luckyluca Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Hello there, has anybody seen this? after having installed the 1.1.0.8 patch over 1.1.0.7, the game asked for the activation code gain and bum I lost an activation. Luca Simultools
sobek Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 This is normal and intended. An additional activation has been granted to all valid users. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
MemphisBelle Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 didn´t you noticed that once you activated DCS you had the same amount like before. That´s why you recieved a new one to your account. BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
Qazme Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 When I activated it I didn't have the same as before. I lost one......2 down 8 to go.
Wayc00lio Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I'm on 5 to go. Cos of reinstalls. It's only been on this machine! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG Rampage Extreme VI; i9 7900X (all 10 cores at 4.5GHz); 32 Gb Corsair Dominator DDR4; EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid; 1Tb Samsung 960 Evo M2; 2Tb Samsung 850 Pro secondary. Oculus Rift; TM Warthog; Saitek Combat Pros.
159th_Viper Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I'm on 5 to go. Cos of reinstalls. It's only been on this machine! Why did you not deactivate? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Qazme Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Well funny thing is I've reinstalled two more time, testing out Steam and patching etc. and it has quit asking me now, thank god. Why did you not deactivate? If its going on the same machine your not supposed to have too.
bradleyjs Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 I'm glad this was clarified -- I saw the same thing yesterday and wondered about it too. However, I was excited to try out the new patch - I didn't really care at the moment. ... ;-)) Alienware Area 51 R5 - Intel i9 7980XE (4.7 GHz), 32GB Dual Channel HyperX DDR4 XMP, Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Graphics 11GB GDDR5X SLI, 4.5 TB combo of SSDs/HDDs, Alienware 1500 Watt Multi-GPU Power Supply, Alienware 25” 240Hz Gaming Monitor, Alienware Pro Gaming Keyboard, TM HOTAS, TM Cougar F-16C MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, TrackIR5, Win10 Pro x64
159th_Viper Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 If its going on the same machine your not supposed to have too. Straightforward uninstall and reinstall of DCS, yes, you would be correct - no need to deactivate. Then again - you would also not need to reactivate and thus something more obviously happened that is not mentioned in the relevant post. Referring to O/S then you'd have to deactivate to save a subsequent activation. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Qazme Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Straightforward uninstall and reinstall of DCS, yes, you would be correct - no need to deactivate. Then again - you would also not need to reactivate and thus something more obviously happened that is not mentioned in the relevant post. Referring to O/S then you'd have to deactivate to save a subsequent activation. Which is what we are talking about, a straight forward install. You have to reactivate your product once installing the 1.1.0.8 patch stated by ED because of the changes in Starforce protection and what not, which is why they have 'added' an activation to each serial. From my understand if you deactivate and reactivate it still costs 1 activation, least it did for me on my other machine this morning.... Nothing has been left out from what I have done, I just reinstalled. NOTHING changed no hardware, software, or drivers changes. No machine name changes, hell I didn't even reboot. Either way after reading up a bit on the topic of activations this seems kind of a moot thread anyways because the activation that you burn is granted back to you a month after activation right?
159th_Viper Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 ....the activation that you burn is granted back to you a month after activation right? No. Starforce AAA - Once all your activations are used and upon the expiry of a specific time thereafter, only then are you granted another activation. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=59002 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
sobek Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Which is what we are talking about, a straight forward install. You have to reactivate your product once installing the 1.1.0.8 patch stated by ED because of the changes in Starforce protection and what not, which is why they have 'added' an activation to each serial. From my understand if you deactivate and reactivate it still costs 1 activation, least it did for me on my other machine this morning.... No, it does only in the case of updating from 0.7 to 0.8 because starforce was updated too. This is not normally the case with patches or reinstalls. If you deactivate, it will cost you a deactivation, but you can still reactivate with the old key. Even more so, a reinstall does not cost you an activation normally. The 0.7 to 0.8 update is special in this regard. Either way after reading up a bit on the topic of activations this seems kind of a moot thread anyways because the activation that you burn is granted back to you a month after activation right? Nope, only the very last one is replenished after a month, once you are down to zero. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Qazme Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 No, it does only in the case of updating from 0.7 to 0.8 because starforce was updated too. This is not normally the case with patches or reinstalls. If you deactivate, it will cost you a deactivation, but you can still reactivate with the old key. Even more so, a reinstall does not cost you an activation normally. The 0.7 to 0.8 update is special in this regard. That's what I said "You have to reactivate your product once installing the 1.1.0.8 patch stated by ED because of the changes in Starforce protection"....You have a certain numbers of deactivation? Is there somewhere straight from ED I can get what happens when you run out? I mean I understand it's to protect against piracy but if a paying customer can't reinstall their sim at some point and have to repurchase that's pretty sorry. And if this is the case, has it ever happened that anyone knows of? Nope, only the very last one is replenished after a month, once you are down to zero. Ok so it only does that after you use up all 10. Well what happens when you use up 10. Two months later you reinstall. You stay at one? Permanently? What happens if you use it then decide to go ahead and build a new machine due to say a hardware failure, like a hard drive failure for instance? There would be no way of deactivating, you only have one key left, now you've lost it? I'm thinking a few years out from now because I re-image my machine at least once a year and so far this year since I've purchased this sim have already used 2 activations and no deactivation?
