What if the R-27EA ...

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

1_ This missile has an active head, which allows to hook the target and follow its course only if you are in a range of 25 Km away from the target? and meanwhile arrives this distance the missile must be guided to reach the active area where the screw head?

 

Regard's

 

Hi Manfrez,

 

When it comes to the R-27EA missile seeker, locking and terminal navigation/tracking, works exactly the same as R-77. I don't know what is the effective mad-dog (launch without a lock) distance, but it is the same as R-77.

 

Honestly I don't know what the distance is to target when missile seeker locks the target and homes itself during the terminal phase of missile flight.

[revalence]

I want someone to mod the AIM-9x then and add that into this joint mod if possible .

 

 

Bezcl did a wonderful AIM-9X model for DCS Black Shark and Lock On FC 1.12. IT's still on his website.

[Cali]

Bezcl did a wonderful AIM-9X model for DCS Black Shark and Lock On FC 1.12. IT's still on his website.

 

Did it use the R-73 model, just re-skinned? How did it work? Did it slew like the R-73 and helmet on the Russian jets?

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Bezcl did a wonderful AIM-9X model for DCS Black Shark and Lock On FC 1.12. IT's still on his website.

AIM-9X could use R-73 seeker. I don't see any problem with that.

[Cali]

But how would it work slewing it with your helmet, since you can't do that with the F-15.

[Sov13t]

Jeez... what a can of worms.

 

Proper deployment of active missiles on OPFOR birds is borked in FC2 no matter what missile they are firing. No TTI no TTA... and once again a thread about OPFOR weapons/aircraft turns into AIM-9X, MICAs and other James Bond gadgetry. :music_whistling:

[FLANKERATOR]

But how would it work slewing it with your helmet, since you can't do that with the F-15.

 

I see the vertical mode as the only solution to get an off boresight radar lock with the F-15..still not sure if you can slave the AIM9X to the radar, since there is no EOS override...

 

Jeez... what a can of worms.

 

Proper deployment of active missiles on OPFOR birds is borked in FC2 no matter what missile they are firing. No TTI no TTA... and once again a thread about OPFOR weapons/aircraft turns into AIM-9X, MICAs and other James Bond gadgetry. :music_whistling:

 

Well am seeing the thing positively, what's wrong in making the most of the best mods already released and include them online, as long as it keeps carrying good sense. Crunch's idea about a superpack mod is really interesting, we want new scenarios, new challenges... new fun.

[Cali]

Jeez... what a can of worms.

 

Proper deployment of active missiles on OPFOR birds is borked in FC2 no matter what missile they are firing. No TTI no TTA... and once again a thread about OPFOR weapons/aircraft turns into AIM-9X, MICAs and other James Bond gadgetry. :music_whistling:

 

I just ask since were adding missiles that were never used. I have no problem if the real missile was in production and actually used or if the 27 could fire R-77. That's all fine with me, if that is so, but when we start adding things. Well of course I'm gonna want things that another jet has and is in use. :smilewink:

[VAOZoky]

I agree with Cali. For sake of balance we need modernised SU27 that can cary R77 and Migs with better radar(that can shoot 2 targets at same time) not some fantasy R27-EA. Then we need "dead is dead" mod and not some cheats like leavu :doh:. Then FC2 will be better for all of us :smilewink:

[prok]

There is an evidence from authoritative source, about R-27AE.

(Fighter Su-27. The history beginning)

 

in "two words":

This rocket never got constructed. It was only draft design and plans.

All experiences was used later in next project (R-77)

[Pilotasso]

I agree with Cali. For sake of balance we need modernised SU27 that can cary R77 and Migs with better radar(that can shoot 2 targets at same time) not some fantasy R27-EA. Then we need "dead is dead" mod and not some cheats like leavu :doh:. Then FC2 will be better for all of us :smilewink:

 

 

Very few migs actually have that capability, certainly not the Mig29A/S. Also bear in mind "dead is dead" mod is not realistic either. There are accounts of multiple missile hits required to bring down a fighter, specially when using infra red missiles. Also this mod has been concieved to balance F-15's lethality however it was never proved that any missile was more effective than others hiting their targets, simply because they are modeled exactly the same with only different blast radius.

[GGTharos]

No, dead is dead was conceived because people cared more about shooting down the other guy with their wounded aircraft than trying to save it.

[Cali]

No, dead is dead was conceived because people cared more about shooting down the other guy with their wounded aircraft than trying to save it.

 

That's cause this is a game and people don't care if they die or not. How many times have people been low on fuel and weapons and still pushed in to try to get a kill. Like GG said sometimes 1 missile doesn't kill the bandit.

[Presing]

MиГ-29с or MiG-29s have TWS full capability tracking 10 and engaging 2 targets simultaneously. Here is one site you could read Pilotasso. http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/MiG-29.htm

[RIPTIDE]

^^

[Boberro]

Yeah and it has deflector shields like USS Enterprise :)

[Presing]

^^

 

 

This is off topic compliantly but what fighter aircraft fly for air cover over Ireland? :music_whistling:

Edited May 6, 2011 by Presing

[159th_Viper]

This is off topic compliantly but what fighter aircraft fly for air cover over Ireland? :music_whistling:

 

Northern Ireland - RAF (Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4)

 

Republic of Ireland - Irish Air Corps (No fighters)

Edited May 6, 2011 by 159th_Viper

[RIPTIDE]

This is off topic compliantly but what fighter aircraft fly for air cover over Ireland? :music_whistling:

None. Nothing too important to invade us for. :P

[Pilotasso]

MиГ-29с or MiG-29s have TWS full capability tracking 10 and engaging 2 targets simultaneously. Here is one site you could read Pilotasso. http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/MiG-29.htm

 

off from the factory, no they didnt. Only after extensive modifications.

India upgraded their mig-29A's but they retained almost nothing from the A or S variants except the hulls.

Same for the few SMT's rejected by Algeria, or the Mig-29N of malaysia.

 

The original Mig-29A and S variants can only shoot 1 R-27R at only 1 target at a time.

[Sov13t]

The original Mig-29A and S variants can only shoot 1 R-27R at only 1 target at a time.

 

You are wrong on the S variant. You are correct on the 29A.

[VAOZoky]

The original Mig-29A and S variants can only shoot 1 R-27R at only 1 target at a time.

 

Same could be said for F15

[RIPTIDE]

Same could be said for F15

Don't think the F15 can shoot R-27R.

[Frostie]

off from the factory, no they didnt. Only after extensive modifications.

India upgraded their mig-29A's but they retained almost nothing from the A or S variants except the hulls.

Same for the few SMT's rejected by Algeria, or the Mig-29N of malaysia.

 

The original Mig-29A and S variants can only shoot 1 R-27R at only 1 target at a time.

Whats your point ? Show me an aircraft built in the early 80's off the production line that could fire medium range ARH ?

 

Also please show me some information that points to the N-019M TOPAZ not engaging two targets at the same time using TWS, every piece of info I can find says otherwise, this is the very radar that the 29S uses in FC2.

The Slot array version (N019) is unable which is the base 29A radar.

[RIPTIDE]

Whats your point ? Show me an aircraft built in the early 80's off the production line that could fire medium range ARH ?

 

Also please show me some information that points to the N-019M TOPAZ not engaging two targets at the same time using TWS, every piece of info I can find says otherwise, this is the very radar that the 29S uses in FC2.

The Slot array version (N019) is unable which is the base 29A radar.

Well the F14 would have been able as one exception for example.

EDIT: Ninja edit there. sorry.