fael097's a-10c CHEAP cockpit build

[Deadman]

I looked at it. You made it 5.75 wide originally i would estimate. The hole spacing, and size is wrong. The white back lighting areas are wrong. Size type and placement of fonts is wrong.Your diamentions are still incorrect this is a very complicated panel. You may wish to start off on some thing a bit more simple like the Stall warning panel

[Cali]

Wow Stang, you got the fonts wrong and the hole size! :D What were you thinking, some of you guys take getting everything correct WAY too far. I understand doing something right, but so what if your off by 1/2 an inch. It's a game, I'd leave it the way it is, it looks good to me.....unless you want everything perfect.

 

EDIT: I thought we were here to help each other... :(

Edited May 16, 2011 by Cali

[Deadman]

HI Cali well if its a 1/2 inch out a wack. I thought it would be obvious it wont fit in a scales pit. You amaze me the several time i have asked you for basic help being your a crew chief questions on scale all I got was NO can't help you LOL now your one to scold.

 

STANG asked for commits in his other thread he posted againg here so i replied here so the boys would not have to search for the answer no problem I'll keep my mouth shut

 

 

 

Wow Stang, you got the fonts wrong and the hole size! :D What were you thinking, some of you guys take getting everything correct WAY too far. I understand doing something right, but so what if your off by 1/2 an inch. It's a game, I'd leave it the way it is, it looks good to me.....unless you want everything perfect.

 

EDIT: I thought we were here to help each other... :(

[PanelBuilder]

STANG asked for commits in his other thread he posted againg here so i replied here so the boys would not have to search for the answer no problem I'll keep my mouth shut

Please don't.

[Gadroc]

Deadman,

 

You're knowledge is valuable, please don't disengage. It is really hard to judge tone and intent via text alone. I know at times I have mis-interpreted some comments as snide before when they where not intended that way.

 

For those posting your work it is important that you state what you are going for. There are many different goals for personal cockpits. There are those who are aiming for a dimensionally accurate panels and some who are designing them to fit the space they have. Some strive for intense accuracy down to the color of the back lighting. If you are not clear and post something that is close to accurate it stands to reason those who have additional knowledge on accurate will assume you want it and chime in.

 

We as a community are limited in the knowledge that we each have. There is not absolute source of information and blueprints for us to work off of. If we do not try and pool our knowledge it will take forever for us to accomplish anything.

[Flim]

By the time you guys figure the panel dims out I will have an entire pit built and working! Lol

[fael097]

By the time you guys figure the panel dims out I will have an entire pit built and working! Lol

Agreed.

 

thats why I work with estimatives :)

[y2kiah]

By the time you guys figure the panel dims out I will have an entire pit built and working! Lol

 

lol, true but somebody had to figure those panel dims out first

 

Deadman has already generously given a lot of good information here, just search the forums. Not everything will be spoon fed, sometimes you have to take what you know, and derive the rest from it. And yes, you definitely have to stop tweaking at some point and say this is close enough.

[Flim]

Y2kiah, true true... lol

[Cali]

HI Cali well if its a 1/2 inch out a wack. I thought it would be obvious it wont fit in a scales pit. You amaze me the several time i have asked you for basic help being your a crew chief questions on scale all I got was NO can't help you LOL now your one to scold.

 

STANG asked for commits in his other thread he posted againg here so i replied here so the boys would not have to search for the answer no problem I'll keep my mouth shut

 

When and what did you ask me about crew chief stuff? I'm not a CC but I have helped people out before and will do in the future. If it was in the last few months, I have been moving and probably forgot. But I have helped a lot of people with answers about air force stuff. What did you want to know?

 

I don't know if he is making a scale pit or just a pit in general. I have a general pit and could care less about if something is perfect, he and other may be different.

Edited May 16, 2011 by Cali

[fael097]

Stang,

 

5.75 total width seems about right, thats almost precisely 146mm

about the thickness, I read it somewhere in this forums, but right now I just can't find it... lol sorry

 

I believe the material is up to you, and to your budget. acrylic seemed about right for me, it manages backlighting just great when sanded, and should be relatively easy to cut!

 

not sure if it helps :P

 

Rafael

[Deadman]

This must be one of those hard to judge post, I read it as arrogant and mocking,and irritating. Flim you are as usual incorrect

 

By the time you guys figure the panel dims out I will have an entire pit built and working! Lol

 

Deadman,

 

You're knowledge is valuable, please don't disengage. It is really hard to judge tone and intent via text alone. I know at times I have mis-interpreted some comments as snide before when they where not intended that way.

