Max107 Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM (edited) Hey guys, As the title says, The moment i connect and get the "connected" message, right after i get the "transfer complete-disconnect" message. what I'm asking is What is the exact thing that causing the bug? additional info: AAR Door open enough time in advance Fuel is not full or near full No 'unlimited fuel' selected boom connection and flight skills are not the issue the tanked is KC135 and is a "tanker=a" in the mission editor fuel switches set correctly same problem on Syria/Caucasus maps i tried to open/close the AAR door and re-request connection several times tried with different fuel quantities (and even dropped the external tanks - problem continued until i ran out of fuel. Thanks. UPDATE + SOLUTION: I think i found the problem- e.g #1: i start a flight with ext tanks & with not fully fueled jet-> no problem - everything works fine i connect and refuel. e.g #2: i start a flight with ext tanks & with fully fueled jet-> i try to refuel after losing some fuel (obviously from the ext tanks automatically)->problem Note: When putting external fuel tanks, you cannot set the fuel amount in them separately; you can only chose the "fuel%" which one would assume is the internal jet fuel- (Wrong). Because when you put less than "fuel 100%" and start the flight, you will see that neither the external/internal tanks are full. meaning the "fuel%" will decrease both ext AND internal fuel. My conclusion is that there is a bug that wont let the tanker fill you if the inside-fuel-tanks are full. that's why he's keep telling me "tRaNsFeR cOmPlEtE - dIsCoNneCt"- He sees me as fully fueled because he only cares about the internal tanks. Solution: Whenever mission editing a client plane- lower the "fuel%" to 99%, this way, after losing the fuel in your external tanks, the tanker will fuel you because initially he will see that you're not 100% full (which this is the core bug i think). Calculations: Internal fuel capacity: 7,163 External wing tanks(x2) fuel Capacity: 4,950 Combined: 7,163+4,950=12,113 so if you reduce the jet fuel by 50% you should expect: 7,163-50% = 3,583 + 4950 = 8,532 Total fuel when the externals are full and the internals are 50% empty. And this is what you indeed get in the jet when you start the flight. so how do you explain this: (pic below- internals full and externals.. some %tage empty lol --- Now, am i the only one suffers from this bug? Edited 1 hour ago by Max107 Solution
rob10 Posted Tuesday at 11:29 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:29 PM 15 minutes ago, Max107 said: Hey guys, As the title says, The moment i connect and get the "connected" message, right after i get the "refueling complete-disconnect" message. It's not about the flying/boom connection not anything obvious that i forgot to do. I'm pretty sure its a bug. what I'm asking is What is the exact thing that causing the bug? Mission info: Single Player, 2 external wing tanks, Syria map, Tanker is orbiting. i don't remember that i had this problem before, it started suddenly with this new mission I've built. i tried to start cold & dark AND air start with the same 'plane'(client) and same result- "refueling complete, disconnect". Now look- in this very mission (same mission file) but with a different client F16 that i air start, also with external wing bags, i don't have this problem! so wth?? Thanks. Which tanker? I've seen that with the KC-10 (I think that's the one) which will put out a basket for the F-18, but isn't functional so you can't get fuel. 1
MAXsenna Posted Tuesday at 11:33 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:33 PM Make a very short track, and post it here. And I'm positive someone will find the error.Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
RyanR Posted Tuesday at 11:48 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:48 PM You don't have unlimited fuel enabled? The client planes aren't already with 100% fuel? I agree, post a TRK. I wonder if there is a gremlin in your .miz file. -Ryan 1
MAXsenna Posted Tuesday at 11:52 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:52 PM 4 minutes ago, RyanR said: You don't have unlimited fuel enabled? The client planes aren't already with 100% fuel? I agree, post a TRK. I wonder if there is a gremlin in your .miz file. -Ryan This sounds very plausible!
