MTFDarkEagle Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 mom/dad/brother/sister/uncle/aunt/friend of any kind? 1 Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Succellus Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Well althought english have many similarities you don t have the exact same pronouciation meaning 5 diferent things just by inflection, which is scary to me, and most have kind of fun relation (like mother and cow)as it has been said. Also any kind of scripting in represenation, like Japonese, Chinese and so many others asiatic languages is only subjective after some point. Thats why nobody know all Chinese Character and if any know all japonese characters. The latin alfabet (and some others) try to avoid this rationalizing the scripting to a combination of a few characters.(Which come to the extreme and funny German championship of the longest word) Looking at those 2 aspects occidental is easyer than oriental, but oriental has a broader range of detailing even if a lot of the scripting fall in "obsolescence" due to no use. There only one way to really learn any language: a passion linked to it. If you don t connect something you really need /like to the language your trying to learn, you ll never pass good, if that much. And there s worst... most languages requires diferent uses of the same muscles (which get used in our childhood to operate in usually one or 2 forms connected to language learning) thats why people from some languages are utterly challenged to correctly reproduce sounds and words from some foreign languages. which can lead to dramatic mistakes in languages leaded by inflection. There also the mindset behind the language that affect much of the language structure, learning a gramatically foreign language is a good way to avoid alzheimer, but men, you gonna sufferrrrr. 1 HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
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Sticky Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 I love the English language, not my native language, but english has one big disadvantage, on Teamspeak, you cant hear the difference sometimes between can and cant :D That could cause you alot of problems ;):pilotfly::joystick: 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Sim/Game CV: Falcon 1,3,4. Gunship. A10 TankKiller. Fighter Bomber. Strike eagle 2&3. F19 Stealth Fighter. F117. Wings. F29 Retaliator. Jetfighter II. F16 Fighting Falcon. Strike Commander. F22 Raptor. F16MRF. ATF. EF2000. Longbow 1&2. TankKiller2 Silent Thunder. Hind. Apache Havoc. EECH. EAW. F22 ADF. TAW. Janes WW2,USAF,IAF,F15,F18. F18 Korea. F18 Super Hornet. B17 II. CFS 2. Flanker 2&2.5. BOB. Mig Alley. IL2. LOMAC. IL2FB. FC2. DCS:BS. DCS:A10C.
Teej Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 I love the English language, not my native language, but english has one big disadvantage, on Teamspeak, you cant hear the difference sometimes between can and cant :D That could cause you alot of problems ;):pilotfly::joystick: Agreed. That stems from lazy pronunciation though. They should be obviously different in sound, but ironically I would find it easier to describe the difference in what I'm saying better in terms of chinese tones or russian hard/soft signs. Heh. Trouble is when people try to speed up the comms, the differences disappear. "Tank! I need a program for a TM Warthog!" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Thermaltake V9 SECC case | Corsair RM750 PSU | Asus ROG Ranger VIII | Intel i7 6700K | 16GB 3000mhz RAM | EVGA GTX 980Ti FTW | TrackIR 4 w/ pro clip | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM MFD Cougar Pack | Win 10 x64 |
Stretch Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Some English accents or dialects drop the "t" at the end of a word. This can make "can" and "can't" sound the same. There are subtle pronunciation differences though. When a trailing "t" in "can't" is dropped, it is usually replaced with a glottal stop. Whereas the "n" sound in "can" is allowed to trail longer and is terminated by removing the tongue from the roof of the mouth, with "can't" it is stopped abruptly with the glottis. EDIT: You can also distinguish the two sounds because an instance of "can" will end with the "n" sound blending into the next word ("can go" sounds like "cannngo"), whereas with "can't" there will be a very brief moment of silence between the two ("can't go" sounds like "can <tiny pause> go"). Edited February 23, 2011 by Stretch Tim "Stretch" Morgan 72nd VFW, 617th VFS Other handles: Strikeout (72nd VFW, 15th MEU Realism Unit), RISCfuture (BMS forums) PC and Peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RISCfuture/saved/#view=DMp6XL Win10 x64 — BMS — DCS — P3D
Sticky Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah thats all good, but doesnt help one bit when many of us are saying can and cant flavoured with our own personal accent since we are from different non english native speaking countries, talking over a mike :D I guess one could try to adapt a british pronounciation of cant, and exaggerate, maybe that would work. Or start saying "can not". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Sim/Game CV: Falcon 1,3,4. Gunship. A10 TankKiller. Fighter Bomber. Strike eagle 2&3. F19 Stealth Fighter. F117. Wings. F29 Retaliator. Jetfighter II. F16 Fighting Falcon. Strike Commander. F22 Raptor. F16MRF. ATF. EF2000. Longbow 1&2. TankKiller2 Silent Thunder. Hind. Apache Havoc. EECH. EAW. F22 ADF. TAW. Janes WW2,USAF,IAF,F15,F18. F18 Korea. F18 Super Hornet. B17 II. CFS 2. Flanker 2&2.5. BOB. Mig Alley. IL2. LOMAC. IL2FB. FC2. DCS:BS. DCS:A10C.
