apoll Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Hi. I have been following this simulation with great interest. At this stage, I have been holding off buying, as they are releasing beta versions. I want to wait until a full release is offered. BUT...I have a suspicion this strategy, normally a good one, may not be applicable here. I'm after a steer here: is the beta to all intent and purposes, a full, largely bug free simulation? Am I right to wait for the full release? What do you think? Grateful views. regards, apoll
mtuckner Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Beta 4 is very good in my opinion and is worth the purchase. By the time you get up to speed on learning the basics of the operation and ready to dive into the campaigns or full missions the game will probably be a release candidate.
joey45 Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Bear in mind you are pre-purching the ga.....sim. The beta is only a bonus. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
BTTW-DratsaB Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Hi. I have been following this simulation with great interest. At this stage, I have been holding off buying, as they are releasing beta versions. I want to wait until a full release is offered. BUT...I have a suspicion this strategy, normally a good one, may not be applicable here. I'm after a steer here: is the beta to all intent and purposes, a full, largely bug free simulation? Am I right to wait for the full release? What do you think? Grateful views. regards, apoll There are enough bugs to be frustrating if you intend to try to play it as a retail/fully functional game. But if your happy just learning and putting up with crashes to desktop and possible errors introduced by newer beta versions, I advise to hold off. However, learning this Sim takes along time so it may be worth getting it just for that. As long as you can be patient and able to live with unexpected bugs, go for it. The ultimate question is , If a bug crept into the Betas that meant you couldn't play it for a month would that annoy you? For me I could live with it, so I jumped in. Specs: GA-Z87X-UD3H, i7-4770k, 16GB, RTX2060, SB AE-5, 750watt Corsair PSU, X52, Track IR4, Win10x64. Sim Settings: Textures: ? | Scenes: ? |Water: ? | Visibility Range: ? | Heat Blur: ? | Shadows: ? | Res: 1680x1050 | Aspect: 16:10 | Monitors: 1 Screen | MSAA: ? | Tree Visibility: ? | Vsync: On | Mirrors: ? | Civ Traffic: High | Res Of Cockpit Disp: 512 | Clutter: ? | Fullscreen: On
joey45 Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 ^^ Same here. ^^ The ultimate question is , If a bug crept into the Betas that meant you couldn't play it for a month would that annoy you? For me I could live with it, so I jumped in. There's always DCSBS.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
pumafoot Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Flight Sticks I am thinking of purchasing the A10-C Beta and need to know what flight sticks can be used? :music_whistling:
joey45 Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 What have you got at the moment? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Dethmagnetic Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Beta 4 (and a graphics drivers update) fixed almost all of the CTDs I was getting. The game is stable and a ton of fun to play, especially now that I can reliably run combat missions without crashing. There are still a few rough edges (ATC and radio comm is still a work in progress, for one) but it's close enough to "finished" that I wouldn't have any qualms about buying. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My rig: i7 3770K oc'd to 4.7 GHz | Asus Maximus 5 Extreme mobo | 4 x 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Elite DDR3 | 2 x EVGA GTX 680 in SLI | Asus Xonar Phoebus audio card | OCZ Vertex 4 512 GB SSD My peripherals: Dell U3011 30" at 2560x1600 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G13 | Sennheiser HD 558 | Razer Black Widow | Razer Imperator
Dethmagnetic Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 I am thinking of purchasing the A10-C Beta and need to know what flight sticks can be used? :music_whistling: You can use pretty much any joystick - obviously there are really nice ones out like the TM Warthog and the X-52/X-65/G940, but a $10 Saitek will work perfectly as long as you don't mind using the keyboard for most of the HOTAS functions. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My rig: i7 3770K oc'd to 4.7 GHz | Asus Maximus 5 Extreme mobo | 4 x 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Elite DDR3 | 2 x EVGA GTX 680 in SLI | Asus Xonar Phoebus audio card | OCZ Vertex 4 512 GB SSD My peripherals: Dell U3011 30" at 2560x1600 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G13 | Sennheiser HD 558 | Razer Black Widow | Razer Imperator
