Next DCS (Russian) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[Dappman]

The S veriant is good enough. Seriously.

 

The votes say otherwise. I'm just trying to present a realistic variant that could be modeled in DCS.

[Frosty]

The S is the best bet we have unless something gets declassified

 

I've had a good trudge though it and there's hardly anything available

Edited October 28, 2015 by Frosty

[Dappman]

The a is the best bet we have unless something gets declassified

 

What's the "A"?

[Frosty]

A bad habit my iPhone commits itself too

[Kev2go]

The su-27s would be going against aircraft of it's own years like the f-16, f15c and the rest.

 

 

So why do you need the r-77 anyway.

 

because aforementioned aircraft have access to the aim120b & c, not just aim7 sparrows.

 

the r27 series are mostly semi active guided missiles like the aim7 sparrow, with expection of the r27T which has the infared guidance.

 

r77 would be comparable to active radar homing aim120

Edited October 31, 2015 by Kev2go

[danilop]

I've been doing a lot of research and it seems that an Su-27M would be the best new Sukhoi variant to have. ...

 

Either that or MiG-29M (9.15) would be ideal.

 

However, I doubt that anything properly simulated above 4th generation (read glass cockpit in Russian jets) would be easy to get FSB clearance for. And then they would have to deal with Sukhoi and MiG design bureaus and every single company under contract which makes airplane's internal systems.

 

The problem is primarily bureaucratic, not technical.

Edited October 31, 2015 by danilop

[Frosty]

I guess it's just a shame really.

 

Seems like too much of a hassle just to get one missile

[Xeno426]

I guess it's just a shame really.

 

Seems like too much of a hassle just to get one missile

As pointed out, the MiG-29S already has the missile.

[Exorcet]

because aforementioned aircraft have access to the aim120b & c, not just aim7 sparrows.

 

The F-16C and F-15C predate AMRAAM. Early models would only be AIM-7 capable. You could also just go with A models, which would remove BVR missiles from the F-16 completely.

[Gargoil]

Mig-23 is the most realistic option

[Frosty]

Does anyone know a tone of info on the su-17? Would it be a good choice ?

[Frosty]

Mig-23 is the most realistic option

 

+1

[Kev2go]

As pointed out, the MiG-29S already has the missile.

 

but that's a smaller lighter weight fighter more like the f16.

 

the su 27 is a larger air superiority fighter something more akin to the f15.

 

 

The F-16C and F-15C predate AMRAAM. Early models would only be AIM-7 capable. You could also just go with A models, which would remove BVR missiles from the F-16 completely.

 

Yes No **** Sherlock. But That argument doesn't hold any merit since apart from single player, something called Multiplayer exists. Many servers don't have missile restrictions, and 9/10 f15's are flying armed with aim120c against su27, and the F-18c that's in development will have access to amrams too.

Edited October 31, 2015 by Kev2go

[Xeno426]

Does anyone know a tone of info on the su-17? Would it be a good choice ?

None had any kind of EO system (unlike the MiG-27K), with the later Su-17 versions having a similar LSTR as the Su-25. In many ways, it would be quite similar to Su-25 (don't know if it had a HUD or gunsight like the Su-25, though). Polish Su-22M4s, however, started getting a TV display in the cockpit starting with the Seria 30 batch (rather like the Su-25T), allowing them to use weapons like the Kh-29T. It still didn't have any onboard EO-system, though.

 

Basically, it would be a faster Su-25 with a few more weapon options (it could make use of some anti-radiation missiles).

[Frosty]

Oh that's neat.

 

 

Su-25km

su-22M4 or

Su-23

 

New poll time

[Arianus]

Su-34 for sure!

[_Firefly]

IMHO the first priority for newer Russian aircraft should be fighters. With only the MiG-29S able to carry R-77s Russian pilots are at a disadvantage to the Eagle. I'd also love to see some supersonic ground pounders. Here's my wishlist...

 

1. MiG-29M Fulcrum-E

2. MiG-29K Fulcrum-D

3. MiG-27K Flogger-J2

4. Sukhoi Su-17M4

5. MiG-27M Flogger-J

[Xeno426]

Can't say I'm big on the MiG-29, mainly due to its massively short legs. I'd prefer a Su-27 variant.

[Frosty]

IMHO the first priority for newer Russian aircraft should be fighters. With only the MiG-29S able to carry R-77s Russian pilots are at a disadvantage to the Eagle. I'd also love to see some supersonic ground pounders. Here's my wishlist...

 

1. MiG-29M Fulcrum-E

2. MiG-29K Fulcrum-D

3. MiG-27K Flogger-J2

4. Sukhoi Su-17M4

5. MiG-27M Flogger-J

 

+1

[Farlander]

My list would be (more realistic list, not the absolute wish)

 

1. MiG-23

2. MiG-25

3. Su-24

4. Su-22

[Frosty]

1: mig-23 I want to know why everyone wants it so

2: su-17M4 really interesting design. Don't know if I would fly much else if it was added

[_Firefly]

Can't say I'm big on the MiG-29, mainly due to its massively short legs. I'd prefer a Su-27 variant.

 

True, but then again the M (Izdeliye 9.15) and the K both have slightly increased fuel capacity compared to the 9.13. Two additional hardpoints would also be a big bonus.

 

I too would like to see an Su-27 variant, though my only requirement would be R-77 compatibility. The Su-27PU/Su-30 and Su-27M (early variant with N011 radar, based on the T-10S-70 prototype, not the forerunner to the later Su-35 series) would both be good candidates, though given the PVO origins of the former I'd prefer to fly the latter (plus the M flies with the Russian Knights, which is a bonus to the cool factor). And canards are way too good looking on the Flanker...

 

By the way - forgive me if I'm wrong, but weren't you once the aircraft consultant on Wargame forums? If so then please let me pay my respects, you did a great job turning around aircraft in RD.

 

1: mig-23 I want to know why everyone wants it so

2: su-17M4 really interesting design. Don't know if I would fly much else if it was added

 

All the speculation about the MiG-23 stems from three things (IMHO): the amazing quality of the Leatherneck MiG-21 (which turned many heads previously fixated on 4th gen aircraft), Flogger's relative obscurity and its sheer beauty... I mean look at it, it's a supermodel with wings! (and a big butt, but who doesn't like those?)

 

As for the Su-17, I would love to get my hands on one in DCS, not least because of its long service history with Eastern Bloc states. The thought of conducting SEAD missions in a proper supersonic ground pounder armed with Kh-58s gives me the shivers... Though I'd still prefer to fly a MiG-27K with the same armament. ;)

[rrohde]

An updated variant of our beloved Flanker would be nice; the same goes for the Mig-29. Doesn't have to be DCS-level, but if it were, that would be the icing on the cake.

[dartuil]

We need a more reallistic poll without PAK FA, MIg-35 and SU-35.

They will not happen too classified.

[Frosty]

those wings really catch my attention. a true reason to join the polish or Slovakian airforce ;3

 

some times i wonder if a-g is just the war version of bullying. then i remember how much fun it is and salvo 4 rocket pods