FreeFall Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 StageFright, I can feel your pain. I hope you'll get it fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 She already has the fastest facebook surfing computer on earth. :lol::lol: My brother has one of those too (except it's for YouTube)!! ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) New PSU didn't fix it. I think im going to cry myself to sleep tonight. Edited August 16, 2012 by sobek Profanity [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 Anyone else have some ideas?....PeterP has been quiet. :unsure: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFall Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Is HD6950 or HD6970 too slow for you. I mean if you just "downgrade". At least my Asus DCII card has support for 6 displays. 11.6 version drivers work best with DCS A-10C, by the way. There are some 7970-related threads, for example: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=84405 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=83112 Maybe some of those guys use Helios as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I have 7970 but I don't use helios Don't stress too much about PSU, it'll get to be used one day, it won't go to waste No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 New PSU didn't fix it. I think im going to cry myself to sleep tonight. Go easy on the profanity, please. Using abbreviations does not satisfy compliance with the forum rules. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 @sobek....sorry about that, just let my frustrations get the best of me. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skymad Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 So, will you try with older GPU like HD6xxx ? I'd give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 If I were to try an older GPU, I would want to go with a 5970 sense it out performs the 6970. Sadly I can't find a 5970 eyefinity 6 for less than $1000, but I can find a 6970 DCII for $240. In retrospect though, I'd rather not try an older GPU, but rather find a solution to my problem with my current setup. If buying an older GPU fixes the issue, then really nothing has been fixed. I finally made contact with someone on gadroc's website that is using the same card and says he has had no issues with it and using Helios, but thats all I know. Havent heard back from him and Gadroc is still AWOL. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G00dnight Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Gadroc is very busy with his proper job, he said it will take all his time til at least end of aug. AMD A8-5600K @ 4GHz, Radeon 7970 6Gig, 16 Gig Ram, Win 10 , 250 gig SSD, 40" Screen + 22 inch below, Track Ir, TMWH, Saitek combat pedals & a loose nut behind the stick :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 I think I'm going to give up for now and just run it like this. 6 monitors actually gets better performance then 3 with Helios running. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTZKCzRPdzQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flim Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Dude, you have some sort of hardware issue! I would ebay off the ati and buy a gtx card! You also could have a bad motherboard etc... Many people use Helios no problem with fps. I run a 5870x6 with 4 monitors without any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG14_Smil Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Hello, Sorry if this was covered, but you do have Aero desktop enabled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 @Flim....my system is stable, I can run any game with no issues for as long as I want at full settings. I have run Prime95, Memtest86+, and OCCT all with flying colors with no issues. This issue is only related to Helios. I only get "Display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and has successfully recovered, Event 4101" when Helios is running. It doesn't matter what I fly, DCS World A-10C, Black Shark 2, or BMS 4.32. They all perform flawlessly without Helios running. But all crash if Helios is running. @JG14_Smil....Yes I have Aero Desktop enabled and I changed SoftTH config file to ensure it stays running. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Here is a advise for further troubleshooting/debugging: Run DCS+Helios (and SoftTh when you like) but this time run a test-track - where you are sure that it will crash after a certain time period - and run this tack again and again but switch a export-device off each time until you cycled through all of your exports. Maybe there is a bug - and only one Helios export is broken (or a combination of them)... Well I know how time consuming this can be... - but this is what " debuggin' " is in the first place : a time-vampire :) Edited August 17, 2012 by PeterP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadroc Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Helios doesn't do anything fancy with graphics APIs at all. I use native WPF (Microsofts latest graphics toolkit for C#) rendering components completely. I can only guess that the load from DCS and Helios is triggering a bug in the video drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 @PeterP....I'll just go ahead and file for divorce while i'm at it. I wish I had the time to take on such a project. The other thing is, the crash is completely random, running a test track would be useless. I have tried enabling just 2 monitors and just 1 monitor to run Helios. I think I almost got an hour out of 1 monitor running Loz's profile before it crashed. So if there is a bug, it would be in there...i guess. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 ATI have released Catalyst 12.8 few days ago, have you tried them yet? No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 I've installed the new drivers but I haven't tested it yet. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadroc Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I picked up a 7970 and did a full reinstall on my pit last night. I need to get the touch screen all hooked up and configured today and I'll try and replicate as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageFright Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 I can't say for sure yet, but it looks like ati drives 12.8 might have fixed my problem. Still testing but after a little over an hour of flight no crash yet. :unsure: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] | Windows 7 64bit | i7 3960x oc'd 4.8 GHz | Asus Rampage IV Formula | 4 x 8 GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 | ASUS 7970-DC2-3GD5 | Asus Xonar DX | Corsair H100 | OCZ Vertex 2 x 120 GB SSD RAID-0 | 3 x ASUS 27" monitors Eyefinity | 2 x ASUS 24" monitors w/touchscreen overlays | ViewSonic 22" TouchScreen Monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | TrackIR 5 | Logitech G19 | Logitech G9x Mouse | Astro A40 headset | ButtKicker Gamer 2 | SoftTH x64 | Loz's Helios Profile | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadroc Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Excellent. I have a 7970 now as well... but got it after 12.8 so might not have been able to reproduce ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre-63 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I can't say for sure yet, but it looks like ati drives 12.8 might have fixed my problem. Still testing but after a little over an hour of flight no crash yet. :unsure: First - allow me to apologize for raising this from the dead but I'm a new DCS A-10 flier and I'm having issues with the sim self-minimizing mid-flight. Unlike StageFright, I'm running a single monitor while in flight. I have a second, but it's shut off prior to launching the sim. Like StageFright, I'm on an ATI 7970 card and am using the 13.4 driver set. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i5-7600K CPU |32 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| Gigabyte Aorus GTX-1080Ti Gaming 12 GB| 55" 4K | TM Warthog HOTAS | Virpil MongoosT-50 | BRD Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre-63 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Disregard - I located my problem. In my case, I had an application not related to DCS that was silently crashing. Each time it did it caused Windows to steal focus from DCS. I identified the issue by reviewing the Windows Application Event Log. Hope this might help someone else who runs into a similar problem. Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i5-7600K CPU |32 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| Gigabyte Aorus GTX-1080Ti Gaming 12 GB| 55" 4K | TM Warthog HOTAS | Virpil MongoosT-50 | BRD Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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