BOPrey Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 After give this issue some more thought, it might be possible that ED is in it too. After all, ED needs to put the game in stores. NP is a good start point; but who knows NP. It might be that sales through NP is not doing as expected, and ED needs an extra push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt40Five Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 IIRC This LockOn:Gold was listed at EB with the 1.1 info BEFORE NP started shipping FC. I remember because I cancelled my NP order to see how the whole thing played out. So if ED is in on it they have been planning this since the beginning. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOPrey Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Then, all of us bought the NP verion or the download version have been ripped off. :rolleyes: Now should I be mad :icon_evil at ED? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 Does anyone know anyone in the ED team and could PM them to clear up this confusion? Because they should know the answer whether this is an official copy or not. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOPrey Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 SwingKid in the beta test team should know, and also Stormin should have some connection with ED as well. The fact that these people are not saying anything is either they don't want to come forward or ED is keeping their mouths shut. Either way, I think ED is doing the right thing because ED is going to get hurt (finacially or in reputation or both) when comming forward. Regardless if ED is in it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmut Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I also confirm that it does include 1.1. (i just bought it, woohoo take that direct internet download and 5 dollar shipping&handling fees) is it 2CD set? could you post here a screenshot of disks content, like Explorer windows screenshot or similar? "There are five dangerous faults which may affect a general: recklessness, which leads to destruction; cowardice, which leads to capture; a hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults; a delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame; over-solicitude for his men, which exposes him to worry and trouble." Sun Tzu [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic2354_5.gif[/sigpic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruggbutt Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 It's 2 CD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 is it 2CD set? could you post here a screenshot of disks content, like Explorer windows screenshot or similar? You could check out the screenshots here on the ubi forum. Its near the middle of the page by Coug68. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/99610606/m/4771042243 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
609_Recon Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Since he got a code - does that mean he doesn't need the cd to run the game vs. the cd from naturalpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I have no official confirmation from TFC/ED but I'm betting that this was authorized. But... let's remember that I don't speak for them and I await the official word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmut Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 You could check out the screenshots here on the ubi forum. Its near the middle of the page by Coug68. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/99610606/m/4771042243 Yes, I saw those, but I meant screenshots of disk content, like file and folders. "There are five dangerous faults which may affect a general: recklessness, which leads to destruction; cowardice, which leads to capture; a hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults; a delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame; over-solicitude for his men, which exposes him to worry and trouble." Sun Tzu [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic2354_5.gif[/sigpic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt40Five Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 you know the more I think about it, the more it makes sense that ED is involved in this. They could have worked out a deal whereby they are allowed to market FC as an add-on for a limited period of time at limited outlets (DL, NP), and then after it's made all the money it can (with max profit margin for ED) in that time frame, it is boxed and sold at a REDUCED price on Major store shelves so that Ubi (the owner of LOMAC in the US) can get its cut. According to other published rumors...Ubi's deal with ED covered only 1 add-on, but there's no sense if there are going to be TWO add-ons that ubi wouldn't want some of the potential money that could generate. I mean why else own a license? And I doubt ED would turn down the possibility of making some extra $$$ from a North American shelf release. What sux here is that, if ED is in on it, they have taken a huge dump on their most loyal fans with the higher priced "advance" copies. If they aren't in on it I hope they can defend themselves. What I hope most of all is that they will get their heads out of their asses and come clean to this community! I swear ,language barrier aside, they have got to get a handle on customer relations or all the eye-candy in the world isn't going to save them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflagg Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 you know the more I think about it, the more it makes sense that ED is involved in this. They could have worked out a deal whereby they are allowed to market FC as an add-on for a limited period of time at limited outlets (DL, NP), and then after it's made all the money it can (with max profit margin for ED) in that time frame, it is boxed and sold at a REDUCED price on Major store shelves so that Ubi (the owner of LOMAC in the US) can get its cut. According to other published rumors...Ubi's deal with ED covered only 1 add-on, but there's no sense if there are going to be TWO add-ons that ubi wouldn't want some of the potential money that could generate. I mean why else own a license? And I doubt ED would turn down the possibility of making some extra $$$ from a North American shelf release. What sux here is that, if ED is in on it, they have taken a huge dump on their most loyal fans with the higher priced "advance" copies. If they aren't in on it I hope they can defend themselves. What I hope most of all is that they will get their heads out of their asses and come clean to this community! I swear ,language barrier aside, they have got to get a handle on customer relations or all the eye-candy in the world isn't going to save them. Because we all own the game already and price fluctuations will occur overtime. I really don't think there is a conspiracy going on. If this other company is selling LO:FC to BestBuy to sell, frankly it's non of my concern and chance a good this other company has a deal with ED. If not, who cares? ED will sue and that will be that. Thanks, Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt40Five Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 when the first questions about this gold release came up, NP had not yet shipped any copies of FC. So if ED was involved with this release at that time (please remember they were on the forums saying this title was NOT 1.1) It was a blatant deception to induce people to buy at a higher price point. If they had come out back then and said..o yeah that title on EBgames is 1.1, and yeah it's $30, and yes you could just walk into a store and buy it in a few months...do you think very many people would have bought from NP? but until ED decides to weigh in on this it's all speculation... from these forums 4/22/05 Guys, Just so you know. We at NaturalPoint were wondering the same thing about this so called Lock On: Gold. I have notified ED they have told me that this title on EB and New Egg is not valid. Please don't stress over it. If you wan't the official Lock On 1.1 title please visit NaturalPoint.com or the other verified distributors of Lock On: Flaming Cliffs in Europe. Thanks, Jason Williams Marketing Director NaturalPoint, Inc. not that they couldn't have lied to NP as well... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf8218 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Yes, I saw those, but I meant screenshots of disk content, like file and folders. it seems like the install is in one big file and the rest is for the CD autorun maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 Does the contents on the NP cd look the same? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf8218 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 hell if i know, do you think i would pay them 50 bucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Does the contents on the NP cd look the same? No ! the naturalpoint CD I think has all directories etc in them. This one infact looks like a ripoff of the download version. WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyRomeo Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 No ! the naturalpoint CD I think has all directories etc in them. This one infact looks like a ripoff of the download version. This is the NaturalPoint CD - no directories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 touche sherlock ! :) WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britgliderpilot Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 My downloaded installer was only 280-odd Mb - if they've ripped off the download version then something interesting has happened with installers. Whether they've combined the addon installer, terrain installer, and so forth into one package I don't know . . . . but I'm pretty sure that isn't the straight download installer. Yet neither does it appear to be the installer from the NaturalPoint CD. Whatever the hell this is . . . . it's something odd. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf8218 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 i just got the code and it worked! how do i know if i have the terrain pack and the stutter fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOPrey Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 It looks like FC is also $30 at NP's site, and I'm going to need another copy of FC for my second machine. Trying to think if I should buy it at EB or order it from NP. If I buy from EB, I will also have a extra copy of the original LockOn as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKungFu Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 lol yea its so tempting to buy Lock On Gold since i could have another whole new copy since my old one is busted up already. But i want to learn more about this starforce thing for the Gold version before i buy it. Has anyone reinstalled it and do you still need to contact starforce support or do you use the same code they gave you in the e-mail. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf8218 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 yeah you just hold shift while it starts up and theyll give you a code once you email them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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