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rekoal

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rekoal

rekoal

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http://lockon.ru/index.php?scr=news&news_sid=329&lang=en&end_pos=3

 

and due to what this says about having it in the cd drive at all times, i find this unfair to the people who downloaded it because we can only install it to a number of computers, but the cd version will be able to install to many computers? so how is this fair? a person could just make a back up and be able to have two pc's running the same cd!

 

so how are you going to compensate for the user who have downloaded it? give them unlimited installs? release a patch to remove star force?

 

rekoal

bflagg

bflagg

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Rekoal.

They will boost activation numbers whenever requested.

It's been posted here in the forums.

 

Thanks to ED and Naturalpoint for the CD's releases.

 

Your situation is exactly why I choose to wait. (plus starfarce will never be on my pc if I can help it.)

Thanks,

Brett

Kevlon

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"Eagle Dynamics announces the forthcoming availability of a boxed version of Flaming Cliffs, the unoficial addon to Lock On.

 

 

The product will contain 1 CD which will include:

- the Flaming Cliffs title with Starforce Professional Keyless protection. This will require the user to keep the CD in the drive, and will not require online activation.

- Quickstart manual in pdf format

- Flaming Cliffs manual in pdf format

- Four Seasons"

 

It says on the ED's homepage, It also says that you MUST have the CD in your CD-ROM to play the game becuse of Starforce. So yes you can install it on different computers, but you have to have the CD to play it.

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aceflier

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It is perfectly legal to backup your games. It is not legal to install that same game on 2 computers though. Also you would have to disable starforce one way or another and according to starforce that is also Illegal. So now to me its Illegal for starforce to say you cannot backup your original. So confusing how they get away with this really.

 

Another reason why we need a dedicated server App from ED. But I doubt that will ever happen they just want you to buy it 2 times instead.

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bflagg

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According to the info on the site the CD version still uses Starforce. Bflagg, just a different version (I assume it's that same as SH3 has but don't know for sure).

 

I know it's a different version. As Long as it doesn't install any software and/or disable or mess with any IDE ports, then I can live with the CD thing.

Even tho it violates my right as a US citizen to make backups, I can live with it -- if it JUST does a CD check.

 

I won't go into it further. I've voiced my opinion on this matter already.

 

Rekol - posting links to a crack site is not allowed... better edit it before you get DMUTED! ( by DMUT + ED -- get it? dmuted? har har! :D )

Thanks,

Brett

aceflier

aceflier

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I know it's a different version. As Long as it doesn't install any software and/or disable or mess with any IDE ports, then I can live with the CD thing.

Even tho it violates my right as a US citizen to make backups, I can live with it -- if it JUST does a CD check.

 

I won't go into it further. I've voiced my opinion on this matter already.

 

Rekol - posting links to a crack site is not allowed... better edit it before you get DMUTED! ( by DMUT + ED -- get it? dmuted? har har! :D )

 

Starforce in any form hijacks your IDE drivers. Doesnt matter if it is the cd check version or the dloaded version. There will be just as many problems with the cd check version if not more than with the dloaded version because starforce does not like certain dvd rom/cdrom drives. If you need proof goto SH3 forum technical support and read the 10 pages on the issues.

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Dmut

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Rekol - posting links to a crack site is not allowed... better edit it before you get DMUTED! ( by DMUT + ED -- get it? dmuted? har har! )

he-he ;)

bflagg, caution with names, or you'll be bfragged :D

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rekoal

rekoal

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ok sorry for the earlier post, but i rushed to buy this game, just to find out that if you got it on cd, you get unlimited installs

 

sorry again,

 

but isnt it your right to make a backup of your game? if you ligally own it?

 

rekoal

Jester_159th

Jester_159th

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Starforce in any form hijacks your IDE drivers. Doesnt matter if it is the cd check version or the dloaded version. There will be just as many problems with the cd check version if not more than with the dloaded version because starforce does not like certain dvd rom/cdrom drives. If you need proof goto SH3 forum technical support and read the 10 pages on the issues.

 

 

Yeah, I went and read those 10 pages after you mentioned it in another thread.

