MoCluck Posted August 21 Posted August 21 My DCS HDD is so full i cannot update the game and play it. Liveries for the F14 and F4 take up 34Gb of space between them. I don't even own these planes. This is a bit ridiculous. Is there a way to safely remove the liveries and not crash the game or move them to another drive? 1
MAXsenna Posted August 21 Posted August 21 @MoCluck Oh, another Treesize user! You can safely delete them, but they will just be downloaded again. (Have a look at the latest wishlist thread, and give your opinions there). What you can do is move coremods to another disk, and just make a symbolic link back to the main folder. Many users have done this with maps when their disk gets full. My DCS installation is ≈1TB. https://www.howtogeek.com/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/ There's even a shell extension you can use, which makes it all easy through a GUI. I know some other people are using even easier software to do this. The name escapes me though. Cheers!
silverdevil Posted August 21 Posted August 21 10 hours ago, MoCluck said: Is there a way to safely remove the liveries and not crash the game or move them to another drive? 10 hours ago, MAXsenna said: There's even a shell extension you can use, which makes it all easy through a GUI. Not sure if this is your thought max. this is one of the several i know. https://github.com/Benisgo/Symbolic11 1 AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
MAXsenna Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Not sure if this is your thought max. this is one of the several i know. https://github.com/Benisgo/Symbolic11Exactly that one! Thanks buddy! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1
pixelpilot Posted yesterday at 07:59 PM Posted yesterday at 07:59 PM I've just noticed the same thing. 55gb of aircraft files I don't even own. It would be good if you could check a box for each livery you want installed per aircraft, even the ones you do own. Makes sense if you only want to play certain theatres and/or time periods.
silverdevil Posted yesterday at 08:14 PM Posted yesterday at 08:14 PM 12 minutes ago, pixelpilot said: I've just noticed the same thing. 55gb of aircraft files I don't even own. It would be good if you could check a box for each livery you want installed per aircraft, even the ones you do own. Makes sense if you only want to play certain theatres and/or time periods. the pic posted by OP is CoreMods. when you join a server and fly against people, how will you see their AC represented? the CoreMods are all the official modules that DCS has. AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
Rudel_chw Posted yesterday at 08:21 PM Posted yesterday at 08:21 PM 20 minutes ago, pixelpilot said: 55gb of aircraft files I don't even own. Even if you don't own them, that just mean that you can't pilot them, but you can still use them as AI units on your missions, to play as opposition or allied units. 22 minutes ago, pixelpilot said: It would be good if you could check a box for each livery you want installed per aircraft, even the ones you do own. Just consider it for a bit: for example just the Phantom has 72 liveries ... you think that having 72 checkboxes would be practical? ... another example, the F-14 has 67 liveries, the F-16C has 51, and so on ... honestly, having to select which I want and which I don't would be really tedious, I'd rather select all of them and just consider a disk with 55 GB of extra space. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
TheBiggerBass Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Where does DCS look for liveries? And which location is prioritized in case the same liveries are installed more than once in seperate locations? I found these locations: DCS World/CoreMods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/Liveries DCS World/Mods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/Liveries Saved Games/DCS/Liveries/<aircraft name>/Liveries Saved Games/DCS/Mods/<aircraft name>/Liveries There may be even other locations. I also found the same liveries as .dds files in a directory but also packaged in a .zip file. Which ones does DCS use? I would like to store them at a single location in their most size efficient form, preferable as a .zip. System: HP Z2 Tower, Win11 24H2, i9-14900K, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD (M2) + 18TB HDD (Sata), GeForce RTX4070 TI Super 16GB VRAM, Samsung Odyssey 57" curved monitor (main screen) + BenQ 32" UW3270 (secondary screen), VKB Gunfighter Ultimate MK4 + S-TECS Throttle DCS: All terrains, allmost all modules, most user flyable mods - CA, WWII Assets