 

For those posting your work it is important that you state what you are going for. There are many different goals for personal cockpits. There are those who are aiming for a dimensionally accurate panels and some who are designing them to fit the space they have. Some strive for intense accuracy down to the color of the back lighting. If you are not clear and post something that is close to accurate it stands to reason those who have additional knowledge on accurate will assume you want it and chime in.

 

We as a community are limited in the knowledge that we each have. There is not absolute source of information and blueprints for us to work off of. If we do not try and pool our knowledge it will take forever for us to accomplish anything.

There are several sources of knowledge and you guys have pissed this one and at least one other off but i think you have figured that out by now. Enough of this there really is not any thing else to say.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1186791&postcount=103

Edited May 17, 2011 by Deadman
spelling context

[Flim]

This must be one of those hard to judge post, I read it as arrogant and mocking,and irritating. Flim you are as usual incorrect

 

 

 

 

There are several sources of knowledge and you guys have pissed this one and at least one other off but i think you have figured that out by now. Enough of this there really is not any thing else to say.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1186791&postcount=103

 

 

I'm grumpy sometimes, but... arrogant, mocking, irritating, and Incorrect. Hell, you could have added some more adjectives... Thanks Deadman!

 

On a serious note: I will have access to a full A-10A simulator this weekend, and I can measure parts if someone needs dims. Let me know what you want if anything,

 

Flim

Edited May 17, 2011 by Flim

[PanelBuilder]

On a serious note: I will have access to a full A-10A simulator this weekend, and I can measure parts if someone needs dims. Let me know what you want if anything,

Flim

If we could get the *depth* of the MFCD bezels that would be super. That's just a hard dim to figure from 2D pics.

Thanks Flim,

Colin

[Flim]

I would , but this is an earlier model A-10, not the C. I'm going to jog down what I can.

[PanelBuilder]

I would , but this is an earlier model A-10, not the C. I'm going to jog down what I can.

Ah, I missed the A part. Have fun anyway :-)

 

Colin

[Deadman]

sounds fun Let me know if the owner is looking for a weapons panel i happen to have an extra one :thumbup:

[PanelBuilder]

I will have access to a full A-10A simulator this weekend, and I can measure parts if someone needs dims. Let me know what you want if anything,

Flim

Hi. Do you think you could get the diams of the handles of those 4 push-pull switches at the bottom right of the Fuel Panel? I'm a bit confused about those. Thanks much,

Colin

[fael097]

guys, any idea what's the distance between left and right console?

like the ejection seat width...

thanks

[m0jo]

guys, any idea what's the distance between left and right console?

like the ejection seat width...

thanks

The A-10C is using a similar seat to the F-16, the mesurement are probably somewhere in the ACESII section of viperpits.org

[fael097]

thanks folks, really appreciate!

 

btw, nice work on that seat, stang

[Cali]

They are the basically the same seat, at different angles and some have a few different little things added.

[fael097]

ok, finally some (little) progress.

 

while my GGG usb board doesn't arrive, I'm wiring my switches to an old usb joystick wich has 4 axis, 12 buttons and a POV hat.

 

I finally bought the acrylic plate, though I only found 3mm. guess I'll sand the base plate down until it's 1,5mm thick. the light plate is fine with 2 plates of 3mm each. base plate is gonna be 146mm wide, and light plate 144mm. this is the most accurate approach I can handle, achieved this measure after recalculating all dimensions.

 

 

now my only doubt is about the width. didn't find any specific measures for the LASTE panel, so I did it based on pics. right now the base plate have 49mm, while the light plate is 47mm, altough I have no idea if this is any accurate.

 

anybody knows?

 

thanks!

[metalnwood]

Hi Guys

 

Check the bottom of my picture page. I have some shots of the real thing with a measuring tape on them. Let me know if you need any other Aces Seat dimensions...I have all of them

 

See HERE

 

:thumbup:

 

Oh, almost forgot...there is .75 inches between the side of the seat and the side panels, so just add 1.50 to the seat width and you have the width between the side panels in the A-10C and the F-16.

 

Stang, I would also really like the plans for a seat if it's possible. I have just finished my CNC lately and it is waiting and ready to do one :)

[fael097]

hey stang, thanks, but those measures i already know, im looking for the unique lets say lenght, (if the 146mm is width). im using 49mm for LASTE panel height, but thats guessing. each panel has its own height, those are unique measures.

 

thanks again