 

Multiple posts from quite a few of the poster, replies from UbiRazz, and a few posts from guys that haven't even bought the game. Take the mulitple posts out and you're left with approximately 72 active participants in that thread (Including Starforce, UbiRazz, Stornin and at least two three guys that just went in there to say they'd decided not to buy and it looks like a coulpe of guys who entered their CD key incorrectly and caused problems for themselves).

 

No-one is disputing that Starforce can and does cause some people problems. But the fact is that the number of people effected is far lower than you're making it out to be. I have to agree with you though, that it would be good to see the number of people being frustrated by CP issues equalling zero.

 

I just hope that those people who are effected by Starforce get their problems addressed.

Pilotasso

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http://lockon.ru/index.php?scr=news&news_sid=329&lang=en&end_pos=3

 

and due to what this says about having it in the cd drive at all times, i find this unfair to the people who downloaded it because we can only install it to a number of computers, but the cd version will be able to install to many computers? so how is this fair?

rekoal

 

LOL But those who will have a CD will also pay a premium for it budy, AND we are goin to do some considerable waiting yet. Enjoy your copy of 1.1 while we watch... ;)

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Alfa

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ok sorry for the earlier post, but i rushed to buy this game, just to find out that if you got it on cd, you get unlimited installs

 

sorry again,

 

but isnt it your right to make a backup of your game? if you ligally own it?

 

rekoal

 

I believe it is legal to make one back-up copy of a legally purchased CD(at least in some countries), but it is NOT legal to hack it to remove the copy protection.....that goes without saying.

 

- JJ.

JJ

schimmel

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Even tho it violates my right as a US citizen to make backups, I can live with it )

 

Nowhere is a law which says, that you must have the possibilty to make a copy. So no rights are violated.

 

I believe it is legal to make one back-up copy of a legally purchased CD(at least in some countries), but it is NOT legal to hack it to remove the copy protection.....that goes without saying.

 

- JJ.

 

I depends on the country you live in. In Germany it is still unclear. The case has yet to be made. In Germany it is AFAIK even unclear whether the EULA are worth a cent or not.

 

I found a nice thread about this in a german mac forum:

http://www.macuser.de/forum/showthread.php?t=30691&page=1&pp=15&highlight=nocd

 

Etienne explains this issue very well.

 

Edit:

One good example is when he compares software to a book (where the piracy issue isn't discussed half as much). If you remove the cover of a book, to make it lighter, so you can carry it around better, you are not violating any law. Same with a NoCD (he says). No EULA in a book could hinder you from removing the cover.

rekoal

rekoal

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ok i get what you are saying alfa and i dont want to sture trouble, but all the hacks do is remove the cd identification, so you can burn it to another disc for a back up, so is this illigal, because i am not sure of this matter?

 

rekoal

Pilotasso

Pilotasso

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Rekoal what you dont know is with that hack anybody can snatch the instalation executable and then apply the hacked exe without going through the activation process. Then anybody can have it. Besides The crack for Lockon for 1.1 could take months, the pirates have bigger fish to fry namely FPS games and more FPS games...I hate them, Im tired of just seeing them alined to launch 1 after the other :D

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Alfa

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ok i get what you are saying alfa and i dont want to sture trouble, but all the hacks do is remove the cd identification, so you can burn it to another disc for a back up, so is this illigal, because i am not sure of this matter?

 

rekoal

 

Yes rekoal - it is illegal.

 

If the CD comes with a protection system to prevent you from making a back-up copy, then it is obviously illegal to remove it.

 

- JJ.

JJ

Caretaker

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It is. For some time now the removal of such copy protection systems is forbidden in various European countries (not sure if it's actually an EU law, or how the situation is in the US - but I think those regulations were actually tailored after some US laws). This results in the somewhat paradox situation that having backup copies is perfectly legal, but producing them may not.

 

Deactivating the installation limit also means effectively removing the copy protection from the download version. No matter what you think of the whole Starforce issue or copy protection in general: the reasoning behind the activation system of the download version has not been changed by the release of an English CD version.

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rekoal

rekoal

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ok i got you know, and sorry for mentioning it in the first place, because i was under the influence that it was legal. and i hope that this wont hurt my reputation the the forums.

 

sorry

 

rekoal

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