New Computer for DCS

[schkorpio]

Hi all,

 

I'm looking to get a new pc, as mine is 3+ years old now - and basically I would like to get something that can run BlackShark at around a constant 60fps (or higher)

 

without going to crazy with water cooling or overclocking etc (budget is no too strict, but don't really want to into all that stuff, i've done it before and i usually find you don't get a lot of bang for buck) - what should I be looking at?:book:

 

Thanks in advance :)

[71st_Mastiff]

Hi all,

 

I'm looking to get a new pc, as mine is 3+ years old now - and basically I would like to get something that can run BlackShark at around a constant 60fps (or higher)

 

without going to crazy with water cooling or overclocking etc (budget is no too strict, but don't really want to into all that stuff, i've done it before and i usually find you don't get a lot of bang for buck) - what should I be looking at?:book:

 

Thanks in advance :)

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.354298

[Feuerfalke]

Did you check the hardware-forum on this board?

 

There are some very good discussions and suggestions about new PCs and hardware with different pricing.

[Burnerski]

The first thing I would buy are 3 monitors, Dell has a good deal on 23" monitors with displayport. The next is a ATI 5870. Then see how much money you have left and go from there. Triple monitors in portrait mode will blow you away.

 

Burner

[mayu22]

I would suggest to look for a good motherboard with 32nm processor compatibility so later if a new 32nm processor comes out you can just throw it in and it will work, future proofing, i7 930 are great processors they come with the new legendary D0 stepping which over clocks the CPU really well. With the Corsair H50 water cooler you can get a good over clock. For the graphic card I would suggest to wait until March's end the Nvidia new FERMI graphic cards will be out so the prices of ATI may drop. Plus then you can decide which one is better suited for you. Corsair RAM is really good for 180.00 USD you can get 6.0GB DDR3 @ 1600Mhz memory. Hopefully it helps.

[Ramstein]

New computer shopping list,, maybe soon

 

In a few months I still plan on buying a new computer.. if all goes well..

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Motherboard: Asus (maybe): $225

CPU: Intel (maybe AMD) $200

DDR3 Ram: $200

Win7: $150

Video card (would like to get as good one and not dick around..): Radeon 5850 (maybe Nvidia GTX480): $500

Power Supply: $150

Hard Drive $150 (or less)

Computer case: ($300)

Monitor( I use a LCD TV, but my regular monitor is an old CRT that has some problems with age..): $200

 

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But, it could be soon, or a few more months.. and the wife has no clue how much I am thinking about...

::smilewink: if my health doesn't kill me she will.. :doh:

[Ramstein]

how many people are spending more than $400 on a video card and do combat flight sims as a hobby?

 

Nvidia GTX480 (Fermi, not yet released) or ATI Radeon 5970 seem to both over $600 and maybe almost $800.

 

I wil have to make the big decision and those top of the line video cards sure have my attention. They should be good for 5 years..

:joystick:

[Pilotasso]

If your not an extreme FPS gamer than I advise against a top of the line GFX, rather an mid end card. Bet on a stronger CPU insteaD.

[Konovalov]

I guess one's purchase of a video card should be principally based on his or her monitor size and what resolution it is along with the type of games they play. Obviously flight sims generally are more dependent on CPU speed and pure Mhz. I have been a long time Nvidia user but ATI's Eyevinity technology really impresses me. Flight sims with 3 monitors in portrait mode would rock.

[71st_Mastiff]

how many people are spending more than $400 on a video card and do combat flight sims as a hobby?

 

Nvidia GTX480 (Fermi, not yet released) or ATI Radeon 5970 seem to both over $600 and maybe almost $800.

 

I wil have to make the big decision and those top of the line video cards sure have my attention. They should be good for 5 years..

:joystick:

 

yes the cost went up because of the class action law suite 3 years ago, so now there passing the buck to us.

[emenance]

i never got a dime out of the lawsuit even though I filed. I guess buying through the Employee purchase program wasnt enough pain to the wallet. They really did screw us, both of them.

[71st_Mastiff]

i never got a dime out of the lawsuit even though I filed. I guess buying through the Employee purchase program wasnt enough pain to the wallet. They really did screw us, both of them.

 

Yes I recieved notice's and never recieved my coupons for new Video cards from ATI or NVIDA so I think it was a bunch of BS!

[ThePlainsman]

Hi all,

 

I'm looking to get a new pc, as mine is 3+ years old now - and basically I would like to get something that can run BlackShark at around a constant 60fps (or higher)

 

without going to crazy with water cooling or overclocking etc (budget is no too strict, but don't really want to into all that stuff, i've done it before and i usually find you don't get a lot of bang for buck) - what should I be looking at?:book:

 

Thanks in advance :)

 

I bought my PC 3 months ago. I'm running FC2 at 1920 x 1280 with sliders on High for textures, scenes and everything else. I'm getting fps way over 100 with clouds everywhere. I"ll admit it surprised me. I don't have a state of the art machine. It's probably above average: i7 920 quad core @ 3.7MHz, Noctua super air cooler for i7 chips, 6 gigs of 1600MHz RAM, 750watt PSU, GTX 285, 1.5TB HD(Extreme Speed), Win 7, 64 Bit. So, a system like this might work for you. No need to go overboard. No need for water cooling, thousand watt PSUs and all that. It's a waste of money.

