Shinigami Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Hi: I recently win a price in a programming concourse of my university and I wish to upgrade my old joystick but I'm not sure of what of this two buy. Logitech G940 Force Feedback Joystick or the Saiteck X65 Pro cause the Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog is much over my budget. Which of this two you guys recommend me? Shinigami Out.. Edited March 18, 2011 by Shinigami 1 La guerra, asi como es madrastra de los cobardes, es madre de los valientes. Cervantes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Haukka81 Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Hi i have g940 and it's great setup, much better than my ex-x52pro. But just test bouth if bosible. Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Shinigami Posted March 18, 2011 Author Posted March 18, 2011 Hi i have g940 and it's great setup, much better than my ex-x52pro. But just test bouth if bosible. A friend of mine told me that it have a function like in the real choppers (is call trimer) and you can put the joystick in any pos and leave it there. Is that true???? La guerra, asi como es madrastra de los cobardes, es madre de los valientes. Cervantes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
penguin273888 Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 i think the BEST is the Thunder master A-10c wothog, simply because its joystick and throttle are both EXCACT replicas of the A-10c
penguin273888 Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog-Flight-Stick/dp/B00419ZUXS/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1300481152&sr=8-2-fkmr0 the only drawback is the $470 price tag
McDaniel Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 yep :music_whistling: go with the THUNDER MASTER WOTHOG :lol::music_whistling: sorry could not resist |AMD 7800x3D | 64GB DDR5-3600| GTX 4090 | Virpil Stick, Collectiv, WW MIP, WW Throttle, MFG Crosswind V2 | Windows 11 64-bit | SSD Samsung | 4K LG Oled 48 | Oculus Q3 | Simlab based Cockpit
DocSigma Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 neither... Easy and without question. TM Warthog. I know its expensive but if you are into sims and especially this one it is extremely worth it. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
LawnDart Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Seriously?! A poll for the best joystick for DCS: A-10C, and the HW is not even an option... :doh: [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
ShalashakaDS Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) He said its over his budget, how hard this can be to understand...? Edited March 18, 2011 by ShalashakaDS 1
LawnDart Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Oops, guilty of not reading carefully enough... just seemed _the_ obvious choice in the poll was omitted! [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
RAF74_Raptor Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 X65 but if you have the funds go for the WH you wont look back I came I saw I got blown up by a SA-8:pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.firstfighterwing.com/forums/content.php
Pyroflash Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 I have an X-65F and really like it. It has a few glitches that I am not pleased with(Programming software), but its construction is outstanding, and has more than enough buttons on it for A-10C. It does take a little getting used to the whole Think-Fly thing rather than Think-move-fly that a conventional non-force sensing stick requires. By this I mean ultimately moving the stick should require little to no extra thought or time to move a stick in a certain direction. Eventually, your aircraft will just move without you putting extra effort to move the stick in the direction you want the aircraft to go in. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
S77th-konkussion Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Well a full set of CH gear is light years ahead of and is less $ than these 2 choices in most parts of the world.. So if that applies to your neighborhood- it's a no-brainer. 1 [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
kingpinda Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 A friend of mine told me that it have a function like in the real choppers (is call trimer) and you can put the joystick in any pos and leave it there. Is that true???? Yes that is true. it has force feedback and with the DCS-Blackshark if you push the trim button and move your stick forward and let go of the trim button, the stick will stay in that position as if its the central position. Be aware though that you can't use curves or deadzones. Since curves and deadzones stay in the absolute center and not the new center the stick is in. But this was not an issue for me. I play both A-10c and blackshark with this stick and hopefully VERY VERY soon il2 CLIFFS OF DOVER!!! That is hopefully a game where this stick will shine. Because actually for high tech planes FFB is simply a minor addition. because of all the hydraulics involved