How is the Mission Generator?

[RichardG]

What kind of missions does it kick out? Anyone using it yet? This will make it or break it for me. (I'm not talking about campaigns)

[oho]

Quick mission generator has much improved over the beta. It is highly customizable, if you want you can edit the whole mission or only parts like loadout. You have strength of units (AAA, SAM, Vehicles etc.) for every side or weather, scenario etc. which you can select and JTAC works great too. It's mostly (only?) CAS with JTAC available.

[slug88]

Quick mission generator has much improved over the beta. It is highly customizable, if you want you can edit the whole mission or only parts like loadout. You have strength of units (AAA, SAM, Vehicles etc.) for every side or weather, scenario etc. which you can select and JTAC works great too. It's mostly (only?) CAS with JTAC available.

 

I agree with everything you said, except the part about it being better than the beta. As far as I can tell it's identical to the beta version, which isn't a bad thing because it was great in the betas. Except that it never generates any fighters, no matter what the setting.

[winz]

Except that it never generates any fighters, no matter what the setting.

That's not really a bad thing, considering my F15C CAP escort in Georgian Hammer gets beaten even by Su34... In one case I've seen a Ka50 take out a F15C by vikher...

[GAJ52]

I tend to use it a lot as I haven't mastered the Mission Editor yet. Works quite well, although the other day I thought I had a boat to attack but realised when I got closer it was a line of 'trucks' ....in the sea ??

[mic1184]

the mission editor is pretty comprehensive and fairly easy to use. I'm flying 90% self-made missions (still for practice) and I kinda love it. With the advanced waypoints you have a lot of detailed option e.g. tell a F/A-18C to attack a insurgent ship with a harpoon (if you don't set the weapon, the AI decides what to do).

 

Setting up some really easy 1 on 1 missions (T80 vs M1, F-15C vs. Su-27 etc.) and starting them a couple times i saw a tendency that the russian hardware seems to be a little overpowered. This is either because ED is russian (this has been stated before, consider it a quote) or because the player usually is blue and to give him a bit of a challenge. It really isnt a big deal.

 

One of the bigger problems of the mission editor is unit placement. On the map you don't always see where you place stuff exactly and the only way to tell is to load up the mission and cycle cameras through the units. Maybe the satellite view would help, I weren't able to switch to it in the editor. A 3D terrain preview would definitely help here. Let alone to know what you place when choosing "subsidiary structure 7" without a hundred hours of exp.

 

Another kick s feature is the random trigger, for which you can set the probability percentage. Meanwhile I use this a lot to make the missions a little less predictive.

 

I really like the editor. Unlike the campaign builder which is merely chaining missions together and add some text. no parameter handover to add some artifical dynamics.

If you hit something in a mission it will be back in the next mission like nothing happened. I really hope ED is going to improve it next so we can start building more immersive campaigns.

 

The mission editor is worth the $60 all for itself for me. If I'm not in the mood to fly i like just to watch a B1 bomb the s out of some military base. Or have two destroyers fight each other.

Edited March 1, 2011 by mic1184

[hassata]

Nice-maybe think about uploading some missions to the files section.

[Goshawk]

What does the difficulting setting change when you create a fast mission?

[Wayc00lio]

How do you get JTAC comms freq on fast missions? I just went into the mission editor of the generated mission and couldn't find a JTAC unit to get the freq from! Please help!!!

 

:-)

[ben1101]

You know, Mic1184's comment about Ed being Russian got me thinking..

 

I am completely new to military hardware and terminology for both sides I was a complete noob and only flew x-plane civil helis (bored as hell but didnt realize it) until DCS KA-50 came out.

 

And from the start considering Im white and western I see the American side of things before any other side.

 

Since then i regularly read up on both sides of the hardware and compare, even hellfires (even with fire and forget) don't match a vihkr payload for payload, range for range. I think Russians had a tendency to over engineer their stuff, where as America plays it lighter and closer to the envelope. And in the battlefield over engineered simply works better. Both good for Killing People, maybe equally* civilians, don't get me wrong.

 

But my monies always on the russians after researching the tech (I mean, with 1980's hardware they can almost match an apache, and if there was ever an apache on the side of the planet of a KA-50 they would give em AA and we ALL know it please dont get angry with me its in the g*ddamned specs already!! Edit: Phew I'm in the A:10 forum I can say what I like about AA!But I won't, Mods, You can be assured. ).

 

Besides, as Mic1184 said:

The mission editor is worth the $60 all for itself for me. If I'm not in the mood to fly i like just to watch a B1 bomb the s out of some military base. Or have two destroyers fight each other.

And damn.

 

 

 

*being ugh, equal about the white elephant. And all subjective opinion.

Edited March 3, 2011 by ben1101

[BTTW-DratsaB]

Quick Mission Generator

 

What kind of missions does it kick out? Anyone using it yet? This will make it or break it for me. (I'm not talking about campaigns)

 

Yeah its pretty good. It's pretty much all I have been flying with the Beta and now release. I have found the AI to be a bit more responsive and more like a battle now in the release than in the Beta.