159th_Viper Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 ...You have a certain numbers of deactivation? 10 Is there somewhere straight from ED I can get what happens when you run out? You submit a request via the Support Ticket procedure available. For more information, read the following post: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=568704&postcount=3 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
sobek Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 There would be no way of deactivating, you only have one key left, now you've lost it? Every time you get down to zero, a new activation is granted to you after a month. Additionally, in cases where this reasonable and necessary, ED can grant you additional activations. If in need, contact customer support and present your matter in a courteous manner. You will not be left standing in the rain, if your request is reasonable. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Qazme Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Ok thanks for the link. So essentially if I upgrade to an SSD, which is only one change, it will not make me reactivate as long as the machine is the same. If I deactivate it on the old machine, and active on the new machine it doesn't cost me anything, other than 1 of the deactivations? So essentially you can go through 10 complete machine changes before you would run into an issue, right? If that's the way it works I'm fine because I don't think I'll be building 10 new machines anytime soon lol. That's the only hang up I've having. So in reality, nothing is costing us anything unless you are putting it on a completely different machine, and this last activation was only because of a change in the protection which I knew about. Now it's starting to click with me. Is there anyways, besides going through the motions, that we can see how many we have left? Thanks for the links!
sobek Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Ok thanks for the link. So essentially if I upgrade to an SSD, which is only one change, it will not make me reactivate as long as the machine is the same. If I deactivate it on the old machine, and active on the new machine it doesn't cost me anything, other than 1 of the deactivations? So essentially you can go through 10 complete machine changes before you would run into an issue, right? If that's the way it works I'm fine because I don't think I'll be building 10 new machines anytime soon lol. That's the only hang up I've having. Well, no. :) Different kinds of hardware changes cost you a different amount of points, so to speak. Once you reach a certain amount of points, a reactivation is in order. CPU change, for example, is a biggie. OS reinstall is another one. It's listed somewhere what amounts to how many points so you can figure yourself. It's somewhere in the starforce documentation. The number of remaining activations can be obtained by calling up protect.exe, IIRC. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
ED Team Chizh Posted June 3, 2011 ED Team Posted June 3, 2011 We have added to all users one activation, as compensation of lost one with 1108 reactivation. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу
cichlidfan Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Well, no. :) Different kinds of hardware changes cost you a different amount of points, so to speak. Once you reach a certain amount of points, a reactivation is in order. CPU change, for example, is a biggie. OS reinstall is another one. It's listed somewhere what amounts to how many points so you can figure yourself. From the quick start guide: An activation will be required if the hardware/software changes exceed 12 points as rated below: CPU ID: 13 Windows PID: 3 Computer Name: 3 Hard drive volume serial number: 3 MAC address: 6 RAM amount: 6 If you just uninstall game and then reinstall it again on the same PC without reinstalling your operating system or changing hardware, you do not need to use a deactivation. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
swissross Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) Why isn't there a "deactivate" option in the DCS A-10 folder? Or Why isn't Deactivation an option during uninstall? If we have to deal with a countdown it'd be nice to have a simple way from the game folder to deactivate the game if need be. Edited June 3, 2011 by 159th_Viper Content with reference to piracy removed
159th_Viper Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 Why isn't there a "deactivate" option in the DCS A-10 folder? Or Why isn't Deactivation an option during uninstall? If we have to deal with a countdown it'd be nice to have a simple way from the game folder to deactivate the game if need be. Have a look at the Quick-Start guide pg 9-14. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Wayc00lio Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) Why did you not deactivate? Didn't realise I had to. I would have done otherwise :-( Actually, in two instances I couldn't anyway as my machine died and I needed to install a new OS, first reinstall ended up corrupt and second one was good to go. Edited June 3, 2011 by Wayc00lio [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG Rampage Extreme VI; i9 7900X (all 10 cores at 4.5GHz); 32 Gb Corsair Dominator DDR4; EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid; 1Tb Samsung 960 Evo M2; 2Tb Samsung 850 Pro secondary. Oculus Rift; TM Warthog; Saitek Combat Pros.
fragged Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 MAC address and RAM amount both have oddly high point values.
Charlie_01 Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 We have added to all users one activation, as compensation of lost one with 1108 reactivation. Can you please tell me in which manner could I check how many activation I have at time? :huh:
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