Best Joystick for DCS

[Shinigami]

yep :music_whistling: go with the THUNDER MASTER WOTHOG :lol::music_whistling:

 

 

sorry could not resist

 

Yes the only problem is that I don't have the money:cry:

 

That's way I only put in the poll the Logitech and the Saiteck :lol:

 

shinigami out...

[MTFDarkEagle]

The WH is only a very moderate amount more expensive than the saitek. You really can't save up for a very short amount and get that damn awsome stick???

 

You won't be dissapointed with the wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shinigami]

The WH is only a very moderate amount more expensive than the saitek. You really can't save up for a very short amount and get that damn awsome stick???

 

You won't be dissapointed with the wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

From Amazon the price of the Logitech is 215$ and include also the pedals,

 

The price of The Saiteck is 320$ with out the pedals, and the pedals cost 125$

 

The TrusthMaster cost 435$ with out the pedals, the pedals cost 125$

 

Do the maths, to get a complete set of TrusthMaster I would need more than 600$.

[Bvoiash]

Can't comment on the Logitech G940 or the Thrustmaster Warthog as I have never tried any of them. But I've been using the X-65F for DCS A-10C, VRS FA-18E and other games and so far I'm happy with it. My only complaints with it are that the programming software could be better and the joystick deviate slightly off the center.

 

And Pyroflash, what glitches have you encountered with the programming software? Because I haven't had any at all with it.

[kolim]

best joystick für dcs is: thrustmaster hotas warthog :)

[Nkelly]

Hmmm i wonder if the WH is anygood :D

[Zakatak]

I've heard bad things about both of the option in that poll, sir.

 

G940 is... well, I liked it too but everyone else is shouting "NO! GAY!" at me so I avoided it.

 

X65F sounds bleh, mainly because of the force sensing gimmick that is really disorientating and hard to use in a dogfight.

[shu77]

I have to admit all I hear is negative stuff about both choices too. Im assuming you have them because they are both cheaper dual throttle options then the Warthog. To be honest I thought not having a dual throttle would matter, but find that since its unnecessary to trim the engines I only ever turn the engines on and off by keyboard and dont notice it the rest of the time. I have heard bad things about the throttle on the X-65 though, and at least you get pedals with the 940.

[Haggart]

Force sensing a bad gimick? No sir, I'm using force sensing in my cougar for nearly two years now and love it so much I'm only using the warthog throttle in combination with my cougar. It's way more precise and a better control feeling for me. But I believe thats personal feeling and experience.

The G940 just... feels bad, but I only tested it in stores. But I assume Logitech is unable to get to the real sim market - the G940 is a product for people gaming, with nice touchy lighted buttons and a "WHRUMBL" when you touch down.

The X65F-Throttle and Stick - they both feel plastical (is that the adverb to "plastic"?), but it's... okay. And even more, they don't try to flood their Hotas with additional buttons on the throttle base. I mean, yeah, the warthog has, but the Wh-throttle is an 1-to-1-replica out of the Wh-pit, so it feels the real deal, and if that's not possible because you want to address a bigger market, simplicity gets your the better feeling. And of course, the force sensing in the X65 feels harder and more precise than any other HOTAS (Thrustmaster products excluded ;) ).

 

Recomendation, if someon is going to buy a hotas, he should buy an X65, try the Force sensing and if it doesn't feel good, he could use the 14-day-exchange-right. Right?

[juankeiko]

Hi:

 

I recently win a price in a programming concourse of my university and I wish to upgrade my old joystick but I'm not sure of what of this two buy.

 

Logitech G940 Force Feedback Joystick or the Saiteck X65 Pro

 

cause the Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog is much over my budget.

 

Which of this two you guys recommend me?

 

Shinigami Out..

 

do not buy either. Buy the Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog. It is better by far, the quality, robustness, and it's a real replica of A10C warthog.:thumbup:

[Gembrid]

i take logitech G940

[leafer]

Out of those two you'd be better off with the Saitek. You should do a search on G940. Yikes!

[Succellus]

Dual throttle isn t that usefull until you start using the diferencial on turns....

I understand your problem Shinigani, i had to pay more than 700 usd to import the thing due to taxation and fret.

