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Heading on target, I release my GBU and hold my path so as not to break the laser lock and..........BOOM. "what hit me? I was clear in, no threats left, check the debriefing..."

 

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bollocks :doh:

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:megalol::megalol:

What was your flightpath/g like?

I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!"

 

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thisisentchris87

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I managed to hit myself with my own AIM-9. Still have no idea how it happened.

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I managed to hit myself with my own AIM-9. Still have no idea how it happened.

 

:huh::huh:

I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!"

 

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coolts

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I wasn't in a dive or anything. No more than -5 (but I wouldn't swear on that). I just re-ran the scenario and made damn sure i was level and my bomb hit spot on, (the ground).

 

I have the track file of the original incident which i will look at tomorrow. Going to hook tacview up. I've heard it can be persuaded to work with the beta. Pity it cant open trk files.

 

ps. GBU-10 is my current favourite way to inflict mayhem, (apart from when i am practicing for the aviation darwin awards :music_whistling:)

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You forgot to do a proper walkaround. You would have spotted the chalk with your name on the side of the GBU.

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Succellus

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I managed to hit myself with my own AIM-9. Still have no idea how it happened.

 

That must be a Modern combat flight sim world record. :lol:

 

Maybe mal function ?

Should be interesting to see the TRK, but i suppose you don t have it.

 

Now that i m thinking of it, i remember that in one sim, i was about to bomb a site and was hit by a flak or some shots and my bombs exploded before release, Would that happen in DCs A10 ?

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Well, convinced I had been a dunmbas, I dutifully reviewed the .TRK and apart from a few mistakes, (leaving my lights on, second mav attack too close to SAM site), I was doing okay. The PIBL got a bit squirrelly as I got near release but the action takes place at 57:08 as I release GBU-10 bomb with +1 pitch.

 

At this point the enemies remaining forces consist of 2 x BTR-80's and 2 x T-55's, none of which seem a threat.

 

The bomb separates and falls away.

Two seconds later I have 0 pitch.

One second later I am a fireball!

I looks like the falling bomb exploded and took me out in the blast. Either that or I spontaneously combusted.

 

Please have a look guys and see if you can spot what I did wrong, (apart from what I mentioned).

 

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Second fly through was carbon copy and worked fine.

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Pitch at release does not matter. You can release a bomb inverted if you maintain >1G during and after the release without being hit. If you say you released at positive pitch and a second later you had zero pitch, you pulled neg G and intersected the bomb flight path.

 

I haven't reviewed your track but from you description this sounds like the most obvious course of events.

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Pitch at release does not matter. You can release a bomb inverted if you maintain >1G during and after the release without being hit. If you say you released at positive pitch and a second later you had zero pitch, you pulled neg G and intersected the bomb flight path.

 

I haven't reviewed your track but from you description this sounds like the most obvious course of events.

 

 

I hear you, but the bomb was way below me when the explosion took it and me out. Not a bomb collision that i could see.

 

My pitch change was slow, not violent at all.

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Coolts, had a look through your track and could not find a reason why...

I took some pics.. Last pic is WTF? :noexpression:

 

You have restored some of my shaky faith in my own sanity.

IRL I would now be in the military stockade on charges of "forcibly inserting explosive suppositry into crew-chief"

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Your bomb hit a bird ? I suppose it must have hit something to explode...

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Relax.. ur sanity should be intact.. hehe "Should"

lol

 

On Top.. i can't see that u've done anything wrong (IMO)... GBU was in the air and well clear of you, for some reason ur wings dropped... lol

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My guessing is that some 12mm from the tanks hit the bomb as it come off your plane and caused premature detonation...if you switch to the tank view and listen real close you can hear them laughing their socks off :D

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In the track can someone see a mud mover firing in his direction ?

Could it be a fuse failure ?

A barometric fuse set to detonate at X altitude ?

A time fuse improperly set ?

Have to be a big bird to detonate a bomb ? Your wingman ?:smilewink:

Did you piss of the armament crew for some reason ?:P

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My guessing is that some 12mm from the tanks hit the bomb as it come off your plane and caused premature detonation...if you switch to the tank view and listen real close you can hear them laughing their socks off :D

 

Was a civilian sniper with a dragunov taking potshots at him...instead hit the bomb.

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coolts

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In the track can someone see a mud mover firing in his direction ?

Could it be a fuse failure ?

A barometric fuse set to detonate at X altitude ?

A time fuse improperly set ?

Have to be a big bird to detonate a bomb ? Your wingman ?:smilewink:

Did you piss of the armament crew for some reason ?:P

 

Are catastrophic fuse failures modelled? That would be cool and kinda scary?

 

Wingman was told to STAY PUT around the IP whilst i took out all the anti-air defences.

 

It was my mission, (i can post that), so there were no hidden enemies.

 

This is a very weird one. Oh well, WIP i guess.

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In my case it was clear what it was :D

 

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That was so awesome that my awesome-o-meter just broke!

 

There is something to be said for barrelling through the pearly gates of heaven/hell in a gigantic fireball. (to the sound of loud guitar riffs)

 

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I'll bring this to the attention of the devs - you may have hit an invisible ground protrusion/spike.

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I'll bring this to the attention of the devs - you may have hit an invisible ground protrusion/spike.

 

Cheers. To be honest I think i hit one of those after I left the pub last friday night. But i was protected in that instance by my beer-armour. :lol:

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