genbrien Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 I did a mission this morning and got locked a while by a SA-3. Turned on the Jammer and prayed that I dont hear the missile warning tone. I kept the jammer ON a goooood 5 min and that got me thinking.... In real life, is it hazardous for the pilot to let the jammer ON for a long time? Is there some kind of restriction? Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month?[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe Monitor: Lg 22'' 1920*1080 CPU: i7 2600k@ 4.8Ghz +Zalman CNPS9900 max Keyboard: Logitech G15 GPU:GTX 980 Strix Mouse: Sidewinder X8 PSU: Corsair TX750w Gaming Devices: Saytek X52, TrackIr5 RAM: Mushkin 2x4gb ddr3 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz Case: 690 SSD: Intel X25m 80gb
Harzach Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) Less hazardous than a SAM, for sure. That said... http://airforcemedicine.afms.mil/idc/groups/public/documents/afms/ctb_021815.pdf I suspect that the pilot is shielded either by a physical barrier or, more likely, the directionality of the device. Any chiefs can weigh in on this? Edited July 21, 2011 by Harzach 1
Eddie Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 The airframe and the positioning of the ECM antennas will prevent risk of injury to the pilot. If this wasn't the case the ECM antennas would be the least of your worries, you should be more concerned about the much larger and considerably more powerful RADAR antennas flying all around you. Of course, the emissions from RADAR and ECM antennas is most certainly dangerous to maintenence crews on the ground, the average safety distance in front of the nose when a fighers RADAR is operated on the ground for testing is around 100m. Back when I was on the E-3D we had to clear the whole hangar and ramp area and notify the local authorites before we did a ground test on the RADAR, we limited to only a handful of ground tests a month due to the bases proximity to residential areas.
genbrien Posted July 21, 2011 Author Posted July 21, 2011 what kind of damage/injuries can it cause to the body? Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month?[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe Monitor: Lg 22'' 1920*1080 CPU: i7 2600k@ 4.8Ghz +Zalman CNPS9900 max Keyboard: Logitech G15 GPU:GTX 980 Strix Mouse: Sidewinder X8 PSU: Corsair TX750w Gaming Devices: Saytek X52, TrackIr5 RAM: Mushkin 2x4gb ddr3 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz Case: 690 SSD: Intel X25m 80gb
mvsgas Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/radiofrequencyradiation/fnradpub.html looking for more info for you guys Edited July 21, 2011 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
MoGas Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Isn`t it, if a Prowler now Growler if you want, turns on his EW/Jammers, on the deck, that people who are close by, would die, by a heart attack?
RaXha Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 This might be a bit different since it is a ground based radar and might be a bit more powerful, but the minimum distance of the radars we had when i was in service was 50 meters, any closer than that and risk of burns or other injuries was very high. In this case it was the MIM-23 Hawk High power illuminator/tracker radar. They demonstrated this once by placing a bag of microwave popcorn in front on the radar and turning it on, started popping within seconds. Of course the bag was placed within a meter of the device and standing so close to it was more or less impossible unless you were standing on a ladder. I'm guessing however that the radar/jammer on aircraft is less powerfull and/or the pilot is somehow shielded from the radar.
Bimbac Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 what kind of damage/injuries can it cause to the body? Hello, why do you think i's forbidden do dry live animals in a microwave oven? The answer is: They would be cooked inside out! I remember I witnessed a ground test of a fighter sized radar on the ramp. A rabbit that accidentally ran in front of the antenna was fried instantly. Regards!
sobek Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 what kind of damage/injuries can it cause to the body? Depends entirely on the wavelenght, microwaves will increase the thermal energy of tissue while shorter wavelengths (e.g. x-rays or gamma radiation) will ionise particles in the tissue, potentially increasing the risk of cancer or in very high doses will cause rapid cell death. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Eddie Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 what kind of damage/injuries can it cause to the body? Well, they are pumping out a lot of microwaves (megawatts in some cases), you know how quick the 900(ish)watt microwave in your kitchen cooks stuff, so use your imagination. Not nice to say the least.
EtherealN Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Build yourselves some faraday cages on wheels. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
sobek Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Build yourselves some faraday cages on wheels. :D It would have to be very small-meshed, the shorter the wavelength, the better it can penetrate a faraday cage of fixed mesh-size. Look at the mesh in the front of your microwave for reference. ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
EtherealN Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 I know. I didn't mean for it to be a practical solution. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
hassata Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 An F-18 pilot told me the radar could cook a turkey once on Fleet Day. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RIPTIDE Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Some say the F-18 could boil the polar ice caps on mars... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mvsgas Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 Haven't found anything interesting. If you guys look in OSHA for RF radiation there are several articles on it. Same by looking in Google. Not specific to ECM pods. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Harzach Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 Haven't found anything interesting. If you guys look in OSHA for RF radiation there are several articles on it. Same by looking in Google. Not specific to ECM pods. I thought the doc I posted was pretty relevant. Granted, it deals more with ground test safety, but it gives you a good idea of what is coming out of these devices.
mvsgas Posted July 22, 2011 Posted July 22, 2011 I did not disregard it nor I tried to downplayed it. I was not trying to ignore it. I was simply saying, from me, I could not find any additional info. Did not mean to imply anything beyond that. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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