Brand new TM warthog..... stock axis settngs ..issues

[Witchking]

Hi guys,

 

Just got a brand new warthog yesterday. Is this all normal? I read the warthog is perfect out of box. No need for deadzone or any other thing. Anoying to see these issues.

 

1) Started instant mission: plane rolls slightly to the right when axis is at centre...ie., untouched

 

2) Little bit of slack on the X-axis in the "ball" of the joystick. You can just about move the stick at the centre some 4-5mm or so. In target analyzer and DCS axis tune...it does register as a very tiny imput..so its not a deadzone...but a little bit of slack in the stick at the center

 

3) Here is the issue on youtube...video makes it easier: The stick moving in x-axis only..registers movement a bit in y axis. This is more so for movement in Y-axis only registering a bit of movement in x-axis. I even tried using A-10 joystick calibratiion tool 1.11 or somehting. I don''t know if it screwed it up even more.

 

images:

 

at center

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x-axis movement causes y axis movement too

 

Y axis movement causes X axis movement

 

video

 

I can try and move the stick and fight it...but I am disappointed if this is normal for such a quality product. Heck...the x-box 360 gamepad axis can be moved properly without inputs on other axis. I do have small hands...I don't know if this is my mistake either...but I tried doing it as carefully and linearly as I can...so i don't think I am screwing up moving it in one axis alone.

 

sure is a beautiful product though...damn solid and impressive. Got it at best buy. 12535 member#...so not an older batch of sticks IIRC.

 

 

Firmware is latest... 20 for throttle and 11 for stick IIRC.

Edited September 14, 2012 by Witchking

[159th_Viper]

...but I tried doing it as carefully and linearly as I can...so i don't think I am screwing up moving it in one axis alone.....

 

Is that not normal? I mean, short of hooking it up to a machine to manipulate it in the X or Y axis, there is simply no way you are going to move it along one axis alone without deviating - the Warthog is just too sensitive with the hall sensors for that to happen: It is always going to deviate either left or right when moving it up or down and visa versa.

[Witchking]

I don't know. If u have a warthog...can u please check it on yours ? Or can anyone try checking on theirs if they can move it linearly without movement on another axis. I agree...the ball on the warthog is bigger, the stick is heavier than the Xbox 360 controller which makes sense to possible issues with stick linear movement. I just want to know if its normal and if I need to apply a deadzone as people say warthog is perfect out of the box.

 

Also...I don't know if I messed up my calibration setting. Can i reset the warthog to default stock factory settings after using the calibration tool from TM??

[BIGNEWY]

do you have any other devices connected ?

 

when a device is connected to DCS it creates a default profile which includes the axis, check no other device has a axis

[Witchking]

mouse, 360 controller, track IR are connected.

[Bluedrake42]

lol idk if you've played warthog before but this is normal xD

You're going to laugh at yourself.

 

The A10C default weapon loadout is uneven from wing to wing

the TGP on the right wing is HELLA heavy, which means the aircraft will bank slightly to the right

To correct this problem just trim your aircraft to compensate for the drift

There's no problem with your hardware, its just that the game is SUPER realistic haha

Its simulating wing loadout drag and weight

 

Edit:

You'll also notice this on takoff btw, with a normal loadout with the TGP on the right your plane will drift

You have to make sure you work the pedals to keep yourself on the runway ;D

[joey45]

Try a mission with the plane clean.

[Witchking]

@Bluedrake...LOL!!! Thanks!! You are right... it was the TGP weight. I tried a clean plane from a simple ME mission and perfectly horizontal...no roll. Played warthog before...quite a bit....know the systems etc...used to play with my old X45. never noticed this before. lol! Must have thought its a stick issue and ignored it. Thanks guys!

 

What about the second issue? The movement in other axis direction? Can someone please try and check and let me know?

 

thanks

 

V

[Bluedrake42]

@Bluedrake...LOL!!! Thanks!! You are right... it was the TGP weight. I tried a clean plane from a simple ME mission and perfectly horizontal...no roll. Played warthog before...quite a bit....know the systems etc...used to play with my old X45. never noticed this before. lol! Must have thought its a stick issue and ignored it. Thanks guys!

 

What about the second issue? The movement in other axis direction? Can someone please try and check and let me know?

 

thanks

 

V

 

I think that's kinda normal, the stick is on a SUPER sensitive magnetic tracking system (or something haha idk) so I would find it hard to believe that you could move the stick perfectly along either axis without slightly moving the other.

 

And also I JUST got my TM Hotas Warthog yesterday ;D so if anyone were to help you it'd be me haha, I tested mine and it did the same thing, so I think you're fine

[Witchking]

thanks! much appreciated. :D Glad to know that nothing is wrong with my unit. I was going to wait..but thanks to a price match + an old gift card, I got a killer deal on the warthog so I jumped. Time to now clean up and take some pics for some warthog pr0n. damn this stick is freaking amazing to look at. lol

[Witchking]

Some Warthog pr0n

 

DSC_0190 by VraeV, on Flickr

 

DSC_0201 by VraeV, on Flickr

 

DSC_0195 by VraeV, on Flickr

 

DSC_0198 by VraeV, on Flickr

 

DSC_0200 by VraeV, on Flickr

[Witchking]

Quick question regarding the "Airbrake" on the right throttle. Is the cover of the switch loose for everyone? most units? I can't remember if it had that loose play from the beginning or it has developed it since use. The china hat has a bit of play too, but this one has even more play.

[Supersheep]

I had my hands on four units by now (one RMA, two in retail and mine that's sitting here) and all show some play on the airbrake switch, especially in the center position. Same for china hat and some others.

 

The center play of the stick is due to the way it is constructed. If you look into the "Greasing up the Warthog"-thread, you'll see images that explain it better than I could here.

 

 

Super-

[Witchking]

Thanks. Glad to know it isn't unique in my unit.

[Panthro]

even in real military aircraft there are imperfections in the control interfaces.

complaining to the engineers doesnt help due to limitation of the real life™ physics engine ;-)

 

I just adjusted the curves on my WH

[Witchking]

Haha! Well...its just concerning when u have a 400$ joystick with a wobbly knob when everything else is perfect. Even little things give me the creeps for the price I paid on this thing. My most expensive peripheral ever....well..apart from my DSLR and PC itself.

 

Regd. curves...I personally found the warthog to be perfect. Just no adjustments needed. Perfect centering and perfect responses.

[Panthro]

in my experience you will adjust your sensitivity curves after attempting to to inflight refueling ;-)