150GCT_Diego Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Hello team I'm playing with the new amazing toy ( beautiful plane, great job ) and I was trying to set the throttle idle-off toggle command , but it does not seems to be working, while the two separate commands ( idle and off ) are working correctly. I've first tried it on my warthog throttle on the idle button that the throttles have when they're moved all the way back, and then over the step ( as the real aircraft, they have the step from idle to off ) , but it did not seem to work. I've then tried with other buttons on the warthog and got the same result, but, when I've tried with two separate actions ( idle and off ) it worked fine with all the combinations I've tried. Is it a defect or am I doing something wrong ? Side question, not sure it's an issue: I vaguely remember that the gun can't be fired when there's a ventral tank installed. Did I remembered wrong ?
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 22 Posted September 22 13 minutes ago, 150GCT_Diego said: Is it a defect or am I doing something wrong ? Not as far as I am aware. Most modules have a Off/Idle(HOLD) binding, which works very well for most hardware. I had to use the 2 separate bindings as well on my CM3 throttle. 14 minutes ago, 150GCT_Diego said: I vaguely remember that the gun can't be fired when there's a ventral tank installed. Did I remembered wrong ? I think you misremember: as far as I know, the only limitations with the centre tank is APU exhaust gasses couldn't exit (that was later fixed), and the inability to operate the air brakes. Or perhaps I misremember and it wasn't APU exhaust gasses but gun exhaust gasses... Either way, it is fixed and you can see that by the hole in the fuel tank, which you can see in this picture (black round hole in the tank): Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with 20cm S-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
150GCT_Diego Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Not as far as I am aware. Most modules have a Off/Idle(HOLD) binding, which works very well for most hardware. I had to use the 2 separate bindings as well on my CM3 throttle. I think you misremember: as far as I know, the only limitations with the centre tank is APU exhaust gasses couldn't exit (that was later fixed), and the inability to operate the air brakes. Or perhaps I misremember and it wasn't APU exhaust gasses but gun exhaust gasses... Either way, it is fixed and you can see that by the hole in the fuel tank, which you can see in this picture (black round hole in the tank): I have the Off/Idle toggle set for the other modules and it's working fine on the throttle button at the end ( to simulate the real life ones ) ... specifically f-16, F/A-18, F-5 and MB-339 I'm absolutely sure that they're working fine. But there the issue seems to be that the Toggle button option is not working, while the separate buttons for Idle and Off are working fine. The hole in the ventral tank is for the APU, I'm quite sure ... But about the cannon, it's just my memory ... however, in the game it worked, so it's probably my memory ... but I wanted to check with you
GrafRotz Posted September 22 Posted September 22 same here for the Warthog, toggle is not toggeling. OFF and ON are working. 1
AlpineGTA Posted September 22 Posted September 22 The toggle on/off is not working for me either. I've had to map separate buttons for off and on. 1 i5-11600K CPU, 64GB DDR4 RAM, XFX Speedster MERC319 AMD Radeon 6900 XT, Oculus Quest 2, HP Reverb G2
andrewd251 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Each button in dcs has an "on" and "off" assignment. Use button xx as throttle cutoff. Then assign idle to the same button xx_off. Apologies if that doesn't make sense i found it very hard to put in words.
Solution Sabadin Posted September 24 Solution Posted September 24 (edited) This is how you want to bind the Warthog Throttles if you want to use the Cutoff detent. Pulling it over the detent will place the MiG throttle to OFF, bringing the throttle back forward to IDLE will place the MiG throttle in IDLE. Edited September 24 by Sabadin 2
cha5er Posted September 27 Posted September 27 it seems that the binding Idle/off which i normally use, has absolute no effect... neither on the throttle nor on a keyboard binding
Dača Posted September 27 Posted September 27 You mean we can't change default binding in the settings?
MAXsenna Posted September 27 Posted September 27 it seems that the binding Idle/off which i normally use, has absolute no effect... neither on the throttle nor on a keyboard bindingIf you have a Warthog, you must bind buttons 29/30 as "on" for "idle off", and 29/30_OFF for "idle on"If that makes sense. Someone posted a screenshot of the correct somewhere else. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
mytai01 Posted September 27 Posted September 27 Is the MiG-29 throttle similar to the MiG-21 throttle? In the 21, you have to hit a lever to release it from off to idle. It's not just a matter of moving the throttle a certain way. So, What's the mechanism that keeps the 29's throttles from moving from off to idle? I'd be happy to bind a couple of separate buttons as the release mechanism if it doesn't just involve moving the throttles a certain way. MS Win7 Pro x64, Intel i7-6700K 4.0Ghz, Corsair RAM 16Gb,EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, w/ Adjustable RGB LED Graphics Card 08G-P4-6286-KR, Creative Labs SB X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Champ PCIe Sound Card, Corsair Neutron XTI 1TB SSD, TM Warthog Throttle & Stick, TM TPR Pedels, Oculus Rift VR Headset CV1, Klipsch Promedia 4.1 Speakers...
AeriaGloria Posted September 27 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, mytai01 said: Is the MiG-29 throttle similar to the MiG-21 throttle? In the 21, you have to hit a lever to release it from off to idle. It's not just a matter of moving the throttle a certain way. So, What's the mechanism that keeps the 29's throttles from moving from off to idle? I'd be happy to bind a couple of separate buttons as the release mechanism if it doesn't just involve moving the throttles a certain way. Do you see these silver paddles on back of throttles? 2 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 28 Posted September 28 22 hours ago, cha5er said: it seems that the binding Idle/off which i normally use, has absolute no effect... neither on the throttle nor on a keyboard binding Please use the search function on the forum: 1 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with 20cm S-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
150GCT_Diego Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 Thanks, it worked My bad, did not know about this system 1
cha5er Posted September 29 Posted September 29 (edited) oh yeah you got me on this one... ^^ but not even the other bug-thread is flagged as reported or similar... so its probably not harmful to bring some attention to it... Edited September 29 by cha5er
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted September 29 Posted September 29 (edited) 20 minutes ago, cha5er said: so its probably not harmful to bring some attention to it... Not at all, but what is likely to get more attention: 5 threads with 5 posts each, or 1 thread with 25 posts? On 2/9/2023 at 11:35 PM, NineLine said: We do not have time to read through a 30 post thread of two people arguing why something is bad, in fact most times we will just read the first post for the idea and move on from there, if there are 30 posts and a good star rating we will just assume everyone loves the idea. Yes that means that those of you that love arguing about ideas you don't like will actually help the idea get views. So if you don't like it, don't respond, give it 1 star. Granted, this quote is about wishlists, but still. Edited September 29 by Raven (Elysian Angel) 1 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with 20cm S-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
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