NVIDIA GTX 580 Released

[audiohavoc]

Newegg has GTX 580's available for purchase for just over $500 with their 10% discount code. I just ordered one to replace my GTX 480.

[topdog]

Hopefully you won't mind coming back when it arrives and telling us how it is for you (what software it makes no difference in, what software it completely reinvigorates for you).

 

I'm still running my aged GTX8800 partly because of the mess of releases where we've had how many model numbers released this year alone from one vendor, combined with not even be able to tell if higher number = higher performing card with any level of consistency either.

 

In all likelihood this will just drive me away from upgrading to any 'new' 'premium' purchase and I'll settle for a $200 GTX 460 instead. Or was it a GTX 465.. I lost track (honestly, I'm not making fun of the matter).

[Fopeyducker]

Yeah good card, worthy replacement for my GTX285, though I'll be waiting for the 3rd party versions with tweaked cooling/OC'ing. No reference cards for me thank you very much ;)

[ACUTech]

I'll be waiting a bit too, my 480 still pwnz anyways :music_whistling:

[Konovalov]

Won't be spending that much on a graphics card but it is good news as we saw with the major price cuts to the GTX460 series.

[Fopeyducker]

I'll be waiting a bit too, my 480 still pwnz anyways :music_whistling:

 

lol well you not exactly short of GPU horse power :)

 

Probably only worth up grading if like me your still using a 200 series card. Even those that have 460 can save money by getting a second 460 and going sli which will give almost the same performance at a fraction of the price.

[Konovalov]

Probably only worth up grading if like me your still using a 200 series card.

Yeah. I've just built a new system based around the x58 and i7-950. Still using my GTX260 but looking to upgrade prior to the VAT rise in the new year. It's definately a buyers market right now with plenty of great cards to choose from and at decent prises. And AMD should have it's response to the new Nvidia 580 card later this year. Happy days. :)

[egorter]

can i have your 480?

[Succellus]

Nor the 480 or the 580 are a good call. The 480 to much power hungry. The 580 not yet mature. Won t make much diff for DCS anyway.

[ACUTech]

lol well you not exactly short of GPU horse power :)

 

Probably only worth up grading if like me your still using a 200 series card. Even those that have 460 can save money by getting a second 460 and going sli which will give almost the same performance at a fraction of the price.

 

My 2nd pc is still running a GTX285 :music_whistling:

 

You see, the fun part in having two pc's is when I upgrade the 1st one, I upgrade the other at the same time for 0$ :D

[joey45]

^^ it's called "hand me downs"

[LawnDart]

Sinking $500+ into a new GPU... not me. I can get two 460 GTX's in SLI cheaper than one GTX 580, and I'd almost put money on the SLI setup benchmarking better than the single 580. The FTW edition of the 460 has comparable clockspeed with the 580... just not as many pipes.

[shadowze]

OP

Please reply back with some benchmarks with your New shiney card :)

Oh and for comparison can you post what you system benches at now with

your current card so we can see how much things have improved

 

Thanks in advance

[TeeJay82]

gtx 580 ordered :D now all i gotta do before i can use it is wait for an AC cooler to be released.. all stock fans are crap imo^^

[Fopeyducker]

Sinking $500+ into a new GPU... not me. I can get two 460 GTX's in SLI cheaper than one GTX 580, and I'd almost put money on the SLI setup benchmarking better than the single 580. The FTW edition of the 460 has comparable clockspeed with the 580... just not as many pipes.

 

Sli 460's will come close and sometimes just beat the GTX580 in various bench marks. You'd need sli 470's to beat it right across the board. If I had a 460 or 470 already then going sli over GTX580 is a no brainer. If you don't have one of these already then GTX580 all the way. No risk of micro stutters, uses less power, quieter and the option further down the line to stick another one in the case if something comes along that needs the boost. No way would I go sli straight off. Imo sli is for "emergency" use only. Always get the best single chip GPU you can afford and only double up if you really have to.

[Succellus]

Sli 460's will come close and sometimes just beat the GTX580 in various bench marks. You'd need sli 470's to beat it right across the board. If I had a 460 or 470 already then going sli over GTX580 is a no brainer. If you don't have one of these already then GTX580 all the way. No risk of micro stutters, uses less power, quieter and the option further down the line to stick another one in the case if something comes along that needs the boost. No way would I go sli straight off. Imo sli is for "emergency" use only. Always get the best single chip GPU you can afford and only double up if you really have to.

