159th_Viper Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 It's neither a missile nor a rocket: It's a Projectile! :P Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
hitman Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 No, a projectile relies on external power to launch it.
PeterP Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 ah! you mean a guided, rocket driven Projectile! - That's a missile! Because my German dictionary tells me : missile = aerodynamic vehicle :P
Rusty_M Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) I reflect on my reflection And I ask myself the question "Have I the means to change direction, I go?" I don't know. Am I a missile, or am I a rocket? If I'm a rocket, then I'm a very missile-y rocket Am I a rocket or am I a missile If I'm a missile that makes me a rocket of a missile I fly on through the skies But do I recognise The target in my sight? Now it's time to see if I guide Am I a missile, or am I a rocket? If I'm a rocket, then I'm a very missile-y rocket Am I a rocket or am I a missile If I'm a missile that makes me a rocket of a missile I'm always running out of thrust On that you know you can trust One thing to understand: I go "Bang" Am I a missile, or am I a rocket? If I'm a rocket, then I'm a very missile-y rocket Am I a rocket or am I a missile If I'm a missile that makes me a rocket of a missile Edited May 11, 2012 by Rusty_M thought of a second verse! The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
PeterP Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) I reflect on my reflection And I ask myself the question "Have I the means to change direction, I go?" I don't know. Am I a missile, or am I a rocket? If I'm a rocket, then I'm a very missile-y rocket Am I a rocket or am I a missile If I'm a missile that makes me a rocket of a missile I fly on through the skies But do I recognise The target in my sight? Now it's time to see if I guide Am I a missile, or am I a rocket? If I'm a rocket, then I'm a very missile-y rocket Am I a rocket or am I a missile If I'm a missile that makes me a rocket of a missile I'm always running out of thrust On that you know you can trust One thing to understand: I go "Bang" Am I a missile, or am I a rocket? If I'm a rocket, then I'm a very missile-y rocket Am I a rocket or am I a missile If I'm a missile that makes me a rocket of a missile That sounds like a song!* but not like a explanation! ;) ... where is the music?! ....edit: and much better: where is the video?! *cant rep you.. yada,yada -you have to spread! Edited May 11, 2012 by PeterP
Rusty_M Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) I changed the lyrics a little. Edited May 11, 2012 by Rusty_M The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
PeterP Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) He is a missile! - not a rocket! Here is one to make you think: Pastor of Muppet's Who is pulling your strings?! btw:"Pastor of Muppet's" this is a very good name for a band! Edited May 11, 2012 by PeterP
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Depth Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Doesn't matter what the propulsion is if you don't use the missile right. This is how Chuck Norris does it: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BlueRidgeDx Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 What happened here? First 6 posts had the answer and now we're on page 3? None of the first six posts properly define the terms as they relate to military jargon. The general definitions given differ from the accepted military definitions in common use. Actually, rocket is just a type of engine. See below: Etimology aside, the proper usage of "rocket" in the context of US military jargon is to describe an unguided (ballistic) rocket propelled projectile, i.e. an RPG, or the FROG/Scud. "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
hitman Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 None of the first six posts properly define the terms as they relate to military jargon. The general definitions given differ from the accepted military definitions in common use. See below: Context or not, thats what a rocket IS.
BlueRidgeDx Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 What's your point? When talking about military vernacular - and that's what we're doing - a rocket is unguided and a missile is guided. Who gives a shit what dictionary.com has to say about the matter? What in the world does calling rocks and beer cans "missiles" add to the conversation? Such a definition, while academically accurate, is meaningless in the context it is being discussed. "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
Maximus_G Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Semantics. Anything with rocket propulsion is considered a rocket. Any projectile (except a bullet) launched through the air intended for a target is a missile, be it arrow, spear or rocket. Why is there an exception for the bullet? What's the bullet definition then? Edited May 12, 2012 by Maximus_G
hitman Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 What's your point? When talking about military vernacular - and that's what we're doing - a rocket is unguided and a missile is guided. Who gives a shit what dictionary.com has to say about the matter? What in the world does calling rocks and beer cans "missiles" add to the conversation? Such a definition, while academically accurate, is meaningless in the context it is being discussed. You seem to give a shit quite a bit. Get off your high horse.
RIPTIDE Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 That is probably a translation blooper. If I know my russian right (and it's not exactly good), it uses the same word (ракета - "raketa") for both "rocket" and "missile". EDIT: Wait, I thought you were talking about the Berkut system (NATO name SA-1). In the case of the S-25-L it's probably called a rocket because it's originally an unguided rocket that had a guidance system attached. Compare to the western DAGR system (Direct Attack Guided Rocket) which is based on the Hydra rocket. Purely an observation, but I see a lot of Russian literature will use "ракета" and alot of Russians themselves will say/write 'rocket' in English when referring even to A2A missiles. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Depth Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Why is there an exception for the bullet? What's the bullet definition then? I thought about it the wrong way, I was thinking in the lines of "shrapnel". A bullet is also a missile, yes. But like BlueRidge said this thread is in context of military jargon, where; Powered and unguided - Rocket Powered and guided - Missile Unpowered and unguided - Bomb Unpowered and guided - Smart bomb Fired from barrel - Bullet/shell [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BlueRidgeDx Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Get off your high horse Yeah, sorry for trying to provide an answer a little more meaningful than "all rockets are rockets". Next time, you guys can quibble over the categorization of rocks and beer cans without me and my high horse prancing about. Edited May 12, 2012 by BlueRidgeDx "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
Eddie Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Yeah, sorry for trying to provide an answer a little more meaningful than "all rockets are rockets". Next time, you guys can quibble over the categorization of rocks and beer cans without me and my high horse prancing about. Yep. And they wonder why a lot of the people able to answer many of the questions posed on these forums don't bother wasting their time. Hardly surprising given that often when such questions are answered correctly, those answers are at best ignored and at worst berated.
hitman Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Yeah, sorry for trying to provide an answer a little more meaningful than "all rockets are rockets". Next time, you guys can quibble over the categorization of rocks and beer cans without me and my high horse prancing about. You do that. Thanks! :thumbup:
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