104th Server R-77 For Su-27 & MiG-29G NATO Mod!

[Case]

Server was busy like hell tonight, a big furball, only same drawback as usual when air bases get busy, some racing, overtaking and taking off from taxiways...I really hope something would be done to prevent reckless behaving like that....Other than that, it was AWESOME ;)

 

Are there other people that can share what it was like? I'm curious to hear more opinions.

[Frostie]

Again the GAF MiG scenario is fictional, but based on the fact it WOULD be possible for german engineers to make such a upgrade besides the ICAO II standard, what they have anyway (and we are not talking about a lasergun upgrade lol), for the GAF MiG if NEEDED.....

 

http://i51.tinypic.com/2441bnm.jpg

 

And, someone pointed it out already, germany send his miggys to poland already, soo, to stay realistic again lol, we would need to erase the german mig out of FC2.0, or activate the polish nation for FC2.0....LOL

 

all about realism...

Even if it was possible im sure if the Luftwaffe got called to war in Georgia the last thing would be to waste precious time and resources in making an outdated fighter AMRAAM capable when they already have much more capable Tornado's and Typhoon's.

Just be honest, its a pretty personal mod and has nothing to do with realism, there is no harm in admitting that.

 

 

 

No u cant Zoky lol, LEAVU mfd's for my homebuild cockpit can´t be used, it is not accepted in the community and blocked by export.lua...

 

all about realism..;)

I think you'll find the general consensus regarding LEAVU and why its not accepted is to do with security and nothing to do on whether its realistic or not. If you need to use a tissue I have loads.

[Presing]

Yes it can with the Su-27 maddog launch.

 

It's not maddog you get authorization.

 

I will make my statement it's little bit harsh but i think it's simple, you like it come to play it if you do not like it do not come to play it. Do not get me wrong but this is becoming big flame war.

 

Best regards

Presing

[RIPTIDE]

It's not maddog you get authorization.

 

True. But for a EOS authorized lock with a 77 you are depending on the missile seeker jumping on the target when it goes off the rails. Personally I always engage the radar for the launch if I can.

[Cali]

Add me to the list of guys having "server ping timeouts" and "connection interrupted" over and over, you aren't being kicked, it's a european-to-server connection issue.

 

Not just a Europe issue, I'm in the US and I can't even see the server anymore. I tried to connect via IP last night and the mission was paused for me. When I did get into a jet I got a server ping time out.

[HiJack]

Are there other people that can share what it was like? I'm curious to hear more opinions.

It was good. To many with ECM on and difficult to sort out friend from foe. Always great at the 104th server. Great with the new R-77 MOD! (whisper: don't tell RIPTIDE) :lol:

[manfrez01]

"104th Server R-77 For Su-27 & MiG-29G NATO Mod" !

+1.

Congratulations on this work .

 

The Mod's are the opportunity for the community, of enrichment a simulator, which for commercial reasons not evolved enough to satisfy a growing community and demanding.

[MoGas]

Even if it was possible im sure if the Luftwaffe got called to war in Georgia the last thing would be to waste precious time and resources in making an outdated fighter AMRAAM capable when they already have much more capable Tornado's and Typhoon's.

Just be honest, its a pretty personal mod and has nothing to do with realism, there is no harm in admitting that.

 

I think you'll find the general consensus regarding LEAVU and why its not accepted is to do with security and nothing to do on whether its realistic or not. If you need to use a tissue I have loads.

 

Yes you are right, read my first post in this topic, I said, we have no EF`s or F-4F`s for A2A roles in FC2.0, thats why it was taken in my case. And it is and was on my request, as Crunch said already.

 

Well, I guess we had endless chats about LEAVU in the original topic, and there are been alot of doubts are stated as well if it is real or not, and why ED dosent have used it for the patch etc. etc, and I believe it was there already enough said about, and we should not carry on in this topic, what would be off topic here are anyway.

Edited May 8, 2011 by MoGas

[GGTharos]

Because they didn't create it, and they don't want to support code external to the game, which is the correct business choice. That's all there is to it.

 

Well, I guess we had endless chats about LEAVU in the original topic, and there are been alot of doubts are stated as well if it is real or not, and why ED dosent have used it for the patch

[Teknetinium]

This mod doesn't add or decrease the realism. there is no difference of Su-27 using the R-77 to Mig-29S. neither of the airplane have the impact countdown or pitbull designation.

 

This is more realistic scenario in my opinion if u would fight soviet birds now days.

[prok]

Good valid MOD, for good valid players.

Respect. Riptide.

This is already step forward.

We will try to support this feature among Russian community.

[MoGas]

Because they didn't create it, and they don't want to support code external to the game, which is the correct business choice. That's all there is to it.

 

for example, and the worries about export.lua, what we all would have avoided by the integration of a modman package, I believe includeing the tacview and LEAVU but this was not made either. Finally it was proven anyway that if someone wants to hack he hacks, even with the IC on, its a fact, and I guess you all know it as well, what I mean.

Edited May 8, 2011 by MoGas

[GGTharos]

I know a bunch of stuff, but not exactly what you mean.

