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Ok guys...i am tired of reading and deciphering manual...can somebody post a quick tutorial on how to enter coordinates from JTAC to CDU?

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I'll try from memory:

 

EGI-CDU.jpg

 

Click WP button on CDU.

Click Waypoint FSK

Click ?(number) i.e ?5 on the right side. (This copies the last WP, that you will then enter)

Click the L/L button to input UTM or leave it to enter Lat/Long

Enter your coordiates via the scratchpad

Click the bottom left FSK button to enter coordinates.

 

Click FPM button

Click top right FSK button to edit Flight Plan

Go to end of flight plan, most likely have to press Page Down to get there.

- (say you have 5 waypoints and you want to enter a 6th)

Press 6 on the scratch pad

Click the appropiate FSK button on the left that is lined up with the empty waypoint.

 

Check it on TAD.

 

And you are done. There are other settings you can do, steer to / from etc, elevation.. but the above will get the basics sorted for you.

 

(i'm away and this is the best i can do, cant take screen shots etc.. hope this helps though)

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Posted (edited)

Was also wondering this, reading through the CDU part in the manual only made me more confused :noexpression:

 

EDIT: Your method worked, MadTommy. Thanks a bunch! It's alot easier learning it from someone else than reading through the manual which can be quite brutal at times :P

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Paulrkiii, great tute. But tell me something: where do you get the co-ords for the new waypoints from to input into the CDU? How do you get them? Because I'll be stuffed if I can find a way to gather LL coords in the game.

 

thanks.

 

apoll

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Some missions will include in-flight instructions, i.e. customised text and/or voice messages which can include any arbitrary information they want, such as coordinates.

 

And of course if you play MP other players can hand them to you.

 

And if you simply want to practice, you can use the F10 map or F7 ground vehicle view to find the coordinates of something interesting and try inputting them. You'll need to convert the seconds part into decimal degrees but that's not difficult.

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Some missions will include in-flight instructions, i.e. customised text and/or voice messages which can include any arbitrary information they want, such as coordinates.

 

And of course if you play MP other players can hand them to you.

 

And if you simply want to practice, you can use the F10 map or F7 ground vehicle view to find the coordinates of something interesting and try inputting them. You'll need to convert the seconds part into decimal degrees but that's not difficult.

 

 

The SP mission "Smerch Hunt" is a good example of in-flight coords execution. This mission uses both UTM and Lat Long Coords to direct you to new targets so its good for practicing manual waypoint creation for both coord types.

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Nomdeplume and to all others , thanks for info..Can you just tell us how to convert and what into decimal degrees?

 

 

Some missions will include in-flight instructions, i.e. customised text and/or voice messages which can include any arbitrary information they want, such as coordinates.

 

And of course if you play MP other players can hand them to you.

 

And if you simply want to practice, you can use the F10 map or F7 ground vehicle view to find the coordinates of something interesting and try inputting them. You'll need to convert the seconds part into decimal degrees but that's not difficult.

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How about Manual waypoint deletion? :music_whistling:

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Thank you sir for sharing this guide.

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Snoopy, great visual guide but I don't understand the whole formula thing. Wouldn't .3146 round to .310, not.342? Also for the long coordinates, how did you get 04206140 from the original coordinates? I can only see where the first two numbers came from on that one

 

 

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here is an abbreviated, 1 page sheet to help with the coordinate entry and flight plan set up.

 

I didnt make it, just took the original and made it short.

 

entering the coords is explained and how to do the calculations/conversions.

 

Jeff

Flight Plan Guide-abbreviated.pdf

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I don't understand the whole formula thing. Wouldn't .3146 round to .310, not.342?

 

Yes, it would. However, 20.5/60 gives .3417 rather than .3146 as written. Rounding correct, typo in the unrounded figure.

 

 

Also for the long coordinates, how did you get 04206140 from the original coordinates? I can only see where the first two numbers came from on that one

 

That one is wrong as well. E042 61' 07.8" is a bogus coordinate, as there are only 60 arc minutes in a degree. You can never have 61'. Even if it was a valid coordinate, it'd be calculated to E042 61.130 and entered as 04261130. You can't zero pad the minutes. If more figures are required by the CDU, you'd zero pad at the end if anything. You see in the example that it ends up all wrong, with 6' instead of 61' (SIC!). I assume the CDU was reluctant to swallow 61 minutes of arc... :)

 

If we instead assume the valid coordinate E043 01' 07.8", it translates to E043 01.130. Try entering that one. I'll try to check how it works later tonight.

 

Basic formula is valid though:

DD MM SS.ssss => DD MM.(SS.sss/60)

 

Edit: jeffyd,

that's the one discussed above. You might want to clean up the calcs?

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Snoopy, great visual guide but I don't understand the whole formula thing. Wouldn't .3146 round to .310, not.342? Also for the long coordinates, how did you get 04206140 from the original coordinates? I can only see where the first two numbers came from on that one

 

 

Thanks

 

The formulas don't work out exactly in the guide because I wanted new folks to our V Squadron to be able to put in the correct coordinates for the ranges.

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ah ok. Lets say a JTAC gives me coordinates. Can I input those directly, or do I have to do a conversion with those?

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I created a conversion table for this and embedded it into my Helios profile:

 

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Much quicker/easier than fidling with calculations on the fly (literally ;)).

If you have Excel it's very easy to knock up something like this for printing.

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