How to get JTAC to IR-Mark

[Nate--IRL--]

OK looking at it now - to use the IR pointer the UNIT must have a large weapon. I.E. a HMMMV with a large calibre MG or TOW. Infantry can't use the IR point AFAIK.

 

Nate

[Mud]

Aha! That I did not know. I'll give it a try tonight.

 

Thanks Nate!

[Mud]

I just wanna confirm it's working with a Humvee, even on a unit 2km away. And I can see the beam very clearly.

[Nate--IRL--]

2km? I couldn't get it to do that. Maybe I had bad LOS then.

 

Glad you have working.

 

Nate

[Elwin]

I wanted to test all this and I created a simple mission with few enemy units on abandoned airport and a HMMV (armament) nearby as JTAC. It is within 1km range so that it can mark with IR.

 

Problem is, it shoots at the targets and destroys most of them within a minute. Is it possible to configure the JTAC unit to prevent this?

[majapahit]

I wanted to test all this and I created a simple mission with few enemy units on abandoned airport and a HMMV (armament) nearby as JTAC. It is within 1km range so that it can mark with IR.

 

Problem is, it shoots at the targets and destroys most of them within a minute. Is it possible to configure the JTAC unit to prevent this?

 

HOLD fire, is a 'trigger' command somewhere

[WildFire]

Yeah, advanced options set ROE to hold fire..

[Evil.Bonsai]

I wanted to test all this and I created a simple mission with few enemy units on abandoned airport and a HMMV (armament) nearby as JTAC. It is within 1km range so that it can mark with IR.

 

Problem is, it shoots at the targets and destroys most of them within a minute. Is it possible to configure the JTAC unit to prevent this?

 

Then they obviously didn't NEED CAS; anyone hear someone crying "wolf"? :)

[cichlidfan]

OK looking at it now - to use the IR pointer the UNIT must have a large weapon. I.E. a HMMMV with a large calibre MG or TOW. Infantry can't use the IR point AFAIK.

 

Nate

 

Any idea what the logic behind that is? Though some of the various IR and laser pointers are large weapon mounted devices are there not hand held equivalents currently available?

[cichlidfan]

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Problem is, it shoots at the targets and destroys most of them within a minute. Is it possible to configure the JTAC unit to prevent this?

 

I learned that lesson as well. It was fun to watch once I figured out what was happening!;)

[Elwin]

My JTAC unit actually has HOLD command, it is the last command. Will try to bump it up to first position. (Edit: didn't work)

 

Meanwhile, EPLRS: when set to true, unit will appear as green cross on TGP and it will send tasking via SADL. If set to false, it will not appear as green cros on TGP and it will only give 9-line & remarks, is this correct?

 

Maybe this is a bug (?), but I set EPLRS to false, it works once, but when I open the mission again, it is explicitly set to true again.

Edited August 21, 2011 by Elwin

[Elwin]

All right, got it. It is not "Command" type, it is "Option" type, then the action ROE and select 'Weapons hold' from the last dropdown. WildFire was right all along, I was setting it incorrectly :doh:

 

Anyway, I couldn't but notice that JTAC operation is quite instable, after 2+ taskings, they eventually either stop responding or they repeat the same line all over again or, as it happened to me today, it may even crash the mission.

[Nate--IRL--]

Any idea what the logic behind that is? Though some of the various IR and laser pointers are large weapon mounted devices are there not hand held equivalents currently available?

 

I don't know - I would have thought infantry would have been capable of IR marking too - but I don't know if that is really the case or not. Anyway it is what it is in DCS, it was concious design choice so it isn't going to be changed unless we can provide ED with evidence to the contrary.

 

Nate

[cichlidfan]

Anyway it is what it is in DCS, it was concious design choice so it isn't going to be changed unless we can provide ED with evidence to the contrary.

 

Nate

 

I am fine with it working that way but that type of information really needs to be made available to 'all' of the users of the ME.

 

Unit limitations that exist because they were coded that way should be outlined in the mission editor.

[Nate--IRL--]

I am fine with it working that way but that type of information really needs to be made available to 'all' of the users of the ME.

 

Unit limitations that exist because they were coded that way should be outlined in the mission editor.

 

Yes, you are right, I'll report it.

 

Nate

[Evil.Bonsai]

Just set up a quick mission using Kiowa for FAC at night. Reading the comments about having to be close, I set it up about 1K from a few IFVs. It took off and orbited them at 2K+ feet and several klicks out. They continued their orbit and sparkled the whole time. It was quite cool to see.

 

Edit: made a slight mod to my original mission. Now I have it set for the Kiowa to mark a moving truck on a road. Only this time, the 9-line said 'no mark'. Went from type 2 (IR mark stationary IFVs) to type 3 (moving truck on road). Does the IR pointer/marker not work on moving vehicles?

Edited August 21, 2011 by Evil.Bonsai

[Topgun505]

I've got a training mission as well in which the JTAC has been assigned to utilize IR Pointer to mark the targets for this night mission. The JTAC calls in the strike as expected but does NOT attempt to mark the target in any way (aside from giving the UTM coords).

 

Any idea as to why? They should have a clear LOS and only 1km away.

Training Moving Targets LoDif JTAC Night_1.2.miz

Edited September 25, 2011 by Topgun505

[Nate--IRL--]

Try it with an armed HMMMV unit - an unarmed HMMMV is not capable of lasing or IR marking AFAIK.

 

Nate

[Topgun505]

After reviewing all the pages of this thread I saw that and I went in and edited changes to that effect. Will test it shortly.

[WildBillKelsoe]

insure your laser code is the same one the JTAC uses.. dunno how but must be related..

[Topgun505]

Ok Nate, those changes worked. Thanks