El_Roto Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Be warned! This sim is the road to ruin. Look at all of the accessories in my sig; except for the TrackIR, I've bought everything in the last few months especially for A-10C. It's a time sink, too. I don't fly anything else now (except for an occasional hop in IL-2) and I couldn't care less. The training missions are a blast, landings feel like a real achievement, and the THUNK THUNK of AAA hitting the a/c makes you jump out of your seat. Yes, there are holes right now but I can see past them (I'm the patient type). If you're the same way, get the the beta. If you need a finished project to stay sane, wait a little while. Remember: save some money so you can kit this puppy out! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 257th Fighting Falcons/First VFW-25th Virtual Fighter Squadron Specs: Win7 HP 64 bit, i7-960 @ 3.2GHz, 12GB DDR3 RAM @ 1333MHz, Intel-based Alienware mobo, 256GB Samsung SSD, WD 1.0TB HD, Samsung LCD monitor @ 1920x1200, TM Warthog, SIMPED vario F-16 rudders w/brakes, R.A.T. 7 mouse, 2xMimo 7" LCDs, 2xTM Cougar MFDs, and TrackIR4 w/Pro Clip. Wife who tolerates it. Cat who thinks she can interrupt at ANY time. :doh:
mikey Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 I'd wait if I were you until a good beta or reasonable stable comes along. Right now I can't even play A-10C in MP with my friends because they followed a different patch path than I did even though we all have beta 4; so who knows what will happen in the next beta you know... But if you're gonna do only SP then go ahead, but only if you don't mind running into shitty bugs or missing featuers you would've expected to be done in alpha stage already. I've got 99 problems but my Ekran ain't one
DocSigma Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 If you plan on buying this then it would be in your best interest that you pre-purchase, download the beta and get started familiarizing yourself with the sim. There is an extremely steep learning curve and by the time the release candidate is released you can jump right into it. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
Le0kong Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Be warned! This sim is the road to ruin. Look at all of the accessories in my sig; except for the TrackIR, I've bought everything in the last few months especially for A-10C. It's a time sink, too. I don't fly anything else now (except for an occasional hop in IL-2) and I couldn't care less. The training missions are a blast, landings feel like a real achievement, and the THUNK THUNK of AAA hitting the a/c makes you jump out of your seat. Yes, there are holes right now but I can see past them (I'm the patient type). If you're the same way, get the the beta. If you need a finished project to stay sane, wait a little while. Remember: save some money so you can kit this puppy out! Oh, don't even tell me about the money, i'm very restrained about spending money, i always think at least 10 times before buying something to make sure i'm not going to regret later. It is not that buying DCS A-10 as a impulse buy, it's just that i went through the 10 times safelock part really fast, than later again with the X65F, then a Wii remote to use for freetrack... and now i'm already looking to get some pedals... maybe another monitor will be nice too... these MFD things look nice too... damn AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8@3360 MHz | MB Asus M4A78-EM | 4GB DDR2-800 Kingston | XFX HD 5770 @850-900/1200-1300 | 500G Samsung HD502HI | Case CM 335 | CM-EPP 460W | Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit) | Saitek X65F | Freetrack(Wii Remote) | LG 23' W2353V
PedroTheGoat Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Oh, don't even tell me about the money, i'm very restrained about spending money, i always think at least 10 times before buying something to make sure i'm not going to regret later. It is not that buying DCS A-10 as a impulse buy, it's just that i went through the 10 times safelock part really fast, than later again with the X65F, then a Wii remote to use for freetrack... and now i'm already looking to get some pedals... maybe another monitor will be nice too... these MFD things look nice too... damn LOL. that's the problem with being a PC simmer. There is always something we need/want next. My wishlist: Thrustmaster Warthog/Current: X-52 ATI 59xx or 6xxx/Current ATI 5830 AMD six core black edition/Current: Quad black edition at 3.4 Solid state hard drive/Current: 7200rpm 500gig. etc, etc, etc. The list will never end.
