S77th-konkussion Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Just a question, I am not trying to defend the offender or anything, but if the F-15's are using AR missles why cant the Su-27/33? I mean, I have been on servers where the Su-25T's are not allowed to use ARM's because the A-10's cannot, and I understand it is to keep it fair, but why this imbalance. Keep in mind fellas I am fairly new to the online thing, so I dont really know all the in's and out's that go with it. I am also not very knowledgable about the comparitive strenght of the aircraft and their weapons. I am asking because I don't know. Don't sweat it- it's a common & fair question. In the interest of keeping it short- The game -should- be about what reflects realism- as best that it can be. It's not- nor has it ever been- about "balance". Countries don't make machines of war worrying about balance. That said, this is a game, so one is certainly free to bastardize their planes/ game files to any degree they wish. If they choose to host a server with all that going on- go for it. You do not have that freedom in everyone's server. If the owners wish to "keep it real" than you must abide by that wish while using it- or leave. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
S77th-konkussion Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 One remark. We specially decreased performance of illegal R-27AE. It missile has maximum G-Force at 1 (one). Therefore it missile can't hit any target with this limitation. LOL !! that's great!! [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Gazehound Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Just a question, I am not trying to defend the offender or anything, but if the F-15's are using AR missles why cant the Su-27/33? Do not assume that because 27's are SAR they are inferior. If I fly a mig I use 2 ERs and 2 77s. They have longer range for a start, and make HOJ shots very powerful at altitude. Also, myself I find it easier to dodge an active missle because of the RWR countdown (in ru jets) than a SAR which gives you no indication of proximity. Of course, there are situations where active missiles are better too, and since 1.11 they have been somewhat nerfed as it is much easier to break locks by beaming. VVS504 Red Hammers
Yellonet Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Do not assume that because 27's are SAR they are inferior. If I fly a mig I use 2 ERs and 2 77s. They have longer range for a start, and make HOJ shots very powerful at altitude. Also, myself I find it easier to dodge an active missle because of the RWR countdown (in ru jets) than a SAR which gives you no indication of proximity. Of course, there are situations where active missiles are better too, and since 1.11 they have been somewhat nerfed as it is much easier to break locks by beaming.Heh?... didn't know that the Su-27 could use the R-77, or is this a balance thing? :( i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5
Gazehound Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Heh?... didn't know that the Su-27 could use the R-77, or is this a balance thing? :( Ok, again for those with bad eyesight... If I fly a mig I take 2 ERs and 2 77s VVS504 Red Hammers
Yellonet Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Ok, again for those with bad eyesight... If I fly a mig I take 2 ERs and 2 77s Hrrrrmmmm :icon_redf i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5
Maverick-90 Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Heh?... didn't know that the Su-27 could use the R-77, or is this a balance thing? :( he says: he flies a MiG, not a Su ;-) Edit: looks like sb wrote the same thing at same time
S77th-Paralyzer Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 One remark. We specially decreased performance of illegal R-27AE. It missile has maximum G-Force at 1 (one). Therefore it missile can't hit any target with this limitation. If he want he can use its missiles but anyway he remain without kills. ;) Hehe yes maybe this time he will complain that the missile slider setting is too low (50 percent).
TucksonSonny Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Ok, again for those with bad eyesight... If I fly a mig I take 2 ERs and 2 77s Considering the tactic ER HOJ with R77 next, I am pretty sure that 4xR77 is the better choice. (Even 2xET, 2xR77 is a better choice) PS. My eyesight is magnificent :rolleyes: . DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
S77th-Paralyzer Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Vosxod is a tool ! I watched him on the 504 server spamming/mad dogging and vulching, he killed me twice as i climbed outta my base ! Hes a tool and i will continue to kick/ban his ass too. What else is new. Good job on the ban.
169th_Dredd Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Well I assumed BlockedPylons.xml would play a role, but it seems to be strictly client based. So we are left with a rather inconvenient problem. How about a MP Loadout Hotfix Patch ???? With classification included. Just like 1.1... those were the days. ..now I go eat my hat. ---= 169th Panthers -Flt Lt.- =--- http://www.169thpanthers.com.au AMD64 S939 3700 | 2GB Corsair DDR500 | 21" CRT ATI Radeon X800Pro | 2x36GB WD Raptors | SB Audigy TIR3 | TM-868 | X52 | CH Pedals | Creative 5.1 Spkrs
Pilotasso Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Well I assumed BlockedPylons.xml would play a role, but it seems to be strictly client based. So we are left with a rather inconvenient problem. How about a MP Loadout Hotfix Patch ???? With classification included. Just like 1.1... those were the days. ..now I go eat my hat. LOL:biggrin: isnt BlockedPylons.xml some sort of remant of basic 1.1?:confused: .