Czar Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: DCS World/CoreMods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/Liveries Actual external liveries. Controlled and non controlled aircraft. 13 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: DCS World/Mods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/Liveries Cockpit Textures. 13 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: Saved Games/DCS/Liveries/<aircraft name>/Liveries User made liveries that you download on the internet to enrich your experience. Optional and by default empty. The path is not right, btw. It should be: Saved Games/DCS/Liveries/<aircraft name>/<livery name> 13 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: Saved Games/DCS/Mods/<aircraft name>/Liveries Cockpit AND external textures/liveries that comes with an aircraft MOD by default. Edited 20 hours ago by Czar extra thingy there 1
TheBiggerBass Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Ok, understand. But in which priority does DCS looks them up to use them? Like this? Saved Games/DCS/Mods/<aircraft name>/Liveries Saved Games/DCS/Liveries/<aircraft name>/<livery name> DCS World/CoreMods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/Liveries Which would imply to only place new liveries in Saved Games/DCS/Mods/<aircraft name>/Liveries What format have these liveries to be stored? Do they have to stored as .dds in there seperate directories or can the directory be packed as a space saving .zip? System: HP Z2 Tower, Win11 24H2, i9-14900K, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD (M2) + 18TB HDD (Sata), GeForce RTX4070 TI Super 16GB VRAM, Samsung Odyssey 57" curved monitor (main screen) + BenQ 32" UW3270 (secondary screen), VKB Gunfighter Ultimate MK4 + S-TECS Throttle DCS: All terrains, allmost all modules, most user flyable mods - CA, WWII Assets
Rudel_chw Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 28 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: can the directory be packed as a space saving .zip? zipping liveries does not save disk space, because the graphics format of the textures is usually already compressed. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Czar Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 31 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: Ok, understand. But in which priority does DCS looks them up to use them? Like this? This is not MSFS or XPlane. There is no priority. Everything is loaded in demand as the game loads up the models, either in Mission Editor, Mission or whatever as soon as the game needs to show the model with the texture. 33 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: What format have these liveries to be stored? Do they have to stored as .dds in there seperate directories or can the directory be packed as a space saving .zip? Separate directories and textures in .dds.
Czar Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 48 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said: Which would imply to only place new liveries in Saved Games/DCS/Mods/<aircraft name>/Liveries See if it works. If it does show in game, is no problemo.
TheBiggerBass Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago vor 7 Stunden schrieb Rudel_chw: zipping liveries does not save disk space, because the graphics format of the textures is usually already compressed. That's not true. F-16C Baltic Dragon.zip livery uses 55MB space, unpacked it's 278MB. Other liveries yield to similar ratios. But ok, question answered by @Czar. I was just curious why DCS downloads a lot of liveries in .zip format when updating and thought it might be a space saving option. 2 System: HP Z2 Tower, Win11 24H2, i9-14900K, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD (M2) + 18TB HDD (Sata), GeForce RTX4070 TI Super 16GB VRAM, Samsung Odyssey 57" curved monitor (main screen) + BenQ 32" UW3270 (secondary screen), VKB Gunfighter Ultimate MK4 + S-TECS Throttle DCS: All terrains, allmost all modules, most user flyable mods - CA, WWII Assets
Czar Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, TheBiggerBass said: That's not true. F-16C Baltic Dragon.zip livery uses 55MB space, unpacked it's 278MB. Other liveries yield to similar ratios. Fascinating. I'll try to zip some liveries to see the results.
Rudel_chw Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, TheBiggerBass said: That's not true. F-16C Baltic Dragon.zip livery uses 55MB space, unpacked it's 278MB. Other liveries yield to similar ratios. You are correct, I was assuming that the DDS built-in compression was better, guess it is tuned for faster uncompression than minimum size. However, on the liveries I tested the difference isnt as big as 55 vs 278: For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Czar Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Czar said: Fascinating. I'll try to zip some liveries to see the results. This failed. DCS does not recognize .zip/compressed liveries inside Saved Games/DCS/Liveries/<aircraft name>, the same way liveries are compressed inside DCS<rootfolder>/CoreMods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/Liveries. If there is a way to do it on another folder, I'm not aware.
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