hreich Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Ok guys...i am tired of reading and deciphering manual...can somebody post a quick tutorial on how to enter coordinates from JTAC to CDU? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Pilot from Croatia
MadTommy Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) I'll try from memory: Click WP button on CDU. Click Waypoint FSK Click ?(number) i.e ?5 on the right side. (This copies the last WP, that you will then enter) Click the L/L button to input UTM or leave it to enter Lat/Long Enter your coordiates via the scratchpad Click the bottom left FSK button to enter coordinates. Click FPM button Click top right FSK button to edit Flight Plan Go to end of flight plan, most likely have to press Page Down to get there. - (say you have 5 waypoints and you want to enter a 6th) Press 6 on the scratch pad Click the appropiate FSK button on the left that is lined up with the empty waypoint. Check it on TAD. And you are done. There are other settings you can do, steer to / from etc, elevation.. but the above will get the basics sorted for you. (i'm away and this is the best i can do, cant take screen shots etc.. hope this helps though) Edited March 1, 2011 by MadTommy 1 i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
John1606687966 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) Was also wondering this, reading through the CDU part in the manual only made me more confused :noexpression: EDIT: Your method worked, MadTommy. Thanks a bunch! It's alot easier learning it from someone else than reading through the manual which can be quite brutal at times :P Edited March 1, 2011 by John
Snoopy Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Made this as a quick guide for folks in my V-Squadron http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1098811&postcount=6 1 v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
apoll Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Paulrkiii, great tute. But tell me something: where do you get the co-ords for the new waypoints from to input into the CDU? How do you get them? Because I'll be stuffed if I can find a way to gather LL coords in the game. thanks. apoll
nomdeplume Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Some missions will include in-flight instructions, i.e. customised text and/or voice messages which can include any arbitrary information they want, such as coordinates. And of course if you play MP other players can hand them to you. And if you simply want to practice, you can use the F10 map or F7 ground vehicle view to find the coordinates of something interesting and try inputting them. You'll need to convert the seconds part into decimal degrees but that's not difficult.
SY_KO Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Some missions will include in-flight instructions, i.e. customised text and/or voice messages which can include any arbitrary information they want, such as coordinates. And of course if you play MP other players can hand them to you. And if you simply want to practice, you can use the F10 map or F7 ground vehicle view to find the coordinates of something interesting and try inputting them. You'll need to convert the seconds part into decimal degrees but that's not difficult. The SP mission "Smerch Hunt" is a good example of in-flight coords execution. This mission uses both UTM and Lat Long Coords to direct you to new targets so its good for practicing manual waypoint creation for both coord types. ~~~ Win7 64bit // i5 2500K @4.2Ghz // ASUS P8P67 Pro ~~~ ~~~ H50 Cooler // 12GB 1600 DDR3 // EVGA GTX580 SC ~~~ ~~~ TMW // Combat Pedals // TrackIR 4 ~~~
Snoopy Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Paulrkiii, great tute. But tell me something: where do you get the co-ords for the new waypoints from to input into the CDU? How do you get them? Because I'll be stuffed if I can find a way to gather LL coords in the game. thanks. apoll I got the coordinates from the Mission Editor... 1 v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
hreich Posted March 1, 2011 Author Posted March 1, 2011 Nomdeplume and to all others , thanks for info..Can you just tell us how to convert and what into decimal degrees? Some missions will include in-flight instructions, i.e. customised text and/or voice messages which can include any arbitrary information they want, such as coordinates. And of course if you play MP other players can hand them to you. And if you simply want to practice, you can use the F10 map or F7 ground vehicle view to find the coordinates of something interesting and try inputting them. You'll need to convert the seconds part into decimal degrees but that's not difficult. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Pilot from Croatia
effte Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 An arc minute is one 60th of a degree. An arc second is one 60th of an arc minute, or one 3600th of a degree. To convert DD MM SS.ssss into decimal degrees you use DD + MM/60 + SS.ssss/3600 ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
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SY_KO Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 How about Manual waypoint deletion? :music_whistling: ~~~ Win7 64bit // i5 2500K @4.2Ghz // ASUS P8P67 Pro ~~~ ~~~ H50 Cooler // 12GB 1600 DDR3 // EVGA GTX580 SC ~~~ ~~~ TMW // Combat Pedals // TrackIR 4 ~~~