Agg Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Oh' date=' don't even tell me about the money, i'm very restrained about spending money, i always think at least 10 times before buying something to make sure i'm not going to regret later.[/quote']Haha, Im the same way, and it doesnt matter that Im making a decent living. I had no quarrels about buying DCS: Warthog though, and I still think that it was well worth the money, in fact its worth a lot more than the asking price. Im still on the fence about the TM Warthog though :P If you can live with the fact that there are still a few bugs, and that things are still a work in progress then Id say go for it! Its an incredible sim even at its current state. And Beta 4 is fairly stable, I havent had a CTD yet, and if that's not enough, the optimization that has gone into Beta 4 means that FPS is a lot higher than it was in the previous Betas :)
WynnTTr Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 The way I see it is I'm going to buy and fly it anyway. May as well get it asap so I can enjoy it rather than not have it at all. It's like an appetizer - you're just waiting for the main meal. But that's me. Some would prefer not to spoil their dinner and wait to fully appreciate their steak.
Raz_Specter Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 its a big learning curve, so i suggest purchasing it and start learning the systems. Cheers Mithandra Custom built W10 Pro 64Bit, Intel Core i9 9900k, Asus ROG Maximus Code XI Z390, 64GB DDR4 3200 RGB, Samsung 1TB NVme M.2 Drive, Gigabyte AORUS 2080TI, 40" Iiyama Display. Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, HOTAS Virpil T50 Stick / FA-18C TM Stick and Virpil T50 Throttle, MFG Crosswind Graphite Pedals. HP Reverb SPECTER [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lead Terrain Developer / Texture Artist
MasterZelgadis Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 Can't be mentioned often enough, because I still keep reading "Buying the Beta".. You. Don't. Buy. The. Beta. You buy the full game before it is released, that's called a pre-purchase. The Beta is a bonus you get for buying the full game before it is released. You don't buy the beta and hae to pay for the full game again... "Sieh nur, wie majestätisch du durch die Luft segelst. Wie ein Adler. Ein fetter Adler." http://www.space-view.net
McVittees Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 I did the pre-purchase when it was first offered just so I could see the kind of quality A-10C will have on release. Since then I've decided I won't fly any more of the beta releases - I can't be bothered with bugs. My curiosity is satisfied so I'm happy to wait (however long) for the gold release, at which point l'll probably end up sinking all my time into it.:) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Great minds think alike; idiots seldom differ.":pilotfly: i5 3750K@4.3Ghz, MSI Z77A GD55, 8GB DDR3, Palit GTX 670, 24" Benq@1920*1080, X52 Pro, Win 7 64bit.
apoll Posted December 30, 2010 Author Posted December 30, 2010 Ok. Thanks everyone who replied. Hmmmmm. I am going to get this sim so I might as well do as people suggest and pre-purchase and get access to the beta. Start learning. apoll out! :)
E-Rock Posted December 30, 2010 Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) I see no reason why you shouldn't pre-purchase and fly the beta now if you intend on getting the full game when it comes out. I had a bad experience with a pre-purchased beta for an A320 sim which I won't name so I was initially hesitant but the mostly postive feedback on this forum convinced me to take the plunge and I've no regrets whatsoever. As others have mentioned there are some bugs which needs to be resolved but there's enough in the beta to keep you occupied for a couple of months while learning the systems etc. I'm so impressed with it at the moment I'm thinking of getting a Warthog HOTAS and a pair of cougar MFD's to complete the picture :) Edited December 30, 2010 by E-Rock
lubey Posted December 31, 2010 Posted December 31, 2010 I'm waiting for the boxed version and it looks as though a 2010 release isn't going to happen :( Im not too fussed though, I'd rather the final release be done right than done quick, good choice ED! SPECS: Intel Core i5 760 @ 3.2 Ghz +turboboost enabled, 12 GB DDR3 1600 @ 1500 Mhz, ATI Radeon 5850, TrackIR 5, X52 Pro and Saitek pedals
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