[Mugenjin]

I bought my PC 3 months ago. I'm running FC2 at 1920 x 1280 with sliders on High for textures, scenes and everything else. I'm getting fps way over 100 with clouds everywhere. I"ll admit it surprised me. I don't have a state of the art machine. It's probably above average: i7 920 quad core @ 3.7MHz, Noctua super air cooler for i7 chips, 6 gigs of 1600MHz RAM, 750watt PSU, GTX 285, 1.5TB HD(Extreme Speed), Win 7, 64 Bit. So, a system like this might work for you. No need to go overboard. No need for water cooling, thousand watt PSUs and all that. It's a waste of money.

I don't have a state of the art machine

That is pretty much state of the art.

 

Well except for the video card which isn't state of the art per se (no directx 11).

But it's easily within the top 5 video cards performance-wise.

[emenance]

yeah i would call that state of the art.

 

I wouldnt call a 1000 watt PSU a waste of money. Depending on the manufacture that is what you need if you want to build a PC the right way, in respect to the video card you plan on using.

http://game.amd.com/us-en/amdgame_components.aspx?cat=3

Edited March 29, 2010 by emenance

[Peyoteros]

In a few months I still plan on buying a new computer.. if all goes well..

----------------------

Motherboard: Asus (maybe): $225

CPU: Intel (maybe AMD) $200

DDR3 Ram: $200

Win7: $150

Video card (would like to get as good one and not dick around..): Radeon 5850 (maybe Nvidia GTX480): $500

Power Supply: $150

Hard Drive $150 (or less)

Computer case: ($300)

Monitor( I use a LCD TV, but my regular monitor is an old CRT that has some problems with age..): $200

 

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But, it could be soon, or a few more months.. and the wife has no clue how much I am thinking about...

::smilewink: if my health doesn't kill me she will.. :doh:

 

Second most expensive item in your list is a $300 case... I wonder what case that would be?

[Mugenjin]

1000W PSU is pretty much overboard for a single video card (HD 5850).

 

Even a 750W PSU for a HD 5850 crossfire system is more than enough to stay on the safe side. Granted that you buy brand name PSU's, not that LC Power crap.

 

That's for ATI cards though, since the new Nvidia Fermis have a really high power consumption. I wouldn't recommend the 480 anyhow, if you're not into gpgpu.

[EtherealN]

I must apologize for the pointless nature of this post I'm making.

 

i7 920 quad core @ 3.7MHz

 

That's the most awesome underclocking I've ever seen. :D

[emenance]

http://game.amd.com/us-en/amdgame_components.aspx?cat=3

[ThePlainsman]

I must apologize for the pointless nature of this post I'm making.

 

 

 

That's the most awesome underclocking I've ever seen. :D

 

Not for a 920. A 920 stock runs at 2.66GHz. For a 975 it would be. Besides, I have no idea how to overclock. The manufacturer did it at my request. The overclocking is covered by the warranty because the manufacturer did it.

 

I think my system is only a bit above average. There are much faster gaming rigs out there. But this was all I could afford.:(

[Ramstein]

Nvidia Fermi video cards

 

Nvidia Fermi video cards

now listed on www.Newegg.com

 

and a $300 case ,, well there are several brands,, I don't have a link handy right now, but basically I am tired of cheap pc cases,,I want one with good cooling and utility.. being being able to service, clean, and cool and move around.. and last,, mine are a hassle to get in and service and change parts,, maybe water cooling too..

 

:music_whistling:

Edited March 30, 2010 by Ramstein

[Pilotasso]

ATI's cards still beat the crap out of fermi's offerings, and these are hot enough to grill a whole cow.

[Konovalov]

ATI's cards still beat the crap out of fermi's offerings, and these are hot enough to grill a whole cow.

Yep. They are hot, noisy and overpriced both the 480 and 470 Fermi cards. As a long time Nvidia owner I have decided that my next card will be from ATI. :thumbup:

[Ramstein]

Yep. They are hot, noisy and overpriced both the 480 and 470 Fermi cards. As a long time Nvidia owner I have decided that my next card will be from ATI. :thumbup:

 

 

Is the grass always greener.....

?? :huh::doh:

[pyates2104]

No need to break the bank

 

I've just built a new rig for under 1000 Euros. Frame rates are up in the 40's:

I have over clocked the i5-750 to 3.8 Ghz and its holding steady at 50C with full load on all 4 cores. (with a good cooler.) I did clock at 4.2 Ghz but this was getting too hot at full load. Old GPU Nvidia 8800 GTX is being used in the new system.

 

Flight sims are CPU intensive and this is usually the bottleneck if you have a reasonable GPU, so a clocked i5 750 is the way to go.

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