The only warning i would give is the mumber of complaints about the g940.

Edited July 19, 2011 by Succellus

[EtherealN]

X65F sounds bleh, mainly because of the force sensing gimmick that is really disorientating and hard to use in a dogfight.

 

Not a "gimmick", actual function used in several fighter jets. Just takes some time to get used to.

[EtherealN]

Dual throttle isn t that usefull until you start using the diferencial on turns....

 

I don't agree with this. It is extremely useful in fingertip, aerial refueling, and landing. It essentially doubles the precision with which you can set your thrust component since you can "nudge" one engine instead of both. (In fact, in training it is common to "walk the throttles" when learning precision flying.)

 

It might seem like a minor thing, but there's a reason why it's used. The question in a sim environment is of course whether it's useful enough to you to merit the extra expense. In my case the answer was "definitely". Others depending on how and why and how much they fly, and of course how much disposable income they have available for expensive hobbies instead of family, food and such stuff, might cause the value judgement to change.

 

I'm unsure about which I'd recommend of the two sticks in that case, possibly the Saitek. The G940 is just frightening in it's failure rate from what I've seen, but I don't like Saitek drivers either (flakier than Windows ME!)...

[Succellus]

Well i used to use the trottle to compensate for the turn of the hog on the ground when i had no pedals... so its usefull.

I haven t done any precision flyng, but i like it to tight turn too.

[EtherealN]

I don't see how it'll help much in tight turns, assuming you are in the air. A tight turn will have such a high bank angle that it really won't help much - and might even be a problem through the assymetric thrust component causing you to fly the turn "unclean" unless you counter it with adjusted pedal input - which makes the prasatic drag component larger.

 

I'm slightly unsure though since I've not flown twins IRL so I never had cause to really look at how that averages out.

[Succellus]

You can do tighter turns, require practice but it works. Most for fancy, you dont want tight turn over a sam or shrilka

[emenance]

I did extensive research on what was out there around Jan 2011 and The TM really was a disapointment . Sure it seems to be stable now and that great. For my budjet I choose the G940 and made it a hobby to play with it. I have not experienced huge problems with the setup after some hours of tweaking and reading ALL the threads and resources on it. I havent opened it up to loosen the wire but like here there are people in the world that have had great success with it and so far it is performing in an acceptable manor. BUT Logitech really should have finalized the concerns of the community and we will not forget how they treated the flight sim gaming industry.

[oritpro]

This thread sounds like an infomercial for the TM Warthog. :D

 

My experience with the X65F has been nothing but positive. In fact, I wouldn't go back to a regular stick if it was autographed by Chuck Yeager himself. The only thing that feels "plasticky gimmicky" about it is the plasticky gimmicky panels in front of the throttle, the rest is pure awesomeness.

[Succellus]

I did extensive research on what was out there around Jan 2011 and The TM really was a disapointment . Sure it seems to be stable now and that great. For my budjet I choose the G940 and made it a hobby to play with it. I have not experienced huge problems with the setup after some hours of tweaking and reading ALL the threads and resources on it. I havent opened it up to loosen the wire but like here there are people in the world that have had great success with it and so far it is performing in an acceptable manor. BUT Logitech really should have finalized the concerns of the community and we will not forget how they treated the flight sim gaming industry.

 

Though the same as you when it was around January even bitting myself for having bought it due to the bricking.

But when i received it in February, damn! I flipped to the other side.

From far the best stick i ever had. Would buy it again if i had to.

So glad i had it that for the first time i really found the need to built a (budget)mock pit, it really deserve it.

[kingpinda]

Almost 4 years later and i'm still rocking my Logitech G940. Did have to repair my Throttle because of dials spiking. cost me 10 bucks. Put in an extention cable because the stock cable is too short and pulls on the circuitry.

 

Did remove the big ass spring in my pedals but next week the MFG Crosswind is arriving.

 

All in all the joystick itself is in good working order and I really can't fly without force feedback ever again. If the joystick itself keeps working properly my money has been well spent all these years. I don't care if I need to replace the throttle and or rudder. But my stick will be cremated with me!

[Rogue Trooper]

I voted warthog