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spec to run sh5..

 

wow very good news indeed.

 

 

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1155576&postcount=30

 

Yes good news, I actually don't thing that the engine changed since SH4, just pimped up.

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Silent Hunter 5 Collector Edition, as well as Standard Edition, will be available from March 4th 2010 onwards.

 

The collector will include:

 

-Silent hunter 5: Battle Of the Atlantic PC DVD-Rom

 

-Game manual

 

-Official guide, containing all in-game details

 

-Authentic map of the Battle Of the Atlantic

 

-SH5 original Soundtrack

 

-7 unique submarine & enemy ship skins

 

-One iron box

 

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Sadly, details on the DRMs used for SH5 have been released as well:

 

- An internet connection is needed to play the game. If the connection is lost while the game is running, it will be paused until connection is reestablished.

- User-logs will be saved on the UBI-server.

- It is not possible to deactivate the game or your account. It will not be possible to give away the registred game.

 

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Yep I red this also today.. mixed impressions for the new ubisoft creation

Disturbing is that you can not sell the used game... it's like buying condoms!

Edited by asparagin
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Here we go again with the ridiculous DRM... honestly this game is catering to a smaller foot print of simmers than flight sims so why is the DRM even that robust...I mean look at Dragon Age Origins or Borderlands the games shipped with no DRM and it sold huge numbers on the PC.

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You'll never stop a pirate. Someone heading up the anti pirating research is passing those secrets to the underground at a hefty price. Corruption is everywhere and to include measures like this just pisses the gamers off and doesn't solve a thing.

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Every copy pirated is income lost. In a niche this small, those small numbers make a huge impact.

 

Face it folks - DRM is not going away.

 

MW2 was widely pirated. Dragon Age was well pirated. Both games sold very well on the consoles, but PC sales could have been better had it not been for the fact you could download them for illegally AND play online. Borderlands is another game that falls into that category.

 

The upside on my part is that I had no interest in any of them. I also have no problem with development studios wanting to protect their investment by using DRM. Anyone who reformates so much as to use all of their activations in a short period of time needs to recheck their computing habits lol!

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Well, if you take a close look into the description, the copy-protection and the recent history of UBI-games, it's pretty obvious that it's not the pirates UBI is worried about, but ebay!

 

When you make a game that you know in and out after 8 hours of playing, it's pretty obvious, that the games will sooner or later enter the circle of ebay-reselling. And there is a huge market for those games, because one part tries to get rid of the games they played through, as long as they still get some money from it, and masses of customers who know they won't spend the full price for a game they won't play for more than 8 hours. And these customers can play a game, they even give their money, but not to UBI. If just half of the games bought are sold on ebay, that's a massive loss for a company. And some games switch customers dozens of times.

 

The answer was UBI's DRM for Spore with 3 activations (IIRC 5 after massive protests) - no deactivation possible (AFAIK). And you really though that was against piracy and that is why they improved it? Think again, because Spore is the game with the most illegal copies of all games in the history of video-games.

 

With UBI's new DRM for SH5 and Settlers7, you cannot give away the game at all, once you activated it and you have to be online while your playing. Your usage will be tracked, your stats recorded. Yay...

 

 

But doesn't it help against pirates? Yes, it may. But as stated by UBI themselves: Sooner or later there will be a patch that will disable this forced online-connection. You really think that UBI will be the first to release this patch once the servers are down, when they already announced there's a backdoor wide open?

As always the one suffering from it is the honest customer, but definitely not the pirates.

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MW2 was rejected by the pc community for lack of dedicated servers and a few other things they felt shafted on. It's widly priated on xbox with the xbox mods that still haven't been cracked yet it still outsold any other game by lightyears.

 

I understand what you're saying total, it will be an adjustment on the player side of things, but pirating has been around for ever and software has always been made. Same with movies. To burden the purchaser isn't the best way in my opinion, but I dont operate on a corporate level. I can't play silent hunter when I'm on the road unless I have an Internet connection. Or on a plane when I can't stand the in flight movie.

 

I'm curious to know the silent hunter demographic. The younger ones seem to pirate more. They play so many games in a year they're allowance simply can't afford it. There are maybe one or two games a year I'll look into and I will be paying for them. Is silent hunter a game that aged 9-21 will play?

 

 

I as a consumer don't care that the CEO of ubi doesn't get his 14 million dollar bonus, so therefore jaming the gamer into a forced sale without a get out of jail card (eBay) means I'll keep my money in my wallet. Reward the paying consumer, don't trap them.

 

No thanks, I was curious but that seals the deal for me. (nothing personal obviously, just no point gambling on a genre I'm not familiar with.) Perhaps if I was into it more I'd go for it. :)

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Well, if you take a close look into the description, the copy-protection and the recent history of UBI-games, it's pretty obvious that it's not the pirates UBI is worried about, but ebay!

 

Correct, second this is a big step towards digitalization. There is no reason to buy the dvd because it is worthless without internet. Except you buy the collectors edition which means more money for ubi.

 

Your usage will be tracked, your stats recorded. Yay...

 

..everyone will now that you suck at SH5, or: look at that guy, he plays at 85% realism..:huh:

 

 

I can't play silent hunter when I'm on the road unless I have an Internet connection. Or on a plane when I can't stand the in flight movie.

 

Sadly also true.

 

In the end I think it's appropriate to officially open the "I love Starforce" Club.

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Posted (edited)

have to agree this measure is stupid and would never work correct..

maybe register once online for offline access play.

 

what happens during server maintance or connection problems? = you cant play sh5 offline . thats good eh?

 

they need to have offline mode available or they could loose a lot more customers ubi.

 

..online mode should be the usual way register login password..

Edited by diveplane
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I can't but help think about the guys who can't have a constant internet connection that want to play this. When I was in the Air Force, I was flying all over the world. Being in the air for +8 hours I would play games on my laptop(I was a Crew Chief so my job didn't start until we landed). SH4 was one of them! This sucks for everyone who doesn't have Internets all the time.

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Its the first Silent Hunter I dont buy it. Sad, but I never buy a game that impose a condition like being connected all the time online. Bye bye, SH V & UBI! :furious:

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Posted (edited)

Wow, I thought I was the only one who was radically against this type of protection. I don't feel quite so bitty anymore :).

 

March will mark HBO's the pacific, fsx superbug and possily battlefield bad company. SH5 is no longer an option. More out of spite than anything ;).

 

F.C 2 would trump everything though...even the pacific which I have been waiting for since two days after band of brothers ;)

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