LOOKING FORWARD TO A-10C

[hannibal]

every day i think of the potential release of this simulation at some point next year...

 

im in the process of modding an old suncom split throttle in preparation of this sim...

 

after this, i will think of a design and parts requirements to make 2x MFD's (will order parts like buttons and USB controller boards, and implement after the release)

 

i never made missions on the DCS mission editor..

 

but i hope someone can create not only the combat missions, but just plain flight plans / routes...

 

never realized how powerful the flight model of the Su-25T on the Flaming Cliffs add on for Lock On..

 

to have an even advanced flight model for the High Fidelity Sim A-10C, is even more extra ordinary...

 

as cool as scenery is on MS Flight Simulator 2004/X, the flight model of this simulator is just plain garbage...

 

i look forward to just flying something that has an advanced flight model...and to have a weapons platform like the A-10C is a plus...

 

I CAN NOT WAIT NO MORE...I WANT TO HAVE DCS A-10C, and APACHE AH-64A !!!!!

Edited September 3, 2009 by hannibal

[joey45]

Calm down, calm down....

 

you're not the only one..;) as there are many more in the same boat.

[hannibal]

so, how are you passing the time? i guess i am just modding, flying etc.. looking for new info... getting inspired from youtube vids... etc

[vrv]

Flying the A-10A in LOMAC:FC so I can get a better understanding of the Hog. Hopefully once the A-10C comes out it won't be a complete fresh transition. I will have already been flying the Hog for a while. Sure everything will be digital...but either way.

[hannibal]

i might as well start flying that thing also... hopefully ill get the new tactile switches to refurbish my suncom split throttle then jump on the A-10A..

[leafer]

I cannot wait to test the super, duper advanced flight modeling that will be in the A-10C. Having been a flight simmer since EF2000, I never imagined I'd have so much trouble taking off and landing the Ka-50. I know heli is a different beast and most of us, myself included, never imagined we'd struggle with such basic procedures anymore. The learning curve in BS brought back memories and took me back to the early 90s when I couldn't land properly in EF2000 and US Navy Fighters. LOL :D

Edited September 3, 2009 by leafer

[Glowing_Amraam]

Ah yes, this will be one good Project allright.. ;)

[Shaman]

I have a question about the A-10 engines, since they are very hmm similar to the engines we see on airliners - do A-10 pilots experience sometime sudden engine surge?

(when hot compressed gases explode violently, from front and back, when for some reason low-speed fan can't contain them - rare occurrence - there's is no engine fire indication but loud bang and high vibration that causes airframe to vibrate too... usually engine goes back to normal operation if proper procedure is applied)

Edited September 3, 2009 by Shaman

[sobek]

I have a question about the A-10 engines, since they are very hmm similar to the engines we see on airliners - do A-10 pilots experience sometime sudden engine surge?

(when hot compressed gases explode violently, from front and back, when for some reason low-speed fan can't contain them - rare occurrence - there's is no engine fire indication but loud bang and high vibration that causes airframe to vibrate too... usually engine goes back to normal operation if proper procedure is applied)

 

I think what you mean is a compressor stall and according to the A-10A manual, this can occur when entering extreme AoA during flight.

[zakobi]

I think what you mean is a compressor stall and according to the A-10A manual, this can occur when entering extreme AoA during flight.

 

*BANG!!*

I'm hit! Ejecting, ejecting...

Pilot looks at the A-10 he was in moments ago, replying:

"Okey, i wasn't hit..." :doh:

[Shaman]

I think what you mean is a compressor stall and according to the A-10A manual, this can occur when entering extreme AoA during flight.

 

No, I don't mean stalling the engine.

 

EDIT:

this should explain what I mean

this is what I ask

- does A-10 engines surge on rare occasions like on jet airliner? (since they share common engine design)

Edited September 3, 2009 by Shaman

[TKMR]

Ah yes, this will be one good Project allright.. ;)

 

Stop teasing us! I can't take it anymore!

 

:cry:

[sobek]

No, I don't mean stalling the engine.

 

EDIT:

this should explain what I mean

this is what I ask

- does A-10 engines surge on rare occasions like on jet airliner? (since they share common engine design)

 

Well, even that video calls it a compressor stall and gives possible explanations. If the inlet guide vane actuator fails, for example, i'm sure that such a situation can occur on the a-10. Maybe it will even be possible to provoke this in the sim.

[33 309th_Hedgehog]

Dear Beta-Testers

 

am I right that you already flight the Hog?

(Because there were Black Shark videos years before the official release there should already exist a beta version).

 

How many hours did some of you spend in testing the black shark? Over the years. May be thousands? Did anyone count? (approximately)

[Feuerfalke]

Dear Beta-Testers

 

am I right that you already flight the Hog?

 

 

I'm not a Beta-Tester, but from the information available on the forums even I can tell you're wrong:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=44375&page=6

 

According to this thread and Wags' post, A-10C was in pre-alpha a week ago. I doubt it has jumped through alpha right into beta in just 10 days.

 

Give them some time. It was posted before that we will see solid information on A-10C in early 2010. If we'll get some information before that, it's probably some more thrilling screenshots as ED learned to only give information about releases, if they are rock-solid.

[sobek]

(Because there were Black Shark videos years before the official release there should already exist a beta version).

 

AFAIK this occurred because the team was sidetracked by other projects, development time of the A-10 module should (hopefully) be much shorter and therefore there's no bones to throw towards us just yet.

Edited September 4, 2009 by sobek

[jctrnacty]

AFAIK this occurred because the team was sidetracked by other projects, development time of the A-10 module should (hopefully) be much shorter and therefore there's no bones to throw towards us just yet.

 

I hope you´re right because many things ED said last month are indicating otherwise.

[Skkuda]

Could be awesome to own something like this while we waiting the A 10

 

 

What do you think?

Skkuda

[Coolhnd1]

No, I don't mean stalling the engine.

 

EDIT:

this should explain what I mean

this is what I ask

- does A-10 engines surge on rare occasions like on jet airliner? (since they share common engine design)

 

Interesting video. I love how he says at one point "...and this can cause you to spill your coffee...". At another point he says this condition can't be simulated in the simulators. I'm not sure what he means exactly by that. Maybe that the circumstances that cause this are somewhat random?

[Shaman]

At another point he says this condition can't be simulated in the simulators. I'm not sure what he means exactly by that. Maybe that the circumstances that cause this are somewhat random?

 

No, I don't think so. I understand that he is not talking about the conditions. What I understand is that he is talking about the uniqueness of airframe vibrations caused by sudden purge. These vibrations can't be reproduced (felt by pilot with his coffee) inside simulator. So now known simulator (at least at the time of video) can't shake the pit physically to reproduce the real purge on your butt and your coffee. However I'm sure you can still shake the rendered cockpit on the screen (what we are used to). Still this doesn't give you the clear feeling of the purge - which is unique in its sudden shake and you can't learn to distinguish it by feeling alone from other kind of airframe shakes while training emergencies inside simulator.

 

If you look at the work done on Ka-50 - talking about the info found on DCS main page and withing the DCS Ka-50 manual - ED tells us they have modeled airflow inside the engine package.

For the first time in flight simulation history, the engine model is based on detailed physics model of turbo-shaft engine as a system of separate components of the engine gas-dynamics system: engine inlet, compressor, combustion chamber, high-pressure turbine and power-turbine with engine exhaust.

If this is the case, we can expect at least the same level of detail on DCS A-10C engine. If Hog pilots encounter purge in RL and ED's simulated engine calculations are right we might experience it in simulator in some rare occasions at certain circumstances.

Edited September 6, 2009 by Shaman