Laud Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 May I ask why the A-10 (the "A" in LO as well as the "C") doesn't support the Mk83 bombs? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
Scabbers Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 May I ask why the A-10 (the "A" in LO as well as the "C") doesn't support the Mk83 bombs? Because the USAF does not use the MK-83. The navy does. USAF uses the MK-82 and MK-84 Now where is that speed brakes control again? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Steve Davies Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 With the exception of the GBU-32 for the F-22, the US Air Force does not use the Mk.83 LDGP series. Steve Davies https://www.10percenttrue.com
Laud Posted September 8, 2010 Author Posted September 8, 2010 Oh, never knew... Thanks guys! Don't they (USAF) ever feel like I do, when a 82 seems too small while a 84 would be a bit too much? :music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
Speed Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 Oh, never knew... Thanks guys! Don't they (USAF) ever feel like I do, when a 82 seems too small while a 84 would be a bit too much? :music_whistling: Apparently not, in fact, it seems they think the Mk-82 is too big alot of the time, example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_diameter_bomb Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
CAT_101st Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 thanks for that little bit of info. I was wondering that as well. Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/
Laud Posted September 9, 2010 Author Posted September 9, 2010 Ok, when you got penetration-techniques that makes things happen... But to destroy tanks or thick concrete with a simple iron bomb a 82 is sometimes a bit too weak. However, thanks for that input! :thumbup: Apparently not, in fact, it seems they think the Mk-82 is too big alot of the time, example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_diameter_bomb [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
jalebru Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 If you can't take out a t-80 with a single mk-82, might want to resync your mk-1 eyeball so your aim is better. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Feuerfalke Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 I think this a view from the players point of view. With a realistic perspective, based on statistics and hit-ratios, it's unlikely to engage tanks with Mk-82: If there is a single tank, it's most likely destroyed by a Maverick, if there is a group of tanks, a CBU will do the job. IMHO the advantage of the Mk-82 is the ability to carry a higher number and cover a larger area, whereas the Mk-84 is a good for a bigger punch. And besides that, the USAF doesn't have a major problem the NAVY always have to consider: Take-Off-Weight. So when the NAVY goes for a Mk-83 to reduce weight for a carrier-start, the USAF just choose a longer runway. ;) MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
TeeJay82 Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 If you can't take out a t-80 with a single mk-82, might want to resync your mk-1 eyeball so your aim is better. who needs bombs when you got the avenger aboard:D
mvsgas Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 If you can't take out a t-80 with a single mk-82, might want to resync your mk-1 eyeball so your aim is better. Do you mean RL or in the game? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Laud Posted September 9, 2010 Author Posted September 9, 2010 If you can't take out a t-80 with a single mk-82, might want to resync your mk-1 eyeball so your aim is better. Can you from a 12.000ft hard-deck in a windy environment??? :huh: :music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
MBot Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 And besides that, the USAF doesn't have a major problem the NAVY always have to consider: Take-Off-Weight. So when the NAVY goes for a Mk-83 to reduce weight for a carrier-start, the USAF just choose a longer runway. ;) I think the effect of spreading explosive power over a wider area is an important factor for the Mk-83. I have seen pics of Hornets carrying two Mk-83 on a dual-rack instead of a single Mk-84. No Idea why air force doesn't at least has the option for the Mk-83. The 1000 lb class of bombs also seems to be popular with the Brits.
Speed Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) who needs bombs when you got the avenger aboard:D When you don't want to die maybe? I'm predicting scores of people who won't figure out that it is unwise to recklessly use their GAU-8 until they get shot down the 1000th time, if they ever figure it out at all. Edited September 9, 2010 by Speed Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
Speed Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) If you can't take out a t-80 with a single mk-82, might want to resync your mk-1 eyeball so your aim is better. No, I'll just plink them from 20k feet with GBU-12s while you are being tortured in the prison camp because you descended to 3k feet to drop Mk-82s CCIP and got shot down by a guy holding a slingshot. Edited September 9, 2010 by Speed Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
Speed Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 I think the effect of spreading explosive power over a wider area is an important factor for the Mk-83. I have seen pics of Hornets carrying two Mk-83 on a dual-rack instead of a single Mk-84. No Idea why air force doesn't at least has the option for the Mk-83. The 1000 lb class of bombs also seems to be popular with the Brits. Russians too Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
Laud Posted September 9, 2010 Author Posted September 9, 2010 Russians too Damn, where did they get the MK83s from??? :huh: :lol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
Speed Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Damn, where did they get the MK83s from??? :huh: :lol: Hmm.. FAB-250, FAB-500, FAB-1000.... oh gee, I wonder what number after "FAB-" stands for? Oh yea, maybe it's the approximate weight of the bomb in kilograms! What a novel concept! So guess what 500 kilograms is roughly equivalent to? :huh: :lol: Seriously though, while both FAB-500s and Mk-83s are in the "1000 lb bomb" class, what is the comparison between them? What percentage of bomb weight in the FAB-500 is explosive compared to the Mk-83? I can't find any good online sources for this information. Edited September 9, 2010 by Speed Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
Kuky Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Damn, where did they get the MK83s from??? :huh: :lol: Yeah, he was referring to "...The 1000 lb class of bombs..." :smilewink: No longer active in DCS...
Frederf Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 "The Mk 83 is a streamlined steel casing containing 445 lb (202 kg) of Tritonal high explosive." --Wiki Don't know what the FAB-500 is but it's probably a different chemical compound so it's apples and oranges.
Laud Posted September 10, 2010 Author Posted September 10, 2010 Yeah, he was referring to "...The 1000 lb class of bombs..." :smilewink: I know! I was just joking... That's why i put this -> :lol: guy behind. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
Speed Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 I know! I was just joking... That's why i put this -> :lol: guy behind. Sorry then. It seemed to me at the time that you were ridiculing me and laughing at me, and it was offensive, though somewhat amusing because you were so clearly wrong. Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc.
Kuky Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Sorry then. It seemed to me at the time that you were ridiculing me and laughing at me, and it was offensive, though somewhat amusing because you were so clearly wrong. That's what I thought also No longer active in DCS...
Laud Posted September 10, 2010 Author Posted September 10, 2010 Oooops, sorry... Thought it was clear... 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
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