Charles Darwin Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Might be dumb question..but why is the target's elevation important in a 9 line CAS request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Was going to ask the same question. Beat me to it.:) Fighter Pilot Podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTFDarkEagle Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 When you are punching in the information in the CDU directly, it might be important :D Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 You need to know in order to plan your attack properly. If you carry out weapon deliveries "by the book" it's an important factor, but if you don't then it isn't. For example, if you will loose 4000 feet to carry out your HADB mk82 attack, you dont want to decend below 6000 ft due to MANPADS and the target elev is 1400ft then you know you need to start you attack from at least 11400ft. This is especially important in mountainous areas. In the A-10C terrain elevation can be taken from the DTC database, but that isn't the case for all aircraft. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Not dumb at all. Another reason is it makes it easier to figure out the min. altitude to fly to avoid AAA and SAMs in and around the target. Sniped... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazjar Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Eddie. which book do you speak of? Seriously. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 There are many. Some are available to the public, some are not. Have a look for paulrkiii's docs posted on these forums. They are publicly released version of the docs used by the 25th and are based on the real world A-10 docs. Beyond that there are many books written by pilots telling their stories from combat and most have a lot of detail. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Darwin Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 oh well that makes a ton of sense..thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aces_full85 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 When you are punching in the information in the CDU directly, it might be important :D It might not be the correct RL prodecure, but I've never entered the target elevation when creating a waypoint for a target. Even if the field is blank, the CDU will always plop a WP right on ground level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazjar Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 waypoints can be created as mathematical 3d points in the sky, just go fly a gow mission and see. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil.Bonsai Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Not sure about offset, but using MGRS, every time I enter it into the cdu it pops up with elevation automatically. I write the elev. down and compare what they're telling over 9-line vs what pops up. If they're not close, I start to recheck everything. I don't think I've seen anything over 25ft of difference, unless I did something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazjar Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Wow- the CDU is more of a smartass than I am :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 15, 2011 ED Team Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) Might be dumb question..but why is the target's elevation important in a 9 line CAS request? Without target elevation your bombing sight will be inaccurate. If DTSAS is operating properly you should not care about it as DTSAS determines elevation automatically. It is called DTS elevation. Once DTSAS is failed, or is off map, or simply is turned off, you will have to enter target elevation manually into a waypoint, and then to set it as steerpoint to get bombing sight operating properly. This is called HOT elevation. The elevation also can be edited via UFC by DATA switch when HOT elevation is the currently selected elevation mode. Sometimes DTS elevation works incorrectly. Typical example is mountainous terrain. It this case it is practicable to select HOT elevation option and then to set your target waypoint as steerpoint. Edited November 16, 2011 by Olgerd [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Many thanks. Fighter Pilot Podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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