RWR airborne symbol for Su-27?

[Ven]

Just realized. I assumed that RWR airborne threat symbol for Mig-29 is "29" and Su-27 is "27". And it's also what the manual stated on page 217. Was just flying the F15C campaign and Flankers kept appearing as "29". There was no Fulcrum in the sky. This threw me off quite a bit as I thought I was engaging Fulcrum but they were actually Flankers. Come to think of it, I engaged quite a bit of Su-27's but never recall seeing "27" on the RWR. I'm not sure if its mistake in the manual or a bug.

Edited April 13, 2010 by Ven

[104th_Crunch]

Since both the MiG and Su radars are very similar, the TEWS sees them bith as 29. Not a bug.

[EtherealN]

Besides, it keeps us newbord Eagle drivers guessing about whether that launch we just got was an R-27 or R-77. :D

[graywo1fg]

if they suddenly turn away after they had locked you, its probably a R-77 :P

[Ven]

Do they ever show up as 27?

[Renato71]

Do they ever show up as 27?

 

No, because of:

Since both the MiG and Su radars are very similar, the TEWS sees them bith as 29. Not a bug.

[Ven]

Then it is an error in the manual?

[104th_Crunch]

Must be error in manual. FC 1.0 I believe showed them separate and it was changed in a patch, so the manual might be incorrect.

[graywo1fg]

right then you'll see the M symbol on the TEWS once it goes active :)

[S77th-konkussion]

yeah I think only 1.0 had separate 27 / 29 symbology. Same slotback radar- different size antenna. Fixed in 1.01 patch, IIRC

[Dudikoff]

yeah I think only 1.0 had separate 27 / 29 symbology. Same slotback radar- different size antenna. Fixed in 1.01 patch, IIRC

 

This also probably means that the Su-27 radar has a more powerful signal which should make the TEWS report it closer than it actually is compared to a MiG-29. Is it working like that perhaps or the TEWS code uses the actual distance?

[GGTharos]

It works like this, but TEWS should probably use the actual distance.

[Robin_Hood]

I'm curious, how would it know the actual distance ?

[Dudikoff]

I'm curious, how would it know the actual distance ?

 

I meant if the source code for the TEWS is using the actual distance between the two planes in the game (and thus cheating). I'm not exactly sure what GG meant.

[Robin_Hood]

That's what I meant. The SPO, at least, gives you only a signal strength, from which the distance can be deduced only knowing the radar type. I would guess that US RWRs would work the same way at best.

[GGTharos]

I don't know how. I do know it does; it is actually part of the data of the signal. It isn't labeled signal strength, it is labeled range data.

 

I'm curious, how would it know the actual distance ?

[Pilotasso]

Besides, it keeps us newbord Eagle drivers guessing about whether that launch we just got was an R-27 or R-77. :D

 

hmmm, not strictly true..

 

Most times You can guess wich plane it is if you can see the bandit on radar and hes scanning as well. Judging by his distance and direction and emission strength you can determine if it is a mig or a SU from a long distance.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Pilotasso

[EtherealN]

Well, I did say newborn Eagle drivers, like me. :P

But thanks. :)

[Steve Davies]

I don't know how. I do know it does; it is actually part of the data of the signal. It isn't labeled signal strength, it is labeled range data.

 

It uses signal triangulation.

[GGTharos]

Aha! Thanks :)

[Steve Davies]

Very welcome :)

[SFJackBauer]

Besides, it keeps us newbord Eagle drivers guessing about whether that launch we just got was an R-27 or R-77. :D

 

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