Sticky Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 I mean one person, from country A could be sayin CAN the exact same way as another person, from country B says CANT, on the same channel. Its a mess :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Sim/Game CV: Falcon 1,3,4. Gunship. A10 TankKiller. Fighter Bomber. Strike eagle 2&3. F19 Stealth Fighter. F117. Wings. F29 Retaliator. Jetfighter II. F16 Fighting Falcon. Strike Commander. F22 Raptor. F16MRF. ATF. EF2000. Longbow 1&2. TankKiller2 Silent Thunder. Hind. Apache Havoc. EECH. EAW. F22 ADF. TAW. Janes WW2,USAF,IAF,F15,F18. F18 Korea. F18 Super Hornet. B17 II. CFS 2. Flanker 2&2.5. BOB. Mig Alley. IL2. LOMAC. IL2FB. FC2. DCS:BS. DCS:A10C.
Stretch Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah, I think native speakers subconsciously figure it out by listening to the way speakers pronounce other words with "t"s in them, and then using that to determine whether or not "can't" will be pronounce "can't" or "can'<stop>". 1 Tim "Stretch" Morgan 72nd VFW, 617th VFS Other handles: Strikeout (72nd VFW, 15th MEU Realism Unit), RISCfuture (BMS forums) PC and Peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RISCfuture/saved/#view=DMp6XL Win10 x64 — BMS — DCS — P3D
vrv Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I am crazy indeed.the endless words make me insaneЈЎit's all you english poeple'faultЈЎwhy you create so much words almost have no connection with each other, and so hard to remember them .now I have no time to enjoy the game anymore! maybe blow up my brain is a good solutionЈЎ How does I shot web? Try learning Glossia... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] EtherealN: I will promptly perform a sex change and offer my hand in marriage to whomever
hassata Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I have a surefire way to quickly and easily learn multiple language at the same time. Live with native speakers before the age of ten (or even watch TV in the desired language at an early age). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rusty_M Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I think the worst thing in English is the pronounciation. Languages like German and Finnish are much easier from that standpoint, as the letters themselves tell you how to pronounce something. Arguably "fish" could be spelled "ghoti". There's also the problem of the difference between UK and US English. I would write "colour" for example. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Can't expect the US to spell colour when they can't even spell all the individual ones correctly (gray / grey). :D But I like the multiple meanings you can get from an English phrase. How about this one - "fruit flies like a banana" Did I mean "some insects such as fruit flies enjoy eating bananas". Did I mean "banana shaped fruit flies". Did I mean "all pieces of fruit will fly through the air with the aerodynamic qualities of bananas". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
Boberro Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) .............there your brain comes and you translates it into correct meaning depending of context :) If you are scientist I think answer 3 will be correct, it'd be odd to talk about ex. flies and so on ^^...... context..... it is sometimes quite difficult but this is why we have brain :D Edited February 24, 2011 by Boberro Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Rusty_M Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Panda walks into a bar, orders a pie, devours it, fires a gun at the barman, then walks out. Eats, shoots & leaves. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
Kuky Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Here's one from Serbo-Croatian (that was official name of the language back in former Yugo :)) "Gore gore gore gore" Depending on pronounciation each word has different meaning and mean following (each word in same order) Up Worse Forests Burn Nice aye :) Edited February 24, 2011 by Kuky PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Stretch Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Buffalo, Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo (pr.n.) - a city in New York buffalo (n., pl.) - heavy wild oxen buffalo (v.) - overawe or intimidate Replacing the sentence with synonyms (New York, oxen, intimidate): Oxen, [that] New York oxen intimidate, intimidate New York oxen. Tim "Stretch" Morgan 72nd VFW, 617th VFS Other handles: Strikeout (72nd VFW, 15th MEU Realism Unit), RISCfuture (BMS forums) PC and Peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RISCfuture/saved/#view=DMp6XL Win10 x64 — BMS — DCS — P3D
mikoyan Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 because everything sounds cooler in english hahaha; chinese doesn't sound cool at all I'm sorry haha
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 "Gore gore gore gore" Up Worse Forests Burn Which is kinda funny as Al Gore is all about global warming and saving the rain forest. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
Rusty_M Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Anyone ever tried translating puns or word-play? My god it's annoying to try! Usually the translation makes no sense, even though the original makes perfect sense. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
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