Smokin Hole Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I wasn't being modest, this really is a pointless post. The Ka50 side of the forum isn't seeing much traffic of late due to the arrival of it's new brother. But this new sibling, although admittedly cool and attractive, still serves to remind me of what a brilliant release Black Shark was. I now know the difference between TMS forward short and China Hat aft...and I am over it. It's a novelty to tinker with while I wait for the day that the Black Shark is allowed to play in the WH world. Because DCS:BS is STILL the greatest advance in modern air combat simulation and now more than ever it deserves it's honored spot as the flagship of the series. 6
26-J39 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Post not so pointless.. :) I enjoyed reading.. +1 The A-10 is a beast but the Shark IS and will always be something special.. :thumbup:
bmbpdk Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 true, BS has "something" about it, allthough ive never played BS, i often see BS videos on youtube. Inno3d RTX 2070 Twin X2, ASUS STRIX Z270E Gaming, Intel i7 7700K, 32GB Corsair vengeance, Kingston Hyper X FPS Alloy Cherry MX Red, Logitech G102 Prodigy, Track Ir 5, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Combat Rudder pedals, Beyer Dynamic DT770, Acer CB280HK 4K monitor, Win 10 Pro 64bit
Xxx Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 There is no other helicopter combat simulation ( and probably never will be ) that has the top quality simulation credentials Black Shark has. Totally immersive and if your of a type ( and I think we all here are) that has to learn something well to "do it " well, this sim beats them all. The single seat battlefield helicopter role, as envisioned by Kamov, has to be learnt and followed if any sort of success is to be achieved. Not to mention you have to fly a helicopter well first!! Regards. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]i7 Haswell @ 4.6Ghz, Z97p, GTX1080, 32GB DDR3, x3SSD, Win7/64, professional. 32" BenQ, TIR 5, Saitek x55 HOTAS. Search User Files for "herky" for my uploaded missions. My flight sim videos on You Tube. https://www.youtube.com/user/David Herky
Rusty_M Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 That post wasn't so pointless. Black Shark is great. I just need to take the time to learn it, and some other sims. It's taking longer than I thought it would, but I've only been getting back into sims for the past 9 months. It was very daunting at first. Now it's not daunting, but I know i've a lot to learn about all of these sims. Black shark included. I keep flying for a while before having my rotors collide. I must learn to be more patient. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
Napa Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Black Shark is indeed very special, being the flagship of DCS series while many more modules still to come will make it even more special. And the best thing about it is that it will get upgraded each time (hopefully) a new module is being released. Intel i7 12700k / Corsair H150i Elite Capellix / Asus TUF Z690 Wifi D4 / Corsair Dominator 32GB 3200Mhz / Corsair HW1000W / 1x Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 500Gb + 1 Corsair MP600 1TB / ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 / Fractal Design Meshify 2 / HOTAS Warthog / TFRP Rudder / TrackIR 5 / Dell U2515h 25" Monitor 1440p
RvETito Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Black Shark is a very important milestone in the flight sims development. I would rather divide it on two - before and after BS. 1 "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Excellent post! While I purchased A-10, I did not take it as enthusiastic as when Black Shark came out. I mostly fly BS. I can not wait for compatibility patch. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Sticky Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Really looking forward to when the compatibility patch comes up and it gets all the new dcs enhancements, ai etc. But question is will it be enough to put it at no1?? I dont think so.. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Sim/Game CV: Falcon 1,3,4. Gunship. A10 TankKiller. Fighter Bomber. Strike eagle 2&3. F19 Stealth Fighter. F117. Wings. F29 Retaliator. Jetfighter II. F16 Fighting Falcon. Strike Commander. F22 Raptor. F16MRF. ATF. EF2000. Longbow 1&2. TankKiller2 Silent Thunder. Hind. Apache Havoc. EECH. EAW. F22 ADF. TAW. Janes WW2,USAF,IAF,F15,F18. F18 Korea. F18 Super Hornet. B17 II. CFS 2. Flanker 2&2.5. BOB. Mig Alley. IL2. LOMAC. IL2FB. FC2. DCS:BS. DCS:A10C.
