TGP Focus

[coolts]

Actually I was content with how it was, I thought that the zoom was just digital after you use that first optical zoom, and if so that would explain the blur as digital zoom sacrifices resolution.

 

Smear some vaseline over your monitor then and you can stay with fuzzy-vision whilst we move on to more accurate bombing runs :)

[Sticky]

TGP video has been sharpened for the next beta version.

 

Is the change done to make it correspond more with the real Litening pod, or just to make it easier for us?

[GunnDawg]

This is interesting. I just switched from XP 32bit to Win7 64bit and in my XP install I never had this issue, now that I am on Win7 64bit I suddenly have the same problem as the OP...very strange.

 

The testing was done on the same quick mission and on the same target. Within 2 or 3 miles during the day time with no weather conditions it was just as fuzzy as the OP's picture, however on my xp 32bit install it doesnt do that.

[PhiXX]

Is the change done to make it correspond more with the real Litening pod, or just to make it easier for us?

This is DCS :thumbup: No further answer needed!

 

 

Out hot :pilotfly:

[polygonpusher]

two.

[Sticky]

I know what DCS is, what it aims to be, trust me I have been following EDs sims since Flanker 2 ;) but I also recall reading here somewhere that the way it is modelled now in the beta is already realistic. That is why I was surprised by Matts post, and it made me wonder. But perhaps I remembered it wrong.

Edited October 19, 2010 by Sticky

[Yellonet]

Smear some vaseline over your monitor then and you can stay with fuzzy-vision whilst we move on to more accurate bombing runs :)

As long as it's realistic and accurate simulates the real deal I'm happy.

I just thought that how it is was as it should.

[Sticky]

As long as it's realistic and accurate simulates the real deal I'm happy.

I just thought that how it is was as it should.

 

Yes I thought so too, but it looks like we were wrong.. since they are changing it.

[Yellonet]

Is the change done to make it correspond more with the real Litening pod, or just to make it easier for us?

I want to know too... I would have thought the current version was pretty accurately modeled.

[Yellonet]

Yes I thought so too, but it looks like we were wrong.. since they are changing it.

Yes. Perhaps. Maybe.... :suspect:

[polygonpusher]

Windows XP users reported a crisp picture, however on Windows 7 it's blurry.

[sobek]

Yes I thought so too, but it looks like we were wrong.. since they are changing it.

 

Accurately modelled, yes, that doesn't mean that none of the models parameters need tweaking any more.

[Avatar72]

I'm not sure if this is still a topic of discussion anywhere else but as of Beta 3, I'm still getting the occasional out of focus TGP. This is when in normal camera mode....not FLIR.

Do I need to record this or take a screenshot or has it been determined that this is the accepted behavior?

[jazjar]

I think the FLIR still needs sharpening for Beta 4, just my input.

[Mobius1_MWI]

Make sure you change the pod FOV with china hat forward. I had the same issue, especially with the IR images are longer range, now that I've figured out to change the FOV the images became much sharper.

[Frederf]

FOV shouldn't change the FLIR resolution, should it? There's only one FLIR sensor unlike the CCDs which have one for each FOV. It's not like there are any moving lenses for IR happening in the LITENING II, right?

 

Also, ED decided to model the II and not the AT which means 256x256 FLIR and not 640x512 FLIR. The CCDs are probably much higher resolution than the FLIR in any given model.

[Kuky]

I wanna know how to get rid of these anoying lines on the TGP... the more you zoom in the more they become visible and... anoying (don't look at the red circle... I am just using same image from original post as lines on the PMF are clearly visible)

 

[shawnyp420]

Beta 3 has a problem with the "tuned fog" feature. Even at short range the targets appear blurry and show lines on the screen. I've rolled back to Beta 2 until the fog thing is fixed.

[Yellonet]

I think we have a pretty accurate representation as it is now.

 

[Kuky]

I think we have a pretty accurate representation as it is now.

 

 

I don't see any horizontal lines... do you?

[Buehgler]

I wanna know how to get rid of these anoying lines on the TGP... the more you zoom in the more they become visible and... anoying (don't look at the red circle... I am just using same image from original post as lines on the PMF are clearly visible)

It looks to me like you are using the digital zoom feature but leaving the TGP on the wide FOV setting. If you use china-hat forward short to switch to the narrow FOV you will get a much clearer view. Switching the FOV via the china-hat actually switches the optics to higher magnification so that the sensor will have more pixels on the target. The digital zoom you get from using DMS up just zooms the pixels you have -- those "horizontal lines" are actually the borders between the pixels in the sensor.

[Kuky]

It looks to me like you are using the digital zoom feature but leaving the TGP on the wide FOV setting.

 

Nope... those lines are there with Wide and Narrow FoV. Those lines were present in FC2 with Su-25T and also and DCS BS, I found that texture Interlieve.tga was the cause and I edited it with clear texture and lines were gone but I can't find such file in DCS A-10C... there are few Interlieve-2.bmp files but they are not "it".

Edited November 28, 2010 by Kuky

[Yellonet]

I don't see any horizontal lines... do you?

No, but then again it isn't zoomed in as much as when you get "lines".

 

See here for horizontal lines (warning disturbing imagery)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmoghK44jdI

 

BTW, your tone is somewhat unfriendly, had a bad day?

[Yellonet]

It looks to me like you are using the digital zoom feature but leaving the TGP on the wide FOV setting. If you use china-hat forward short to switch to the narrow FOV you will get a much clearer view. Switching the FOV via the china-hat actually switches the optics to higher magnification so that the sensor will have more pixels on the target. The digital zoom you get from using DMS up just zooms the pixels you have -- those "horizontal lines" are actually the borders between the pixels in the sensor.

Exactly.

[jazjar]

I don't think narrow or wide FOV makes a difference. narrow improves the pixels a tiny bit, but not by much. I also think targets like T-72s are impossible to distinguish from the earth. I've tried using contrast but it doesn't actually help me see the targets, only make the display b righter or darker. Same deal with the CCD. it has just fine res., however it is vey tough to distinguish targets from their surroundings unless you are at very close range. If this is going to be the final res in the release, then I'll use a SADL/Maverick combination to detect targets and I'll fly without LGBs and the Litening, it unbalances my aircraft in the first place.