investigating Switching to the front seat and we bob up from 20 feet to 100 feet.

[cobrabase]

Picture this.  I'm hovering all sneaky at 20-30 feet. I switch from the the backseat over to the CPG seat in the Kola map (seen this in Germany as well) and we instantly bob up to 100 feet.   Attaching a track file and a video file.

Video at 

 

 

altitude bug.trk

Edited September 12 by cobrabase

[CAPA]

yup same for me

[BIGNEWY]

Hi 

please let us know which terrains you are having issues on, it maybe specific to a terrain. 

Please add track replay examples when you see issues, make them as short as possible 

thank you 

[cobrabase]

The track was long because I was trying to isolate whether it was a missed setting at start-up and I figured it might help.  

 

Terrain is over... well... grass.   Do you mean maps?  Seeing it in Kola, Germany and, as of last weekend, in Normandy.   

[BIGNEWY]

Yes which maps. 

We will need a track replay example as the team are unable to reproduce.

thank you 

[cobrabase]

Okay.  The issue is NOT connected to launching from a non-airbase.  This has been tested.   Still seeing the issue in Germany and Kola. 

Edited October 7 by cobrabase

[Ornithopter]

It would have been so much cooler if they had named him "Bob" instead of "George".

[cobrabase]

On 9/27/2025 at 9:22 PM, Ornithopter said:

It would have been so much cooler if they had named him "Bob" instead of "George".

Could you not use the track file I posted?  I apologize for the length... I'm not sure if I did the file correctly. 

 

[cobrabase]

On 9/13/2025 at 4:50 AM, CAPA said:

yup same for me

Which maps do you see it in?   I see it in Germany and Kola. 

[MAXsenna]

On 10/7/2025 at 1:30 PM, cobrabase said:

Could you not use the track file I posted?  I apologize for the length... I'm not sure if I did the file correctly. 

 

Make a mission with an airstart in the Caucasus, (if it does happen there that is), repeat the procedure and save the track. Then you have a very short track that will save the devs a lot of time. 

Cheers?

 

[cobrabase]

On 10/8/2025 at 11:47 PM, MAXsenna said:

Make a mission with an airstart in the Caucasus, (if it does happen there that is), repeat the procedure and save the track. Then you have a very short track that will save the devs a lot of time. 

Cheers?

 

Thanks man.   I did starts because I've never seen the bug occur with air starts.

[MAXsenna]

Thanks man.   I did starts because I've never seen the bug occur with air starts.

Well, that makes sense then! Wonder what the difference is, hopefully they can nail it down!

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[fargo007]

I had this occur last night on CWG.

We were trying to organize remote hellfire shots on a SAM site being lased by a 58. 

Every time I would hit a hover and switch to the front seat (which automatically gave George flight control), he would immediately pull the collective into his armpit, vaulting the helicopter upward. I had to switch back to the rear seat and evade missiles and radar locks. Commands in H-B mode to lower altitude were acknowledged, but he kept going upward.

I also tried switching such that I'd have George slow the apache down and hover it. Same thing. This was a cold start, from Fulda airbase.

It occurs several times in this track and I fought with it for a good 15-20 minutes. @BIGNEWY 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QhnVKVUVft946O_bYBERzMliI9kV0tip/view?usp=sharing

Edited 9 hours ago by fargo007

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

the track replay here is about 100mb, I will take a look however the chances of it replaying correctly are low. 

Can you let me know how the aircraft was configured, loadout and its weight, is it possible you are handing over the aircraft that is to heavy for George to maintain a hover? 

[fargo007]

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

the track replay here is about 100mb, I will take a look however the chances of it replaying correctly are low. 

Can you let me know how the aircraft was configured, loadout and its weight, is it possible you are handing over the aircraft that is to heavy for George to maintain a hover? 

 

Sorry about that, it's from the actual mission we flew. 

It had six RF hellfires and two SAL hellfires on 2x2 racks, with an FCR and full fuel. 

It was within OGE hover limits for conditions (-4C). Besides - George had no problem going straight up as fast as possible. He did not warn or refuse as he has in the past.

If it matters, the aircraft had a target as the acquisition source at the time. 

Will try to reproduce in a smaller file.