Heli Shed Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 BS will always be BS. When it was released the community fell overthemselves with the complexity and fidelity of such an awesomely made sim. It truely was, hell, is, the ONLY proper simulator out there. FSX, ARMA series, doesn't come close. You can't just jump into a BS, you need hours in the seat to make her dance and put her where you want to, first time, every time. Anticipation, describes the community awaiting the DCS A-10C model. amazed, of course, we all are, fantastic job by ED and the Devs, but 'anticipation' none the less. With BS, it was a punch in the face with a hammer and then like being set on fire by a group of 'hoodies', while they done something nasty to, well, i dunno................your gran? Exactly, gobsmaked! Well done OP +1 here. 'T' Come pay us a visit on YouTube - search for HELI SHED
Ninjaofdoom Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I am interested in getting A-10 once they iron out some of the issues with the release build, but when the compat patch comes, I believe I'll always be found in the BS. It takes so much more finesse to fly a helicopter, let alone fly it in a combat environment whilst working weapons systems etc. I've been in the BS for a couple months now, and can start/fly/return home pretty effectively. However, nuances in the nav systems and getting unguided rockets to hit targets (while in the heat of combat) is shaky at best. It will be a LONG time before I know all the ins and outs, and I look forward to that trip. Long live BS! I _do_ hope that after they make a fast mover they go to the Apache though... :D Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car. i7-930 @ 3.8ghz, 6GB Corsair Dominator 1600, EVGA GTX470, OCZ 60GB SSD, TrackIR 5 Pro, Win7 64 And a 46" LCD at 1920x1080 to enjoy the goodness :joystick: :pilotfly:
Grimes Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 While I do enjoy the Ka-50 I didn't take to learning it quite like I did with the A-10C. That said there is definitely something cool about that chopper and I'll certainly keep flying it. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Bodo Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) I kind of see Black Shark as a piece of art. It really is like you're in another world when you fly it, some games achieve that, like Operation Flashpoint at the time, but now ARMA has lost that 'feeling' unfortunately, for me. BS, however, I think gave me that vibe again, A10 doesn't feel as evocative, for some reason. Don't get me wrong, though, A10 is great but I haven't put the time into it enough yet. I will do. Flying the Shark kinda reminds me of why my dad drives classic cars. It sorta feels like you can smell the cockpit, looking outside the craft you feel like you can taste the air. It's a strange feeling, one that only really comes into effect when you've finished playing and start reflecting. Anyway, I'm getting a little OTT now. Black Shark is truly a masterpiece. Edited February 28, 2011 by Bodo Got rid of boring stuff Corsair 550D / Be Quiet 650W Pro 10 / ASUS P8Z77-V Pro / Intel i5 3570K / 16GB Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz / EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX2 4GB / 128GB Samsung 830 / RME HDSPe Multiface 2 / 1TB Samsung F3 / Prolimatech Megalames Rev. B / Windows 10 / BenQ XL2420T / Saitek X52 Pro / Kone Pure+ / Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja
andysim Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 i actualy got the WH stick for the A-10c then found myself flying the Ka-50 with it the first day I got it hehe, I know its a diffrent aircraft but the new stick made such a diffrence to all the sims I fly hehe. Most of my time is spent learning about the A-10 but I will put aside an hour or two a week for the BS so when it gets ported over to the otherside I will be ready hehe.
isoul Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Black Shark will always be special. Black Shark is something like the Air Combat Aces of World War I ... No matter how many years have passed, no matter the means they had, no matter the simplicity of their machines and the "primitive" stage of Aerial Warfare... THEY are the FIRST who wrote history in the air while others just followed. For that they will be remembered! The OP is far from pointless!!!
Rusty_M Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Every time I play this, I hone my abilities noticeably. I still can't land, but for me there's some amazing feeling of controlling this beast that was like a wild stallion when I first took off, and now it's getting to the stage where I can happily shoot things if they're not actively shooting at me. I can fly in a (mostly) controlled manner. Still couldn't land if my real life depended on it though. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
Sulman Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 DCS:BS is still the premier combat helo sim. I'll buy A-10 because I want to support ED, but once BS gets your heart, that's it. You'll never want to go back and see that world any higher than 100 metres, or faster than 250kph.. As has been said before, the Shark gives back what you put in. It's awesome. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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