effte Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 How about Manual waypoint deletion? :music_whistling: That's what you use CBUs for. Nothing left standing in a 100 m radius! :thumbup: Or... wait... did you mean in the navigation system? ;) ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
mooshim Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 LMAO~@ effte [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0"
Para_Bellum Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I'll try from memory:... Thank you, much appreciated! :thumbup:
dne48 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Thank you sir for sharing this guide. "To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is home."-----anonymous
kingneptune117 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Snoopy, great visual guide but I don't understand the whole formula thing. Wouldn't .3146 round to .310, not.342? Also for the long coordinates, how did you get 04206140 from the original coordinates? I can only see where the first two numbers came from on that one Thanks "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci Intel i7-4790k | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo heat sink | Thermaltake Core V71 case | 750W EVGA PSU | 8gb G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 RAM | MSI Z97 Gaming 5 LGA 1150 motherboard | Samsung SSD | ASUS STRIX GTX 970 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | TIR 5 | Razer Deathadder | Corsair K70
jeffyd123 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 here is an abbreviated, 1 page sheet to help with the coordinate entry and flight plan set up. I didnt make it, just took the original and made it short. entering the coords is explained and how to do the calculations/conversions. JeffFlight Plan Guide-abbreviated.pdf i7 8700K @ 4.4Ghz, 16G 3200 RAM, Nvidia 1080Ti, T16000 HOTAS, TIR5, 75" DLP Monitor
effte Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) I don't understand the whole formula thing. Wouldn't .3146 round to .310, not.342? Yes, it would. However, 20.5/60 gives .3417 rather than .3146 as written. Rounding correct, typo in the unrounded figure. Also for the long coordinates, how did you get 04206140 from the original coordinates? I can only see where the first two numbers came from on that one That one is wrong as well. E042 61' 07.8" is a bogus coordinate, as there are only 60 arc minutes in a degree. You can never have 61'. Even if it was a valid coordinate, it'd be calculated to E042 61.130 and entered as 04261130. You can't zero pad the minutes. If more figures are required by the CDU, you'd zero pad at the end if anything. You see in the example that it ends up all wrong, with 6' instead of 61' (SIC!). I assume the CDU was reluctant to swallow 61 minutes of arc... :) If we instead assume the valid coordinate E043 01' 07.8", it translates to E043 01.130. Try entering that one. I'll try to check how it works later tonight. Basic formula is valid though: DD MM SS.ssss => DD MM.(SS.sss/60) Edit: jeffyd, that's the one discussed above. You might want to clean up the calcs? Edited March 1, 2011 by effte ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
Snoopy Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Snoopy, great visual guide but I don't understand the whole formula thing. Wouldn't .3146 round to .310, not.342? Also for the long coordinates, how did you get 04206140 from the original coordinates? I can only see where the first two numbers came from on that one Thanks The formulas don't work out exactly in the guide because I wanted new folks to our V Squadron to be able to put in the correct coordinates for the ranges. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
kingneptune117 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 ah ok. Lets say a JTAC gives me coordinates. Can I input those directly, or do I have to do a conversion with those? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci Intel i7-4790k | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo heat sink | Thermaltake Core V71 case | 750W EVGA PSU | 8gb G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 RAM | MSI Z97 Gaming 5 LGA 1150 motherboard | Samsung SSD | ASUS STRIX GTX 970 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | TIR 5 | Razer Deathadder | Corsair K70
Vecko Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Very nice video Sticky,dont forget to post if you upload more videos for CDU...;) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Aerial Operations
Sandman Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I created a conversion table for this and embedded it into my Helios profile: Much quicker/easier than fidling with calculations on the fly (literally ;)). If you have Excel it's very easy to knock up something like this for printing. Intel Core i7-950, 6GB Corsair DDR3, Nvidia GTX460 1GB, TM HOTAS Warthog, CH Rudder Pedals, Track-IR4Pro, Helios
AV8R Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Nice image Sandman, Are you using a touch panel for this, or just clicking it with your mouse?
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