 

On the single card matter i agree.

But shelling money for a non mature hardware is always a bad idea. In 2 month max you ll hav more mature card with much more features for less.

And the 580 is merely evolutionary not revolutionary so no need to rush, it keep par with the 59XX no more than that.

 

Micro stutters come more from HD/RAM?FSB than GPU.

[Fopeyducker]

On the single card matter i agree.

But shelling money for a non mature hardware is always a bad idea. In 2 month max you ll hav more mature card with much more features for less.

And the 580 is merely evolutionary not revolutionary so no need to rush, it keep par with the 59XX no more than that.

 

Micro stutters come more from HD/RAM?FSB than GPU.

 

Yeah I am waiting though I am starting to pull my hair out looking at all the cards overclockers has in stock and the money is burning a hole in my pocket. lol

 

I don't think the GTX580 was ever meant to be "revolutionary" just a sensible step up. Lower power, quieter with a decent enough performance increase. I do find it strange that people, (talking about those on various forums I've see the past 24hrs) with modern high end cards automatically slate every new card that comes out because it doesn't offer a 100% performance increase over a card they probably bought a year or less earlier.

 

Why would those with GTX480's, 5870's or 5970's be considering an upgarde already? It's like taking the family car you bought last year, (40miles to the gallon, 120mph), to the show room and then kicking the snot out of the salesman because this years model doesn't get 80 miles to the gallon and do 240mph? :doh:

 

I think peoples expectations of new hardware is, well...

 

That said, for those of use still using 200 series cards the GTX580 most certainly IS "revolutionary" and does offer 50-100% performance increase :)

[Konovalov]

And the 580 is merely evolutionary not revolutionary so no need to rush, it keep par with the 59XX no more than that.

 

Micro stutters come more from HD/RAM?FSB than GPU.

Fully agree. On the micro stutters a couple here have said that by using an SSD they have got rid of micro stutters.

[Silent Warrior]

... An' here's me running a 9600GT and thinking about upgrading to a Radeon 5770. :music_whistling: Off to examine this new fancy gadget, then.

[Succellus]

Don t do that its not worth. Wait a little and get a good 460 if your on budget, prices will fall.

[shadowze]

Well it has been a few days , has anyone got a GTX580 yet ?

 

And if so how doesit compare with their olde card ?

[coolts]

Im looking at one of these to replace my GTX285 which is getting on a bit. My usual rule is to sell and replace every year, that way about £100 premium does it.

 

This time, i'm looking at selling my 2 year old card for £120 and having to pony up the remaining £250 to upgrade. So, i lose about £125 card value a year assuming i want to stay cutting edge. Thats not bad in my view as i use the PC every day.

 

Might wait for the new Radeons though. If they are the same in performance bracket, then price, noise and heat will sway me.

 

And DCS performance!

Edited November 15, 2010 by coolts

[*Rage*]

Id be interested to know if DCS Warthog is more GPU intensive than LOFC or BS.

 

I have a 3.6GHz C2D with a GTC 260 (216) and even at 2560x1600 im CPU bottlenecked in LOFC/BS. If WH can shift some of the load onto the GPU then I might consider upgrading to a 580.

[coolts]

my overclocked i930 @ 4.1ghz never goes above 60% 2 x core usage and i see average 30fps on my GTX285

 

that is GPU bottleneck right there.

 

If you have 100% CPU then you have a CPU bottleneck, otherwise GPU. its as simple as that.

 

(assuming its not a disk I/O bottleneck ;), but i have SSD + RAID 1 so its not disk)

[*Rage*]

my overclocked i930 @ 4.1ghz never goes above 60% 2 x core usage and i see average 30fps on my GTX285

 

that is GPU bottleneck right there.

 

If you have 100% CPU then you have a CPU bottleneck, otherwise GPU. its as simple as that.

 

(assuming its not a disk I/O bottleneck ;), but i have SSD + RAID 1 so its not disk)

 

Thats interesting because FC/BS CPU usage was always close to 100% on at least one core. I dont have the beta but are the graphics that much improved?

 

Is there any way you can check GPU % load?

 

Thanks