Ground/Naval Units Rate-of-Fire and Ammo Type

[EvilBivol-1]

Hi,

 

We are collecting data for units present in DCS regarding ability to select rate of fire and ammunition type belts (e.g. AP/HEI). Your help would be appreciated.

 

Thank you!

 

P.S. If possible, please provide ready data as concisely as possible. E.g.:

1) BMP-2 has 2A42 with hi-rate fire 550 rpm, lo-rate 200 rpm. and selectable belts AP\HE

Edited January 18, 2010 by EvilBivol-1

[Dash]

I've compiled this spreadsheet of most of the Russian armored vehicles' armaments, munitions, rates of fire, belt composition, and a few other parameters. I'll add to it as time permits.

 

Sources:

 

• Jane's Armour and Artillery
  
• Jane's Armour and Artillery Upgrades
  
• Jane's Ammunition Handbook
  
• Jane's Infantry Weapons
  
• Jane's Land-Based Air Defense
  

 

Update 02-03-10: Now with some western vehicles. I also filled in most of the blanks on the Russian vehicles and added a few more.

DCS.zip

Edited February 4, 2010 by Dash
Added spreadsheet.

[26-J39]

Good info on different units: http://www.enemyforces.net/artillery.htm

[MBot]

This is a pretty useful site for naval guns:

 

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/index_weapons.htm

[Dmut]

guys, we need this info in a form like this:

 

1) BMP-2 has 2A42 with hi-rate fire 550 rpm, lo-rate 200 rpm. and selectable belts AP\HE

...

[Kusch]

It would be good to update the first post and write what you need (specific units), and what now is, that it was unnecessary searching ;)

[EvilBivol-1]

The units needed are units we have in DCS and the info needed is selectable ammo type and rates of fire. Dmut made his post to request that the information be provided as directly as possible, i.e. already extracted from the sources instead of linking us to said sources. Basically, save time for us if possible.

[Kusch]

M163 Vulcan:

1000 rpm for ground target and 3000 rpm for air target. Series of 10, 30, 60 or 100 shots

 

5 PFZ-C Gepard:

550 rpm, selectable AP (2x20 round) or HE (2x330 round)

 

M-2 Bradley:

M-242 Bushmaster with hi-rate fire 200 rpm, lo-rate 100 rpm. and selectable belts AP\HE

 

Wiesel:

MK 20 Rh 202 with 1000 rpm. and selectable belts AP\HE 60 rounds on the left side and 100 rounds on the right side.

Edited January 18, 2010 by Kusch

[Dash]

I've compiled a new spreadsheet with Russian surface ships that's similar to the earlier one I made for armored vehicles.

 

Sources:

 

• Jane's Fighting Ships
  
• Jane's Naval Weapon Systems
  

DCS2.zip

[isoul]

I have an e-Book "Russia's Arms 2001-2002" which contains much info on Russian military equipment (from IFVs and artillery to aircraft and submarines and from simple sidearms to guided missiles). I 'll check for any unposted info on Rate of fire and selectable Ammo types for units that are modelled in DCS.

 

EDIT : From hundreds of vehicle and naval weapons in Russia's arsenal the only one that is stated clearly that has multi-belt feed and selectable fire rates is the 2A42 that is used on BMP-2 and Ka-50. Though there are many guns that is stated to use 2,3 or more ammo types.

Edited January 22, 2010 by isoul

[Dash]

I know this is being nit picky, but since ED is soliciting info on such details as belt composition, I figure I'd mention a few suspect things I've noticed about the ground vehicles in DCS:

 

Most ATGMs (except Malyutkas) seem to travel at a constant 645 km/h.

For some reason, the BMP-3 never uses the 2A70 for anything but firing the 9M117.

The 2S6 engages with the 9M311 while mobile, despite manufacturer claims to the contrary.

[isoul]

Dash, first thing is that I am amazed by the details you mention(the missile's velocity) but I have another thing to point-out/ask.

 

In the DCS2.xls file you attached in a previous post you mention that several guns use belts with HE and HE-T mix... Since HE-T stands for High Explosive Tracer I don't think that this counts for different ammo type since that ammo is still a HE round with a glow... which more or less has the same effect with standard HE round.

 

Another thing I want to ask you guys(EvilB included) is if ED team is interested on different ammo types used by ground/naval units in general or specifically for selectable only ammo types? I mean, as I get it at OP, the guys at ED are interested for multi-feed guns, like 2A42, which are loaded with different ammo types and the crew selects which type to fire without having to reload manually.

[Galwran]

I know this is being nit picky, but since ED is soliciting info on such details as belt composition, I figure I'd mention a few suspect things I've noticed about the ground vehicles in DCS:

 

Most ATGMs (except Malyutkas) seem to travel at a constant 645 km/h.

For some reason, the BMP-3 never uses the 2A70 for anything but firing the 9M117.

The 2S6 engages with the 9M311 while mobile, despite manufacturer claims to the contrary.

 

Not meaning to threadjack, but I have noticed that the AI constantly wastes it's ATGMs against infantry. Looks stupid and is very un-efficient.

[Avimimus]

The 2S6 engages with the 9M311 while mobile, despite manufacturer claims to the contrary.

 

The 2S6 can engage with cannon while mobile, correct? I've heard it can also use the 9M311 against ground targets in an emergency...

[Dash]

The 2S6 can engage with cannon while mobile, correct? I've heard it can also use the 9M311 against ground targets in an emergency...

 

Yes to the first part. Only the 2S6M and subsequent versions can engage with missiles while on the move.

[Silver_Dragon]

 

AK-176

Weight 16,800kg

Height 2.6 Meters

Crew 2 (4 in manual control mode)

Shell AK-726

Shell weight 12.4 kg

Caliber 76.2mm

Barrels 1

Recoil 380 to 500mm

Elevation -15° to +85°

Traverse ±175°

Rate of fire 120 rds/min

Muzzle velocity 980m/s

Effective range 10km

Maximum range 15.5km

Max. Ceiling 11.0 km

Lethal radious vs aircrafts/missiles 26 feet (8 m)

Feed system 152 ready to fire rounds / 75 ready rounds on mount

Selected Brust 30/60/120

Fire control: MR-123-02/76 Fire Control Radar System or Local control by Optical Sight, television targeting and a laser rangefinder.

Capable vs High and Low antiship missile / Air Targets.

[mark35444]

Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate - FFG

 

* 1 x Otobreda 76 mm (3inch gun) HE, Rate of fire 120 rpm Magazine capacity 85 rounds. max effective range 30,000m

 

* 6 x 12.7mm Browning Heavy Machine Gun positions, 650 rpm, Magazine capacity 200 rounds (10 sec reload w/Barrel change) API/APIT, max effective range 3 miles

 

* Mk 13 Single arm Missile Launcher - Magazine capacity 40 RIM-66/RGM 84 Harpoons

 

*2x Tripple mk 32 Torpedo launchers

 

*1 x CWIS 20mm Phalanx - 6000 RPM, AP,HE Mix

 

* MK-53 Nulka Decoy Launching System

 

* SROBC (Super Rapid Off-board Blooming Chaff Rockets)