Azazel Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) Is there any way to slow down the speed at which I adjust the Engine RPM (other than using the mouse to click and drag it)? I've tried going into the user control fig lua file and adjusting the value there but whatever value I put in doesn't seem to change the speed of the RPM handle in the sim. The reason I'd like to do this is because I do not have an axis to put the RPM handle on and I keep over shooting the value once in the air (not by much 50 to 100 RPMs) but I'd like to be able to hit it dead on :) Thx. Edited May 21, 2012 by Azazel My Rig: EVGA GTX 1070 x 2 | EVGA x58 SLI classified | i7 X 990 CPU | 24 GB RAM | Windows 10 Home 64 bit| Track IR Pro | CH Fighter Stick | CH Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MTFDarkEagle Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 maybe its better to have prop lever on your lever instead of throttle. I have nice two saitek -3 axis- throttle quads, I think its much betterw solution than HOTAS for P-51 Definitely not. You want throttle on a axis full stop. On my WH I have the LH throttle as RPM and the RH throttle as throttle. OT: Sorry, but I wouldn't even know where to look.. I would highly recommend getting your throttle and rpm control on an axis though.. Somehow... Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
MTFDarkEagle Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Sure you can. But having it on an axis I think is better. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Azazel Posted May 21, 2012 Author Posted May 21, 2012 In the lua code there is an area where it defines how much pressing the function changes the value, it doesn't seem to change it though. Tried modifying the keyboard lua file and the lua file for my stick config without any luck. I like my setup over all, putting prop pitch on an axis would be ideal but I'm not in the market for new controllers on this particular issue. My Rig: EVGA GTX 1070 x 2 | EVGA x58 SLI classified | i7 X 990 CPU | 24 GB RAM | Windows 10 Home 64 bit| Track IR Pro | CH Fighter Stick | CH Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MTFDarkEagle Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 What's the point of having your prop on an axis, but your throttle not? The throttle is the control you use FAR more than the RPM. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
531-Ghost Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Azazel, I seem to remember somewhere on these forums you mentioning you had/have a CH Products FS and PT? If so, there's a "throttle wheel" aka axis to the left of the FS you can assign. If using a single controller .map, assign the axis as a slider (either 0 or 1) in Control Manager, and there you have it. Done. :joystick:
531-Ghost Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Well, almost done. You'd have to assign the axis in the game too ;) :joystick:
531-Ghost Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Or, to keep things managable all in one software bundle (Control Manager) :joystick:
MTFDarkEagle Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Yea, its good hardware too, especially if you are going to fly twins too. All HOTASes are designed for modern, jet aircrafts, its really not a good choice when we come to props. Hmmm I partially disagree. When we're talking multi-engine prop, then yes, absolutely. However, with a single engine, the TM WH for example will do just fine. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Azazel Posted May 21, 2012 Author Posted May 21, 2012 Azazel, I seem to remember somewhere on these forums you mentioning you had/have a CH Products FS and PT? If so, there's a "throttle wheel" aka axis to the left of the FS you can assign. If using a single controller .map, assign the axis as a slider (either 0 or 1) in Control Manager, and there you have it. Done. Yeah, I'm using that wheel for elevator trim currently. Well, maybe when they get the trim tabs working on everything I'll be able to free up the wheel for Engine RPM or it looks like there are plenty of throttle quadrants out there. I may be due one. :D Thanks anyways. My Rig: EVGA GTX 1070 x 2 | EVGA x58 SLI classified | i7 X 990 CPU | 24 GB RAM | Windows 10 Home 64 bit| Track IR Pro | CH Fighter Stick | CH Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
531-Ghost Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Well, there is another option. *cough* Franken-Potato *cough* ;) :joystick:
Suchacz Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) I have X52Pro and I think, that its throttle quadrant is pretty useful for Pony. Z axis - throttle slider - RPM forward hat - K-14 wingspan and distance upper rotary - rudder trim lower rotary - wheel brake scrollwheel - mixture up/down ...and Stick: POV1 - Zoom +/- and kneeboard pages +/- POV2 - Aileron/Elevator trim T1/T2 - flaps up/down T3 - gear up/down "A" button - boresight/gyrosight/both and a lot of buttons still free Edited May 21, 2012 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