 

There are some quirks though. If you generate a mission close to the sea it can end up putting units in the water. Also, the weather settings are not the best really. I mainly fly "Cloudy". I would like to fly over cast with rain or just over cast. But the only option that gives weather some-what like this is "Precipitation" but this settings has overcast clouds at about 700m and fog all the way to the ground...it looks pretty crappy, I would have called this setting "heavy bad weather with Fog". I guess I can just change it in the editor before flight, but it seems like a pretty extreme weather setting for "Precipitation".

 

What does the difficulting setting change when you create a fast mission?

 

I would like to know this too. Perhaps the skill of enemy units ?

 

....JTAC works great too. It's mostly (only?) CAS with JTAC available.

 

I have not noticed an option to add a JTAC yet, that would be great. Where do you set this?

[oho]

I never set this in quick mission generator. It's almost always there (easy radio option F4) automatically.

[ben1101]

I have been away from my sim computer for 8 weeks. Oh god, Im going to learn all this sh*t aren't I? Years of my life replaced by complex comms and jtac, what flavour are those? DCS is that good :)

[Soundman]

I agree with everything you said, except the part about it being better than the beta. As far as I can tell it's identical to the beta version, which isn't a bad thing because it was great in the betas. Except that it never generates any fighters, no matter what the setting.

 

Hmm....? According to my log following a mission last night, I was shot down by a Su-25.. What made me look, was that I was shot down shortly after takeoff and was not yet near any enemy ground forces.

[EtherealN]

I suspect that by "fighter" he means actual fighters, not bomb-trucks like the Su-25. ;)

[Soundman]

I suspect that by "fighter" he means actual fighters, not bomb-trucks like the Su-25. ;)

 

Hehe..I suppose you are right, but fighter or not, it shot my behind down! :D

[FlyinJ]

What is the best way to deal with Su-25s (or any air-to-air threats). The section in the manual regarding using the targeting pod to acquire them sounds laughable. You're supposed to slew around the sky looking for them?

 

I know the A-10 is not meant for an air to air role, but what is the overall strategy? Get down low? How do you know where they are, as there is no Air to Air radar. Just the RWR?

[Sticky]

What is the best way to deal with Su-25s (or any air-to-air threats). The section in the manual regarding using the targeting pod to acquire them sounds laughable. You're supposed to slew around the sky looking for them?

 

I know the A-10 is not meant for an air to air role, but what is the overall strategy? Get down low? How do you know where they are, as there is no Air to Air radar. Just the RWR?

 

In my own missions I always have Eagles on station, flying CAP, waiting for my orders :) My strategy is let someone else take care of them. I have never tried shooting down a fast mover, only helos. Its pointless to me to even try. If the mission doesnt let you call on CAP to help you (comms then F10) then I dont know. Bad mission design perhaps?

[slug88]

What is the best way to deal with Su-25s (or any air-to-air threats). The section in the manual regarding using the targeting pod to acquire them sounds laughable. You're supposed to slew around the sky looking for them?

 

I know the A-10 is not meant for an air to air role, but what is the overall strategy? Get down low? How do you know where they are, as there is no Air to Air radar. Just the RWR?

 

Have you tried the Air-to-Air Training Mission?

[RichardG]

Does it send you to different locations? Or are all the mission areas in the same geographic location?

[slug88]

Different locations: it can either be random, or you can select one of about a dozen or so areas in the Caucasus/Georgia region.

[Spectre_USA]

Can't wait to get it back for the Nellis map!

 

But I do agree with most of the above. I fly from these missions generated, then tweak them

to taste, as to what loadout and opposition I feel like.

 

It brings the replayability factor from low to max!

[GGTharos]

But my monies always on the russians after researching the tech (I mean, with 1980's hardware they can almost match an apache,

 

I'll take your money right now. Major research fail on your part.

 

and if there was ever an apache on the side of the planet of a KA-50 they would give em AA and we ALL know it please dont get angry with me its in the g*ddamned specs already!!

 

It isn't. There's a button marked 'AA' and as far as we know, it isn't even wired, nor does the FCS appear to be capable of supporting more stations.

 

Thats right. I cram all the controversy into one single post so when they see Banned on my intelligent posts they really have to look for it haha. gone.

 

You certainly crammed a lot of "I read the internets" into one post ;)

[ben1101]

Yeah I guess I could have researched failed. The potential was always there and who wouldn't be pro the ship you fly every day?

 

Damn this place is too cool. ill delete the crap ATT was up for too long haha thanks GG <3

 

Will have to shoot you down on the 104th one day :P (with a vikhr)

Edited March 3, 2011 by ben1101

[GGTharos]

First I have to shoot down 17,179 Ka-50's, and the number keeps going up every time I post for some reason! :P

 

Apparently those are the odds of a Ka-50 vs my Eagle, so I believe you need to get behind a not-so-short line :D