair8X
EtherealN Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 Could this be why "we're" sticking to older aircraft??? :( We're sticking to older aircraft? The A10-C is fairly recent, isn't it? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Zakk Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 "Cant wait for the future release of the AH64" You don't like the Warthog? Gigabyte|Q6600|8GB DDR3|GTX285|Win7 64|X-65
joey45 Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Whats wrong with older aircrafts?? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Ivonq Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Come on, ED, don't break our balls by releasing another fixed wing aircraft after the A-10C! The Apache will provide your company with alot of publicity and will pull back alot of oldies, like myself, who used to love playing the Janes Apache series. It will even pull in a group of customers which are now totally not into flight sims. A fixed wing aircraft won't do that. In my opinion it would be best to do rotor/fixed/rotor/fixed etc.
Ivonq Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 "Cant wait for the future release of the AH64" You don't like the Warthog? I would choose the Apache above any other aircraft, and I bet alot of people do the same. A whole lot!
jctrnacty Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 YEah yeah, AH-64 si something we all want since longbow2 but i think we woun´t see it for some time now if ever. It´s easy to read between the lines. [sigpic][/sigpic] MB MSI x570 Prestige Creation, RYzen 9 3900X, 32 Gb Ram 3333MHz, cooler Dark rock PRO 4, eVGA 1080Ti, 32 inch BenQ 32011pt, saitek X52Pro, HP Reverb, win 10 64bit
104th_Crunch Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 He he, I try to find every "I want a heli" post so I can say NO :doh:. We have a hi-fidelity heli with the KA-50, and a hi-fi strike aircraft coming with the A-10C. Time for a hi-fi fighter from ED! I am sure ED will go with what they think is best and that's what counts.
joey45 Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 ........... I am sure ED will go with what they think is best and that's what counts. or what they can do... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 On the other hand, statistically most people will choose a jet ;) I would choose the Apache above any other aircraft, and I bet alot of people do the same. A whole lot! 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Kuky Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 ^^^ True that ;) 1 PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
jctrnacty Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 OK, my guess again, we got ka-50, after that we get a-10 and then ..... it´s time to please russian people so they will get i dont´t know maybe su-27. And after that ...americans again, f-15? and then maybe sometimes we will get that ah-64 finally. [sigpic][/sigpic] MB MSI x570 Prestige Creation, RYzen 9 3900X, 32 Gb Ram 3333MHz, cooler Dark rock PRO 4, eVGA 1080Ti, 32 inch BenQ 32011pt, saitek X52Pro, HP Reverb, win 10 64bit
joey45 Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 or they might go Euro and not go americans....?? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Ivonq Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) On the other hand, statistically most people will choose a jet ;) No, I seriously doubt that,.....I think if you create AH-64A or D you've a sure winner on your hands, which appeals to a much broader audenience. You could really achieve a much broader and deeper appeal, even upto the casual gamer, thereby expanding your current customer base. Trust me when I say that releasing (say) a F18 simulator won't have the same appeal as releasing an Apache Ah-64A or D simulator for the global market. The Apache will be talk of the day, and reaching even the most casual gamer. The F18 won't. I also think, from a business perspective spoken, that it would have been much more wise to release an Apache AH-64A or D before the Black Shark as its appeal for the market is much lower. There are already many jet sims out there...on a high level (OF, FF etc). From a sims perspective it is more interesting to learn how to fly a rotor than fixed wing aircraft. Anyhow, one can hope, not? :music_whistling: Marketing wise, the Apache brings gold...you'll see it when the A-10C will be released. It will go down well within the current customer base, but I don't think you'll expand alot. The Apache will do that for ED. Edited August 17, 2009 by Ivonq
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) No, I seriously doubt that, I know better. .....I think if you create AH-64A or D you've a sure winner on your hands, which appeals to a much broader audenience. You could really achieve a much broader and deeper appeal, even upto the casual gamer, thereby expanding your current customer base. Trust me when I say that releasing (say) a F18 simulator won't have the same appeal as releasing an Apache Ah-64A or D simulator for the global market. The Apache will be talk of the day, and reaching even the most casual gamer. The F18 won't. How can you be trusted when your statement is actually false? An F-18 would in fact appear to a broader audience than an AH-64(anyversion). I also think, from a business perspective spoken, that it would have been much more wise to release an Apache AH-64A or D before the Black Shark as its appeal for the market is much lower.Yes, an AH-64 may have been more popular than the Ka-50 ... but not in Russia. Are you going to tell me now that Russia is a much smaller market? There are already many jet sims out there...on a high level (OF, FF etc). From a sims perspective it is more interesting to learn how to fly a rotor than fixed wing aircraft. Anyhow, one can hope, not? :music_whistling:You can hope, but you're still wrong. ;) Furthermore, ED will be doing what fits their business plan, and AFAIK that means prioritizing military contracts - which by extension means that DCS modules will depend on what simulations are requested for by militaries - at least this appears to be the typical situation for now. Edited August 17, 2009 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Ivonq Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) I know better. How can you be trusted when your statement is actually false? An F-18 would in fact appear to a broader audience than an AH-64(anyversion). Yes, an AH-64 may have been more popular than the Ka-50 ... but not in Russia. Are you going to tell me now that Russia is a much smaller market? You can hope, but you're still wrong. ;) Furthermore, ED will be doing what fits their business plan, and AFAIK that means prioritizing military contracts - which by extension means that DCS modules will depend on what simulations are requested for by militaries - at least this appears to be the typical situation for now. I think I'm right, we'll compare numbers when the time comes :D Btw, my statement is not false. How many copies were sold of BS? Would you dare to compare numbers to those of an Apache release, given the same time span? Same applies for the A-10C. Maybe you should look further than just the current customer base? If ED could win the hearts of the casual gamer (by offering the Arcade mode -that was well done) and educates them. It would mean golden years for EDs gaming division. Trust me that all the other aircraft in the world won't do that....except the Apache.....but hell, what do I know...The Apache would be most wise, spoken from a business perspective: Mark My Words!!! Edited August 17, 2009 by Ivonq
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Your statement is quite false. You don't have to like it, nor do you have to admit it ... it's just the way it is. Pointynoses > Rotorheads :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
bumfire Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 meh, keep the apache and whatever other american jets, I just want an ENGLISH ELECTRIC LIGHTNING then I will be happy for life, also maybe throw in a Canberra and that would be my dream come true and I REALLY hope that ED do a Lightning as their should be enough info for that in the public domain now ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Lightning This was built in the days when Britain still had an Fighter AirCraft Industry and were on par with the yanks and the russkies. Please Ed, give us a Lightning :) 1
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 I don't think ED is much into retro fighters ... 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
joey45 Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 GO BRITISH!!!!! I don't think ED is much into retro fighters ... 3rd party addon - but in a controled invioment.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
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