159th_Viper Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Mixture? Why would you want mixture on an axis? There is only one setting utilized in-flight, ie Run, unless you have an emergency and have to toggle to Full Rich. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Suchacz Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Why would you want mixture on an axis? There is only one setting utilized in-flight, ie Run, unless you have an emergency and have to toggle to Full Rich. Right Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
Suchacz Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Well, it is lever in real aircraft for reason, no matter there are only few preset positions. Everybody as he likes it :smilewink: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
159th_Viper Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Well, there is lever in real aircraft for reason, no matter there are only few preset positions. Yes, I understand that. I meant to infer that, if your choice of axis are limited, it would be a good one to ignore as it is not really necessary for it to be on an axis. Everybody should get a CH Throttle Quadrant - cannot live without mine these days :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Suchacz Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Everybody should get a CH Throttle Quadrant Absolutely it would be useful, but even now my wife is joking, that I have more toys, than our children :cry::lol: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
bluepilot76 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Seems to be PgUp and PgDn on my keyboard, not sure if i set it to that. Anyway thats fine. couple of short taps easily reduced the RPMs to whatever you want. Bobs your uncle. Technical Specs: Asus G73JW gaming laptop... i7-740QM 1.73GHz ... GTX460m 1.5GB ... 8GB DDR5 RAM ... Win7 64 ... TIR5 ... Thrustmaster T16000m
Azazel Posted May 22, 2012 Author Posted May 22, 2012 I still think its possible to slow down the rate at which a key is pressed (I'm pretty sure it can be done through the CH control manager but I've never tried programming scripts for that software). This would also help with trim for those of us who have that on a hat. If any of you testers can find out if the how to change the rate of key presses through the input lua file, I would really appreciate it. Thanks. My Rig: EVGA GTX 1070 x 2 | EVGA x58 SLI classified | i7 X 990 CPU | 24 GB RAM | Windows 10 Home 64 bit| Track IR Pro | CH Fighter Stick | CH Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mirtma Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 I still think its possible to slow down the rate at which a key is pressed (I'm pretty sure it can be done through the CH control manager but I've never tried programming scripts for that software). This would also help with trim for those of us who have that on a hat. If any of you testers can find out if the how to change the rate of key presses through the input lua file, I would really appreciate it. Thanks. I've put it on two buttons on my throttle. Press and hold one button for forward and other for back. It works just fine. Gigabyte Z490 Gaming X | i5 10600K@4700 | 32 Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11G | MONITOR IIYAMA 24,5" LED LCD @ 1920 x 1080 | Windows 11 | Saitek X-55 Rhino | TrackIR 5 Pro
Azazel Posted May 22, 2012 Author Posted May 22, 2012 I've put it on two buttons on my throttle. Press and hold one button for forward and other for back. It works just fine. Maybe I wasn't being descriptive enough. I have done the same as you (I also have the page up and page down keys on my HOTAS). I'm well aware it works. All I have been asking is if it is possible to slow down the rate at which the Engine RPM Handle changes its position (seems a little fast to me: just my opinion). My Rig: EVGA GTX 1070 x 2 | EVGA x58 SLI classified | i7 X 990 CPU | 24 GB RAM | Windows 10 Home 64 bit| Track IR Pro | CH Fighter Stick | CH Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mirtma Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Maybe I wasn't being descriptive enough. I have done the same as you (I also have the page up and page down keys on my HOTAS). I'm well aware it works. All I have been asking is if it is possible to slow down the rate at which the Engine RPM Handle changes its position (seems a little fast to me: just my opinion). :doh: Sorry, now I understand. Gigabyte Z490 Gaming X | i5 10600K@4700 | 32 Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11G | MONITOR IIYAMA 24,5" LED LCD @ 1920 x 1080 | Windows 11 | Saitek X-55 Rhino | TrackIR 5 Pro
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