Mud Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 I'm wondering what the proper way of braking is on touch-down. It's unclear to me if there's a brake on the front landing gear or only on the rear ones. So, does pressing both toe brakes fully = pressing the W key? Spoiler W10-x64 | B650E Gigabyte Aorus Master | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Noctua NH-D15 G.Skill Trident ZS Neo DDR5-6000 64Gb | MSI RTX 3080ti Gaming X Asus Xonar AE | VPforce Rhino + TM Hotas Warthog MFG Crosswind pedals | Valve Index
Vullcan Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Yes, pushing both toe brakes = W key. I also noticed when you push the W key its not "on / off" it slowly applies full power as if you were slowly pushing down on both toe brakes at the same time.
mvsgas Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 No brakes on the nose landing gear (NLG), No danger of brake fire, but main landing gear (MLG) tires can blow up from overbraking. Just brake as required to stop. I try to keep the nose up and use speed brakes, on the last 1000" feet I use the brake if I need to ( haven't had a need on landing, i used the brakes frequently for taxing) To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Mud Posted February 17, 2011 Author Posted February 17, 2011 Alright, thank you for clarifying that. :thumbup: Spoiler W10-x64 | B650E Gigabyte Aorus Master | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Noctua NH-D15 G.Skill Trident ZS Neo DDR5-6000 64Gb | MSI RTX 3080ti Gaming X Asus Xonar AE | VPforce Rhino + TM Hotas Warthog MFG Crosswind pedals | Valve Index
poochies Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 that's what anti skid is for, make sure it is on, or you will blow your tires and overheat brakes...
mic1184 Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 i wonder why there's even a switch for anti-skid. why would you want to turn it off? if i understood correctly it's something similar to ABS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MB: DFI Lanparty UT P35-T2R CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3,6 GHz @ 1,328V VGA: MSI GTX460 HAWK @ 850/1700/1000 MHz MFCD: Eizo S2231 22" S-PVA RAM: A-Data Vitesta 2 x 2048 MB @ 960 MHz FLT EQPM: Saitek X-52 Pro, TrackIR 5
Boberro Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 No brakes on the nose landing gear (NLG), No danger of brake fire, but main landing gear (MLG) tires can blow up from overbraking. Just brake as required to stop. I try to keep the nose up and use speed brakes, on the last 1000" feet I use the brake if I need to ( haven't had a need on landing, i used the brakes frequently for taxing) Wow nice details :O Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
sungsam Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) i wonder why there's even a switch for anti-skid. why would you want to turn it off? if i understood correctly it's something similar to ABS Cause you need a way to override antiskid, when it's damaged not working as should be, or maybe you may need intentional drift on emergency. Have you ever wonder why F1 cars don't use ABS ? must be a reason witch I also don't know. Edited February 18, 2011 by sungsam DCS F16C 52+ w JHMCS ! DCS AH64D Longbow !
mic1184 Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) Cause you need a way to override antiskid, when it's damaged not working as should be, or maybe you may need intentional drift on emergency. Have you ever wonder why F1 cars don't use ABS ? must be a reason witch I also don't know. okay makes sense to turn off anti-skid in some emergency case. F1 cars don't use ABS cuz they don't really need it, having huge wheels and a low center of gravity. if you're really interesting read this. Basically the bigger the wheel contact surface is in relation to the vehicles mass and gravity center height, the less important ABS gets. which implies its VERY important for the A-10 if used for after touchdown braking ;-) Edited February 18, 2011 by mic1184 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MB: DFI Lanparty UT P35-T2R CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3,6 GHz @ 1,328V VGA: MSI GTX460 HAWK @ 850/1700/1000 MHz MFCD: Eizo S2231 22" S-PVA RAM: A-Data Vitesta 2 x 2048 MB @ 960 MHz FLT EQPM: Saitek X-52 Pro, TrackIR 5
sungsam Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 okay makes sense to turn off anti-skid in some emergency case. F1 cars don't use ABS cuz they don't really need it. if you're really interesting read this. Basically the bigger the wheel contact surface is in relation to the vehicles mass, the less important ABS gets. which implies its VERY important for the A-10 if used for after touchdown braking ;-) Ah ! I see, that's right and thank you ! DCS F16C 52+ w JHMCS ! DCS AH64D Longbow !
metalnwood Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 Nope, abs is banned from F1 so that drivers are required to use more skill. It's a driver aide and improves F1 performance but like other driver aides which are banned it was removed to keep a bit more skill in the racing.
BiPod Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 I studied the A/S as modelled in beta 4 here : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=66217 This test was done to find the best method to stop in the shortest distance. After considerable testing, it was clear that the A/S system increased stopping distances. The best way to stop in an emergency was to turn it off. A/S did increase handling characteristics especially at slower speeds. Beta 6 has altered the surface friction model so the results will shortly (I hope;)) become invalid. Cheers, BiPod.
winz Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) F1 cars don't use ABS cuz they don't really need it, having huge wheels and a low center of gravity. if you're really interesting read this. Because of the insane downforce the F1 car generates, it is almost impossible to lock wheels on a F1 cars at high speed. However, locking at slow speed is not big of a problem (you can see it numerous time during race), and ABS would find it use, but it's banned for the sake of driver competition (as stated above and for the same reason traction control is banned aswell). Edited February 18, 2011 by winz The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
WarriorX Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 To add to the OP's question, the other thing that you need to remember is that you really need to get control of your landing airspeed. The closer you come in with your airspeed around 130 kts, the less you will need to use extreme braking to stop. The other idea that is to not overshoot your landing and therefore create a need for heavy braking. Just keep practicing, you will get the hang of it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
mvsgas Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Wow nice details :O Dash ones says thing like that. There is not a black and white amount of braking. To many variables. Speed, weight, wind, runway conditions, etc. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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