GGTharos Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Try adding it to the server.lua and see if it's pushed through? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Alfa Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 LOL:biggrin: isnt BlockedPylons.xml some sort of remant of basic 1.1?:confused: The BlockedPylons bit has nothing to do with specific weapons being allowed - it is used for loadouts in which an item loaded on one pylon blocks the use of other. As an example, on the Su-33, the Kh-41 will take up both centerline pylons(6 & 7) when carried :) Cheers, - JJ. JJ
Vosxod Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 OK PEOPLE. I just saw this thread and could not reply earlier. But it’s amazing how in such short time my honest name was dirtied by some… ICE: I expect HUGE apologies from you as you started this shit here! I NEVER cheated with loadouts. So check you goddamn server see WTF is wrong with it! NEVER cheated with ANY game in my life! PERIOD. MrWolf-Loskins: WTF is your problem? Yes I remember this mission where I made it close to your base and saw 2 Su25 take off and head to the target. So I approached you evidentely and tried to gun you down (could have killed you 100 times with R73 btw). WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? WTF are you talking about “spamming/mad dogging and vulching”?!?! Are you out of your mind? And for you bSr.L()Csta, TucksonSonny, S77th-Paralyzer, Chizh – how can you believe I’m cheating? I’m here on the forums all the time! I’m first supporter of honest game and never new what the hell needs to be don’t to change those loadouts! I don’t even know what this R-27EA missile is! S77th-Paralyzer – it’s VERY cheap you mention missile effectiveness! Yes I think you are wrong having it on your server on max. But it’s your right – do as you wish. But you just keep attacking me for my beliefs… And you go person each time! UN-F-BELIEVABLE! Shame on you people! :icon_frow
S77th-Paralyzer Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 And for you bSr.L()Csta, TucksonSonny, S77th-Paralyzer, Chizh – how can you believe I’m cheating? I’m here on the forums all the time! I’m first supporter of honest game and never new what the hell needs to be don’t to change those loadouts! I don’t even know what this R-27EA missile is! S77th-Paralyzer – it’s VERY cheap you mention missile effectiveness! Yes I think you are wrong having it on your server on max. But it’s your right – do as you wish. But you just keep attacking me for my beliefs… And you go person each time! UN-F-BELIEVABLE! Shame on you people! :icon_frow I brought it up only because Chizh said that the EA missiles will not hit anything. Since you are using the EA missiles I was thinking maybe you can blame the inaccuracy due to the missile slider setting to 'being too low' this time around :p. I'm only messing with ya :) So what you are saying is that the EA missiles magically was loaded on your plane?
Vosxod Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 I brought it up only because Chizh said that the EA missiles will not hit anything. Since you are using the EA missiles I was thinking maybe you can blame the inaccuracy due to the missile slider setting to 'being too low' this time around :p. So what you are saying is that the EA missiles magically was loaded on your plane? Excuse me?!? You have no right to say I DO USE EA! I dont give shit about you tricky language where you imply I'm lying or whatever. But you have no right to accuse me in cheating!
504 Wolverine Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 BTW I was the second su-25 and loitering over Anapa and and engaging with Aim-120s from visual range as soon as the frogs to go wheels up numerous times is low. Doesn't matter really, seems like your no longer welcome on the 169th, S77th and 504th servers. [/url]
S77th-Paralyzer Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Excuse me?!? You have no right to say I DO USE EA! I dont give shit about you tricky language where you imply I'm lying or whatever. But you have no right to accuse me in cheating! I'm not going to argue with you. Okay you are not cheating.
Vosxod Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 BTW I was the second su-25 and loitering over Anapa and and engaging with Aim-120s from visual range as soon as the frogs to go wheels up numerous times is low. Doesn't matter really, seems like your no longer welcome on the 169th, S77th and 504th servers. What?!?! Only once I ATTACKED Su25 5 minutes AFTER IT TOOK OFF! And then I quit server to play something else! Is this prohibited in that particular mission?!? WHAT SEVERAL TIMES WHAT AIM-120?!?! Are you drunk or something?!? Or we are talking about different missions? Are you positive you actually saw me?? When was it? In any case - WHY THE F you declare that I'm banned and doomed? What's your problem? I never cheated! I only hope that admins of servers dont just ban players because of some lunatics on forum post some bogus accusations about honest people...
S77th-Paralyzer Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 What?!?! Only once I ATTACKED Su25 5 minutes AFTER IT TOOK OFF! And then I quit server to play something else! Is this prohibited in that particular mission?!? WHAT SEVERAL TIMES WHAT AIM-120?!?! Are you drunk or something?!? Or we are talking about different missions? Are you positive you actually saw me?? When was it? In any case - WHY THE F you declare that I'm banned and doomed? What's your problem? I never cheated! I only hope that admins of servers dont just ban players because of some lunatics on forum post some bogus accusations about honest people... The best thing to do here Voxsod is to possibly prove that there was an error on the screenshot Ice posted. Also check your lock on install. Have you installed any mods etc etc.(if that matters) ?
Vosxod Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 I'm not going to argue with you. Okay you are not cheating. No no no. You got that all wrong. You can argue if you like BMW or Mercedes with your friends... I DEMAND STOP calling me cheater. You UNDERSTAND? There is no argument! I will not tolerate anything else!
504 Wolverine Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Ah yes we are all lunatics, drunks and all out to get you. ;) :icon_lol: The evidence has been presented, its up to you to convince people you are innocent. EDIT: It seems you want to turn this into a flame war so I am no longer going to post on this matter. So demand all you want. [/url]
S77th-GOYA Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 I'm not going to choose a side in this. I only want to make this statement. According to the log, a pilot once dropped an F-16C on a target from his A-10A.
Vosxod Posted October 31, 2005 Posted October 31, 2005 Ah yes we are all lunatics, drunks and all out to get you. ;) :icon_lol: The evidence has been presented, its up to you to convince people you are innocent. EDIT: It seems you want to turn this into a flame war so I am no longer going to post on this matter. So demand all you want. I will investigate this evidence and see how the hell this log appeared. Till then I'd really appreciate you not to post. Thank you. P.S. I'd like to see how you would react if you was honest player and was one day out of blue accused in cheating! Also it is so cheap trick to call yourself 'us' like you are many. You are you dude. Single. Speak for you. Unless you dont have personality ...
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