Max107 Posted Wednesday at 02:58 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 02:58 AM 3 hours ago, rob10 said: Which tanker? I've seen that with the KC-10 (I think that's the one) which will put out a basket for the F-18, but isn't functional so you can't get fuel. KC-135 (boom) 3 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Make a very short track, and post it here. And I'm positive someone will find the error. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk thank you, i will 3 hours ago, RyanR said: You don't have unlimited fuel enabled? The client planes aren't already with 100% fuel? I agree, post a TRK. I wonder if there is a gremlin in your .miz file. -Ryan No 'Unlimited fuel', i start with 100% fuel but i do lose fuel until i try to reful, 2,000lbs atleast (12k to 10k or less) 1
NytHawk Posted Wednesday at 07:23 AM Posted Wednesday at 07:23 AM External bags must be depressurized in order to be air refueled. This is done by opening the AAR door several minutes prior to refueling. 1
Max107 Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM (edited) 15 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Make a very short track, and post it here. And I'm positive someone will find the error. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk https://www.filemail.com/d/kesgohplrgqxxui 15 hours ago, RyanR said: You don't have unlimited fuel enabled? The client planes aren't already with 100% fuel? I agree, post a TRK. I wonder if there is a gremlin in your .miz file. -Ryan https://www.filemail.com/d/kesgohplrgqxxui 7 hours ago, NytHawk said: External bags must be depressurized in order to be air refueled. This is done by opening the AAR door several minutes prior to refueling. I've tested with 3\5\7 min prior AAR door open and same result. Edited Wednesday at 03:11 PM by Max107
NytHawk Posted Wednesday at 04:11 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:11 PM 1 hour ago, Max107 said: https://www.filemail.com/d/kesgohplrgqxxui Can you submit a .trk file which doesn't require us to download the T-45 mod please? 1
Max107 Posted Wednesday at 04:13 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 04:13 PM 1 minute ago, NytHawk said: Can you submit a .trk file which doesn't require us to download the T-45 mod please? Sorry! im new to this, gonna do it asap! 1
Max107 Posted Wednesday at 05:00 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 05:00 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, NytHawk said: Can you submit a .trk file which doesn't require us to download the T-45 mod please? https://www.filemail.com/d/okmnswmnybfddiq two attempts, second attempt is after jettison of the ext wing bags- same result. (sorry i lost patience there..) Edited Wednesday at 05:21 PM by Max107
Tenkom Posted Wednesday at 06:27 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:27 PM 10 hours ago, NytHawk said: External bags must be depressurized in order to be air refueled. This is done by opening the AAR door several minutes prior to refueling. Not saying you’re wrong. But I’ve done probably close to fifty AARs in the viper and I usually open the door just before pre contact and I have never experienced not getting full bags. Maybe the time it takes to fill the internals is enough? Although I’m pretty sure Ive started tanking with close to full internals at least a few times. 1
Solution Max107 Posted 3 hours ago Author Solution Posted 3 hours ago (edited) On 10/7/2025 at 7:52 PM, MAXsenna said: This sounds very plausible! On 10/8/2025 at 12:11 PM, NytHawk said: Can you submit a .trk file which doesn't require us to download the T-45 mod please? I think i found the problem- e.g #1: i start a flight with ext tanks & with not fully fueled jet -> no problem - everything works fine i connect and refuel. e.g #2: i start a flight with ext tanks & with fully fueled jet -> i try to refuel after losing some fuel (obviously from the ext tanks automatically) -> problem Note: When putting external fuel tanks, you cannot set the fuel amount in them separately; you can only chose the "fuel%" which one would assume is the internal jet fuel- (Wrong, its overall fuel amount). Because when you put less than "fuel 100%" and start the flight, you will see that neither the external/internal tanks are full. meaning the "fuel%" will decrease both ext AND internal fuel. My conclusion is that there is a bug that wont let the tanker fill you if the inside-fuel-tanks are full. that's why he's keep telling me "tRaNsFeR cOmPlEtE - dIsCoNneCt"- He sees me as fully fueled because he only cares about the internal tanks. Solution: whenever mission editing a client plane- lower the "fuel%" to 99%, this way, after losing the fuel in your external tanks, the tanker will fuel you because initially he will see that you're not 100% full (which this is the core bug i think). Now, am i the only one suffers from this bug? Edited 3 hours ago by Max107
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