arjuna Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 What is a ballpark figure for funding a new DCS aircraft? Another WW2 aircraft or one for which lots of source material could be found. Does anyone know what it would cost to assemble a team of people who could make a mod which could be included in DCS? I'm thinking more of a contribution from a few people with the money, but have you guys heard of kickstarter.com? What do you think of funding new DCS aircraft that way? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My PC Game Blog
asparagin Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 This much: Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
Irregular programming Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Two snickers bars and a can of coke.
Krebs20 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Don't know. I would pay for the MIG21 mod for FC2 to be fully supported and put into DCS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Bearitall Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Interesting Idea :thumbup: But I see draw backs..for instance not everyone maybe on the same page for what aircraft to sponsor..so a huge debate will drag out long heated arguements..of which aircraft to develop... But nice thinking... www.virtualtuskegeeairmen.com
arjuna Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Don't know. I would pay for the MIG21 mod for FC2 to be fully supported and put into DCS. So would I. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My PC Game Blog
Peyoteros Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 If ED or TFC would need your financial support, they would add the "donation" option on the official website or forums... "Eagle Dynamics" - simulating human madness since 1991 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ۞ ۞
Nate--IRL-- Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 If ED or TFC would need your financial support, they would add the "donation" option on the official website or forums... I think he means a 3rd party Aircraft development. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
effte Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Or going the USAF way, saying "hey, I'm sitting on all the data for this aircraft - please model it for me! What kind of discount do I get if you can release a 'light' version to the public?" Financing it is the easy part. Sitting through all the griping from people who would rather have seen the Flying Flea modelled without contracting spontaneous combustion - that's the challenge! :D ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
cichlidfan Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 For an established development house I would guess 3/4 to 1 million dollars. If you are talking about a newly formed group then double that. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Peyoteros Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I think he means a 3rd party Aircraft development. Nate I'm thinking more of a contribution from a few people with the money, but have you guys heard of kickstarter.com? What do you think of funding new DCS aircraft that way?a little confusing, no? "Eagle Dynamics" - simulating human madness since 1991 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ۞ ۞
arjuna Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 a little confusing, no? Sorry, I meant both. How much do you think it costs ED, and how much would it cost to make a 3rd party mod that approaches DCS quality? The first part out of idle curiosity and the second part because it would be awesome if the community could fund mods in an organised way... voting for aircraft and volunteering money. Now don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the way things are... just a few recent developments have got me thinking - the crowd sourcing phenomenon and the fact that you can charge for mods now. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My PC Game Blog
213 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 when a single person can basically shame the dcs development team with a product of equal quality in a fraction of the time(beczel), you wonder if they're not overpaying someone. it really is quite simple if you have the tools and the understanding of how to use it. which is why user content would just explode once they explain how everything works.
Nate--IRL-- Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 when a single person can basically shame the dcs development team with a product of equal quality in a fraction of the time(beczel), you wonder if they're not overpaying someone. I'm not really sure how to respond to that. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
effte Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I'm really curious about what or who this mythical "beczel" product/person is. 213, care to explain? If I'd been a poker player, the above could probably have been summed up in two words: "I call". ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
cichlidfan Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I believe this is the beczl being refered to. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
sobek Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 when a single person can basically shame the dcs development team with a product of equal quality in a fraction of the time(beczel), you wonder if they're not overpaying someone. Not sure if you are aware, but beczl is an official ED modder. Not to downplay any of his efforts, but there are things he can do and things he can't do. Comparing his work to a fully developed module from ED simply underpinns the fact that you don't really have a grasp of what you are implying. ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
winz Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 it really is quite simple if you have the tools and the understanding of how to use it. which is why user content would just explode once they explain how everything works. And that's why you see tons of high quality, high fidelity addons for MSFS, all beeing produced by individuals and sold for only a fraction of the price you have to pay for a DCS product. [/irony] The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
arjuna Posted February 13, 2012 Author Posted February 13, 2012 Not sure if you are aware, but beczl is an official ED modder. Not to downplay any of his efforts, but there are things he can do and things he can't do. Comparing his work to a fully developed module from ED simply underpinns the fact that you don't really have a grasp of what you are implying. ;) Ok, now I've understood that its not really a funding problem, its a lack of know how and access to know how. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My PC Game Blog
Nate--IRL-- Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 Ok, now I've understood that its not really a funding problem, its a lack of know how and access to know how. If you are serious arjuna it might be worth sending a private message to Jim Mack or wags asking about 3rd party support for such a project. Outline your intent and highlight your concerns. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
arjuna Posted February 13, 2012 Author Posted February 13, 2012 If you are serious arjuna it might be worth sending a private message to Jim Mack or wags asking about 3rd party support for such a project. Outline your intent and highlight your concerns. Nate I'm not sure Mr Mack or Wags could help. Their resources will be tied up in the upcoming projects, and they would probably just tell me they are happy with the pace of arrival of new aircraft. I'm asking the community what it would take for us to develop mods (let’s call them mods before we call them anything else) in an organised way. Let’s step back to FC2. How much would it cost to hire people to build a model, texture it... and implement it in the game? Surely we aren't talking about millions of pounds here... we are talking about a sum of money the community can easily raise. Aren't we? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My PC Game Blog
Nate--IRL-- Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 I'm not sure Mr Mack or Wags could help. Their resources will be tied up in the upcoming projects, and they would probably just tell me they are happy with the pace of arrival of new aircraft. I meant a closer relationship with ED with regard to information support for your development. You cited lack of information and access to information as a problem, it needn't be. There are many Official Modders - they enjoy direct access to the relevant dev and have a private forum in order to discuss such projects with them and other Modders. Of course it is probably too early for you to approach ED - for now most of the information for implementation is contained in the Wiki. If this progress further for you could consider closer contact with ED. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
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