Megagoth1702 Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) Hey guys, I am an A-10 pilot and have no idea how the KA50 works. I just got told by a buddy in my mission that his chopper started spitting out warnings due to... Here we go... COLD, his stuff froze. It's -4°C at ground level. I can NOT imagine that RUSSIANS build a chopper that freezes under these conditions... Maybe it's a bug? What can you guys tell me! Does a KA-50 really become a little bitch when it gets a bit cold? Thanks in advance! Edited November 11, 2012 by Megagoth1702 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System specs:2500k @ 4.6 GHz 8GB RAM HD7950 OC'd Win7 x64 Posting tracks to make your DCS better - attention bump incoming!
sobek Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 Your guy should learn to utilize the anti-ice equipment. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Megagoth1702 Posted November 11, 2012 Author Posted November 11, 2012 I just gave him the link to this thread. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System specs:2500k @ 4.6 GHz 8GB RAM HD7950 OC'd Win7 x64 Posting tracks to make your DCS better - attention bump incoming!
Griffin Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 Check out the overhead panel. And of course read the manual. :)
Devrim Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 Are we talking for the version 1.2.1? Because I don't remember like a problem before. I took off in -5 or -20°C before... Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
maxxs Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 hello ok.. im the guy, witch cant read the manual :) i had rotor anti-ice on.... a the rotor is frozen. :( [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ErichVon Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) Hey guys, I am an A-10 pilot and have no idea how the KA50 works. I just got told by a buddy in my mission that his chopper started spitting out warnings due to... Here we go... COLD, his stuff froze. It's -4°C at ground level. I can NOT imagine that RUSSIANS build a chopper that freezes under these conditions... Maybe it's a bug? What can you guys tell me! Does a KA-50 really become a little bitch when it gets a bit cold? Thanks in advance! Yes. Go up in altitude in the mountains where the snowpack is. I get warnings from either the EKRAN or the overhead warning lights to turn on the deicing switches. I only got this warning once in about a year flying the Black Shark, might be a voice warning. It rarely happens to me. Somewhere in the ABRIS pages will tell you the outside air temperature. I am pretty sure each pre-programmed waypoint designates the air temperature. Best to read your mission orders before start-up. There are switches overhead where the dust choice switch is located, and left of that. The right-side wall panel deicing switch does not function in my versions of BS1 or BS2. I got the warning once. I immediately turned the switches on, I was fine. Edited November 12, 2012 by ErichVon
Ebs Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 Engine anti ice also on? (hi goth btw ;)) Check out my guide to JSGME for DCS World.
Megagoth1702 Posted November 11, 2012 Author Posted November 11, 2012 hello ok.. im the guy, witch cant read the manual :) i had rotor anti-ice on.... a the rotor is frozen. :( There he is. :) Guys, help him out. I am off back into my A-10. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System specs:2500k @ 4.6 GHz 8GB RAM HD7950 OC'd Win7 x64 Posting tracks to make your DCS better - attention bump incoming!
Yurgon Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 ok.. im the guy, witch cant read the manual :) i had rotor anti-ice on.... a the rotor is frozen. :( Define "frozen". Can you provide a track? Do the engines start correctly? Is the rotorbrake set to off? Is the problem with rotor RPM, or just with the flight instruments (airspeed, altitude)? Does something break after you get airborne? Can you get airborne at all? I haven't flown the Shark in 1.2.2 yet, but I'm very sure the Ka-50 can be operated in cold environments. Actually, it loves cold environments. :)
JG14_Smil Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) no need for a track. If you hear the rotor ice warning a couple times it is too late. It is telling you the conditions are there for icing and it will play if rotor ice is working or not. There are 4 anti-icing controls you need to use while in winter otherwise you may have a failure. Just like real life, simple 'pilot sh**". :) Edited November 11, 2012 by JG14_Smil
Bushmanni Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 There's four (4) switches for anti-ice. Engine-, rotor-, pitot- and AoA-heat. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron
Megagoth1702 Posted November 11, 2012 Author Posted November 11, 2012 Out of interest - can they overheat? Is it modeled? If yes, does it overheat in cold weather conditions? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System specs:2500k @ 4.6 GHz 8GB RAM HD7950 OC'd Win7 x64 Posting tracks to make your DCS better - attention bump incoming!
Yurgon Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Out of interest - can they overheat? Is it modeled? If yes, does it overheat in cold weather conditions? Yes, I believe they can overheat, but I don't think that's modeled. I just rechecked the Leading Edge Training video. It says the engine anti ice must not be turned on if the outside air temperature is above 5°C. To be on the safe side, I'd switch that on (along with the others) right during start up if the outside air temperature is around or below 0° (according to the mission briefing). If the air is warmer, the Ekran message is a good reminder that the chopper is now in a cold environment (usually during a climb) where it's necessary to switch on the anti ice systems. And let's not forget, we finally got a working temperature gauge in 1.2.1, so no more guesswork required. :)
AlphaOneSix Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Edit: I gave bad info in this post, corrected info is in post #17 Edited November 12, 2012 by AlphaOneSix
sobek Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Didn't somebody say once that the blade lifetime is drastically reduced if they are allowed to overheat? I seem to remember something along the lines... Edited November 12, 2012 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
AlphaOneSix Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Didn't somebody say once that the blade lifetime is drastically reduced if they are allowed to overheat? I ssem to remember something along the lines... Yes, I stand corrected. Don't turn on the rotor de-ice unless the EKRAN says to do so. Don't turn on the engine anti-ice for continuous operation above 5C (Can test for up to 5 minutes between 5C and 15C and for up to 2 minutes between 15C and 25C). Pitot and AoA are fine at any temperature.
Kite Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 hello ok.. im the guy, witch cant read the manual :) i had rotor anti-ice on.... a the rotor is frozen. :( rotor anti ice is not enough. Search for another switch in the overhead panel near rotor anti-ice that is "Engine anti ice "
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