 

There are no issues with export.lua - it will only export local things if you set it to do so. People were up in arms with LEAVU not over security, but over datalink. Tacview is a different matter as it requires all exports to be enabled.

 

There were security issues with the export in FC1. That was different.

[MoGas]

I know a bunch of stuff, but not exactly what you mean.

 

There are no issues with export.lua - it will only export local things if you set it to do so. People were up in arms with LEAVU not over security, but over datalink. Tacview is a different matter as it requires all exports to be enabled.

 

There were security issues with the export in FC1. That was different.

 

sorry for my bad english, I mean, the fear, what was stated about LEAVU and the fact that export.lua would be unchecked by IC, otherwise you are been falling on the IC if you would like to use it on joining a server.

 

Soo, if we would have agreed on a modman package, the bigger online server for example with the modified export.lua where LEAVU and tacview would be included, you would still check export.lua and if someone would change something, he cant pass the IC then...

[VAOZoky]

Who wants LEAVU:doh:? I want true TWS on my mig29s that can shoot 2 targets at same time:helpsmilie:

[RIPTIDE]

Who wants LEAVU:doh:? I want true TWS on my mig29s that can shoot 2 targets at same time:helpsmilie:

But you can fly F-15C and shoot at 4 targets via TWS. Even better than 2. :)

[Cali]

I want LEAVU, so I can make u cry. :D

[Pilotasso]

But you can fly F-15C and shoot at 4 targets via TWS. Even better than 2. :)

 

Currently it can shoot 8 at the same time. :)

[GGTharos]

sorry for my bad english, I mean, the fear, what was stated about LEAVU and the fact that export.lua would be unchecked by IC, otherwise you are been falling on the IC if you would like to use it on joining a server.

 

Soo, if we would have agreed on a modman package, the bigger online server for example with the modified export.lua where LEAVU and tacview would be included, you would still check export.lua and if someone would change something, he cant pass the IC then...

 

Ah, I understand :) Yep, that makes sense.

 

Who wants LEAVU:doh:? I want true TWS on my mig29s that can shoot 2 targets at same time:helpsmilie:

 

I want LEAVU, and so do a whole bunch of other people. Not sure how you can justify the other mods and then while about LEAVU.

[RIPTIDE]

Anyway. Lets get back on track. There are plenty of previous threads.. epic threads about LEAVU and some other stuff. This thread is specifically about the 104th server and the addition of the aforementioned mods and weapons load.

[104th_Maverick]

oh and I will not be flying in server that has this crap that's for sure and I'm also sure others will not follow

 

Well don't worry mate you won't be missed anyway.

 

And just to let you know the server has been very busy over the past couple of nights and people are having a great time.... and we didn't lose the plot, it was our to give away :smilewink:

 

104th_Maverick

[HiJack]

Well the R-77 missile brings something new (for me at least) and it must be learned and mastered. I think it is a good addon for the Su-27 and brings more life to the server again. How long I will be playing this is all up to ED's plans for FC2.

[Kuky]

;1193640']Well don't worry mate you won't be missed anyway.

 

And just to let you know the server has been very busy over the past couple of nights and people are having a great time.... and we didn't lose the plot, it was our to give away :smilewink:

 

104th_Maverick

 

oh that's good, cause I was getting worried and couldn't sleep because you are having so much fun and I am missing out on it :music_whistling:

[FLANKERATOR]

No, it cannot, and frankly I don't care what you think or where you get your info from.

 

Likewise, but at least my source is crystal clear, yours is very dubious and outdated.

 

You're up against information coming directly from operators.

Show us your source, and frankly I could tell you am Anatoly kvochur, that would be as irrelevant as your statement :)

 

You will not find a Su-27S/SK with the cockpit as you see it now, capable of delivering R-77, period, end of story. You just cling to this idea for your own reasons.

Go tell that to Knaapo is you want to argue more about that, am very happy with my Flanker right now because it feels much more realistic ;)

I could already have R-77's on the MiG-29S before, so not a big deal in term of combat effectiveness. It's just a good feeling, period, end of story.

 

You're still the one babbling Such changes -always- have some effect on balance.

To understand there is no effect on the game balance on an open server, you would need to increase your flight hours more than your forum hours.

 

Or would you now say that the tweaks made for FC2 had no effect on balance?

Increasing the AMRAAM range by 15km, downgrading the R-27ET, decreasing the refresh rate of the Russian radars, increasing the ECM burn-trough distance are all examples of tweaks affecting the game balance and significantly coming from 1.12 version.

Adding R-77's on Su-27 does not affect the game balance whats so ever, same story for 120B's (re-skined R-77) on Mig-29G.

 

 

It isn't realistic, and it does affect balance.

See similar explanation from Tek about realism and balance in relation with this Mod, if you still missing the point.

 

This mod doesn't add or decrease the realism. there is no difference of Su-27 using the R-77 to Mig-29S. neither of the airplane have the impact countdown or pitbull designation.

 

This is more realistic scenario in my opinion if u would fight soviet birds now days.

 

 

It does now.

Who said that...operators again??

[Pilotasso]

I think we should take this elsewhere. ^^^^