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As much as i love this model i see some areas where it can be improved. May i suggest three changes, that would significantly improve appearance of this plane without mounting polygons number dramatically?

First is inside of engine air intakes. Maybe they could be textured similiar way as in walmis f-15?

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Other thins are in nose section.

Firstly nose tip. If You smooth it out a bit i would look much better. I know it would require increase in polys, but if you did it only to very nose tip, i would not be so heavy.

Last thing is canopy glass. I think it could be done in material section. Try canopy glas material provided in ED tools for 3DS, as on other models as gripen or mig-21 canopy glas looks better.

If you could consider making these changes in 1.1 release ( if planned), it would be fantastic.

Great mod anyway :)

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Czarnolek:

One can be too critical of a modders work. I think your intentions are well founded but Tomcatz has already said that the poly counts are low on his mods and that is what he does. I think every Mod done by 3rd parties can be touched up to some extent. It requires a lot of work to get to this stage and for Tomcatz this is what he was trying to achieve. One should not try and compare one modders work against another as they may have different ideas as to what they feel their project should reach for. Yes I agree with you but there are lots of mods that could use more Poly counts to make them look sharper but if you use these with a lot of other mods in a large mission, some people may not be able to play the mission on their present Computers. This I do believe is why some of Tomcatz's mods are of low poly. Still looks great and funcional for all. This is certainly not an attack on you or your statement but an explaination only, so please just take it as MHO on why some modders use low poly count mods. Cheers and have a great New Year's Eve.:thumbup:

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I think You misunderstood me rattler m8. I do realize its low poly, and Tomcatz made it perfectly clear why. My post above is just a suggestion, how this model appearance can be improved significantly, without mounting polycount :)

Check out this picture. It looks as real foto if not for this nose tip. In fact i think Tomcatz made a incredibly good job in achieving such a good look of model with limited count of polys. Definetlly his best model

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Happy new year for You too!

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Czarnolek:

Sorry old chap, my mistake. Yes the very end of the nose would look nice if smoother, I agree. Yes I also believe this is one of his best.Cheers, Pal.:thumbup::)

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Hi mates,

looking at the czarnyolek's screens i've seen that he charged all the CFT hardpoints with weapons.

Since i've charged the mine with the lope i was only able to charge 11 pylons , three on left wing, three on right wing, four on the CFT and the centerline (limits of the lope itself) leaving the remaining 8 cft pylons empty....

 

Can you show me how can i charge it too?

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Czarnolek:

 

Hi Pal:

 

this is one of the points you picked out. got me curious so I just did a quick cut and paste and this can be corrected very easily. Just retexture the black circle in StrikeE_NOSE_WINGS_COCKPIT, top left corner. Did not retexture in this shot but that will correct at least one thing you picked out. Hope this helps.Cheers.

 

Rattler

 

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kulbit its not done with lope, but "by hand" in meinit file. Its impossible to do using F-15 slot as in original mod.

I've done new one based on mig-29g, only using tomcatz 3d model. I did not mean to release it to public, as it have some serious bugs. It can be solved only by tomcatz himself as i don't own 3ds file.

  • 5 months later...
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Any news on the 21 Pylon positions for the F-15E, I am going to put it into LFC2 but am stuck on the extra pylons. I could do it myself but it would take forever ... and another 10 pylons to fix positions for scares me to death, or near death !!!

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FTomcatz never answered my proposition, so i figure he was busy with something else. As for myself i'm stuck with FC2 for now so i do not make any FC1 modding for now, and i think this chapter is closed for good. In FC2 i'm not using Tomcatz models as i rather go for high quality as Gys/Valery, Beczl or Tigrou models. So i wont be trying to implement F-15E to FC2 for now. I hope we will see high poly model of this bird soon and then i would be more than happy to help in any kind of development.

I'm happy to see Tomcatz trying to go for smoother models now, he is very stubborn and probably sooner than later will be making very smooth models that will make everyone happy. Especially if F-15E will be one of them ;)

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Any news on the 21 Pylon positions ...

 

There are 23 Weapon Stations :smilewink:

 

http://www.f-15e.info/joomla/en/weapons/weapons-stores/122-external-stores

 

http://www.jolly-rogers.com/airpower/f-15e/f-15e-ar.htm

 

HungaroJET works on SE pylons too.