it works like your power assisted steering in your car. In WW2 crates and also microsoft flight simulator FFB is MUCH MUCH more notable. For instance if you start a roll and then level out HARD, if you don't pay attention, because of the momemtum the stick will flip hard to the other side!!! Also taking off your stick will shake. In IL2 and rise of flight if you go near stall speed the stick will become limp because there are no forces working on the airelons and elvators. Also with landing you will feel the stick be looser and thus you need to be more concentrated. All in all forcefeedback in my opinion adds an extra dimension to flying. (prop planes!!) For more high tech modern planes the difference isnt that notable. So if you only plan to play A-10c then maybe a cheaper stick is an option. If you want to fly alot of prop planes/bi-planes and the like then FFB is something you really will get a kick out of :)
Haukka81 Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 A friend of mine told me that it have a function like in the real choppers (is call trimer) and you can put the joystick in any pos and leave it there. Is that true???? Yes! it's great in black shark :thumbup: Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
sofie_59 Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 It is time to start saving then! So you can buy a Warthog I just ordered my second WH And i just bought my third Cougar as backup MB:MSI X79A-GD45 CPU:Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Ram:16 gb Grafik :GTX 680 Sli Win 7 64 bit 1200 W 2 ssd 120 gb 1 2 TB western Digital Caviar Green
Feuerfalke Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 It is time to start saving then! So you can buy a Warthog I just ordered my second WH And i just bought my third Cougar as backup The difference between an X65F and the TM Warthog is about 40 Euros. But it's worlds apart from both, the G940 and the X65F. Definitely worth saving more now than regretting a hasty decision. MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
sofie_59 Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 My first warthog is faulty as in an other post. And i cant wait for TM- support for a RMA. I have been E-mailing them a lot for a replacment, sending them a lot of files even a video of my faulty keys so i just buy a new one because The warthog is simpley the best i have so far ! MB:MSI X79A-GD45 CPU:Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Ram:16 gb Grafik :GTX 680 Sli Win 7 64 bit 1200 W 2 ssd 120 gb 1 2 TB western Digital Caviar Green
Bodo Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Could you buy me one, too? :cry: Yup, I can't see how you can afford an x65f but couldn't wait a small amount of time and get a WH. Corsair 550D / Be Quiet 650W Pro 10 / ASUS P8Z77-V Pro / Intel i5 3570K / 16GB Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz / EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX2 4GB / 128GB Samsung 830 / RME HDSPe Multiface 2 / 1TB Samsung F3 / Prolimatech Megalames Rev. B / Windows 10 / BenQ XL2420T / Saitek X52 Pro / Kone Pure+ / Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja
MTFDarkEagle Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Yup, I can't see how you can afford an x65f but couldn't wait a small amount of time and get a WH. ^ That! The Warthog is such a good stick! As you've noticed from a couple of comments here :) Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
brainwashed Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Well a full set of CH gear is light years ahead of and is less $ than these 2 choices in most parts of the world.. So if that applies to your neighborhood- it's a no-brainer. Agreed. I'm setting up my CH setup now and am very impressed with it's quality. I got my full CH HOTAS with the CH Fighterstick, Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals for under $300 shipped from Amazon.
mikey Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 I don't know how bad a X65 is, but trust me, after using a G940 for a year I know for sure that there can't be anything worse than that joystick and the company that makes them. I wish I waited a couple of months and used the 300 euro's I paid for it (plus some extra) for a TM Warthog. I still regret that. Yes the complete setup is an awesome feature, I love having an HOTAS + rudder pedals, but the FFB slop in the joystick and the reversal bug in the throttle and rudder still makes this setup unbearable for the price they ask. I've got 99 problems but my Ekran ain't one
Bodo Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 I just stick with their mice.... Corsair 550D / Be Quiet 650W Pro 10 / ASUS P8Z77-V Pro / Intel i5 3570K / 16GB Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz / EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX2 4GB / 128GB Samsung 830 / RME HDSPe Multiface 2 / 1TB Samsung F3 / Prolimatech Megalames Rev. B / Windows 10 / BenQ XL2420T / Saitek X52 Pro / Kone Pure+ / Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja
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