He wrote, he just finished perfect Durandal FM for 1.2.1

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and made a working CBU-97 but the real FM, submunitions, SFWs is too complex to DCS/LOFC2. :( so he cannot modeling the 10 parachuted, rocket-boosted-spined clusters with the 40 SFW skeets till now.

 

His CBU-97s FM beta version "flies" like Rockeye but dispensing 40 parachuted! HE cumulative clusters :thumbup: but not as effective like the smart (Real Life) skeets.

We are going to test it tonight in MP.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkVZnRQ1Ao0

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If you have any questions about specifics I work with these jets daily and I can figure some things out. I may not be needed but like I said I can get the info with in a day. Just another opinion instead of staring at a bunch of pictures online.

 

 

What's the latest release on this? Is it any good?

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you cant fire any AG ordnance though. Its hardcoded.

 

Is this true? If so, why the excitement?

"You see, IronHand is my thing"

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FTomcatz never answered my proposition, so i figure he was busy with something else. As for myself i'm stuck with FC2 for now so i do not make any FC1 modding for now, and i think this chapter is closed for good. In FC2 i'm not using Tomcatz models as i rather go for high quality as Gys/Valery, Beczl or Tigrou models. So i wont be trying to implement F-15E to FC2 for now. I hope we will see high poly model of this bird soon and then i would be more than happy to help in any kind of development.

I'm happy to see Tomcatz trying to go for smoother models now, he is very stubborn and probably sooner than later will be making very smooth models that will make everyone happy. Especially if F-15E will be one of them ;)

 

He gives a lot more small detail than any other modder. His a/c might not be high poly but the little detail that is put into them IMHO makes up for the poly count. His f15E should be a must have. All his mods work nicely with no effort to install. It's not that he can't make high poly, it is his decision not to go too high. This should not be a reason to put his work aside. Like I said detail, damage models etc. make his work a must have. Community lose for not putting F15E into FC2. Hope you rethink your decision. cheers.

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He gives a lot more small detail than any other modder. His a/c might not be high poly but the little detail that is put into them IMHO makes up for the poly count. His f15E should be a must have. All his mods work nicely with no effort to install. It's not that he can't make high poly, it is his decision not to go too high. This should not be a reason to put his work aside. Like I said detail, damage models etc. make his work a must have. Community lose for not putting F15E into FC2. Hope you rethink your decision. cheers.

 

You quote my post from february mate ;)

Quite a lot changed sience then in Tomcatz approach to moddeling, in plus, in my opinion. Still i'm waiting for good quality F-15E for LO as i'm unable to do it myself. Did'nt fly for some time now and maybe F-15E would put me in "jets cockpit" again.

I do have a lot of respect fot Tomcatz efforts, especially after trying myself on 3ds :thumbup:

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Send Tom an e-mail or PM, ask if he could put F15E in FC2, he is a nice guy and I am sure if he is not tied up, he might look at doing that for you and I am sure others. Cheers.:thumbup:

 

Sorry did not notice the date, hee hee.

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Is this true? If so, why the excitement?

 

I repeat my question. If you cannot deploy the mud stores, why the excitement over this??

"You see, IronHand is my thing"

My specs:  W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB.

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I repeat my question. If you cannot deploy the mud stores, why the excitement over this??

 

Dont B upset, but V can deploy ALL.

Clusters, AMRAAMs, LGBs, (HARMs, MAVs)< oops...this for F-16 :smilewink:

The PROBLEM with FC2 is: only 12 hardpoints work with cockpit ...till now.

but the solved way:

LCT-1 > LCT-6 = one pilon

RCT-1 > RCT-6 = another pilon

 

2 (FC2 program) pilons used for 12 (real F-15E) stations

U can drop the L/R 2*6 bombs like using two Multiple Ejector Racks.

This Eyecandy is only question of 3D positioning ^

 

But don't ask the Perfect Magic ;) lets wait for the new F-15E model in DCSWH.

I hope we will see all 19/23 pylons working on the new SE model in DCSWH (1st: by AI) :doh:

Atop the midnight tarmac,

a metal beast awaits.

To be flown below the radar,

to bring the enemy his fate.

 

HAVE A BANDIT DAY !

 

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"When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist

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I repeat my question. If you cannot deploy the mud stores, why the excitement over this??

 

 

We do what we can with what we have. It's a limited environment for modders, so have a little patience. If it doesn't excite you, just move on. :thumbup:

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If it doesn't excite you, just move on. :thumbup:

 

Tried that on my wife...hasn't worked yet. :D

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