I am new, Few questions

[pudknocker]

Hi, I am 14yr, and new to this sim. i really have enjoyed it. But I have a few questions

 

1. is there any hope of an official F-14 addon insted of the F-16?

 

2. in the top_gun_v3 is there any way to swing the wings in mid-flight?

 

3. is there a way to fix the AfterBurners?

 

4. Is there a better more F-14 "like" flight model ?

 

5. should i just stop mesing with this mod ?

[Olgerd]

We are expecting problems with an information on weapon systems of US NAVY aircrafts. May be later. I am expecting F-18 fans will appear now. So... I am outta here. Running... ;)

[pudknocker]

lol

[SuperKungFu]

Even though I love the F-14, it cannot be modeled at this time because it won’t be realistic. Not only is some of the information still classified, there is a problem when it comes to planes with 2 seats as a flyable. Because how would the player control both the front and the back seat. Unless it’s multiplayer or the back is controlled by AI. Also, it won’t be realistic since the F-14 has a wider vision since it has 2 pilots. In other words, no, there is no plans of an F-14 add-on. Sorry. As for the F-18 fans, that also can’t be modeled at this time since it doesn’t support AG radar.

[Olgerd]

Even though I love the F-14, it cannot be modeled at this time because it won’t be realistic. Not only is some of the information still classified, there is a problem when it comes to planes with 2 seats as a flyable. Because how would the player control both the front and the back seat. Unless it’s multiplayer or the back is controlled by AI. Also, it won’t be realistic since the F-14 has a wider vision since it has 2 pilots. In other words, no, there is no plans of an F-14 add-on. Sorry. As for the F-18 fans, that also can’t be modeled at this time since it doesn’t support AG radar.

 

Two seater technology (for future grouth, not for exact plane yet) and A-G radar (F-16) are in our plans already. The lack of information is always our headache. But... F-18 fans would not forgive us. Ohh... I should run faster... :D

[pudknocker]

Even though I love the F-14, it cannot be modeled at this time because it won’t be realistic. Not only is some of the information still classified, there is a problem when it comes to planes with 2 seats as a flyable. Because how would the player control both the front and the back seat. Unless it’s multiplayer or the back is controlled by AI. Also, it won’t be realistic since the F-14 has a wider vision since it has 2 pilots. In other words, no, there is no plans of an F-14 add-on. Sorry. As for the F-18 fans, that also can’t be modeled at this time since it doesn’t support AG radar.

 

that has not stoped other sims ... look a Stike fighters : project 1. Bapo created a mod f-14A/D, but you have total control why cant they do that?

[pudknocker]

... what about a F-15N :D:D

[GGTharos]

Quite simply two seaters are out of the question right now - ED wants to be able to man both seats online, for one, and there isn't enough declassified info to model an F-14. I'd like one too, personally.

[S77th-GOYA]

Olgerd, nobody can run as fast as you need to. :D

 

Hear that guys, we're getting a Hornet! ;)

[pappavis]

... that also can’t be modeled at this time since it doesn’t support AG radar.

 

Flanker 2.51 upon which lo-mac is a successor had a ground radar mode for both the Su-27 and Su-33 which they in RL apparentley dont have. So, in theory, a ground radar is possible in lo-mac. The (programming)code must still be floating around in the lo-mac code, but disabled.

 

ED, what are the chances of making the SU-30 a flyable. It does have a groundradar, doesnt it? Apparently its cokpit is similair to the su-27. But, knowing the perfectionists which ED are, they wont give us a (another russian) ground attackplane capable of flying anti-ship strikes? Bring back some Flanker2.51 functionality, please?:icon_pall

[Kula66]

Hear that guys, we're getting a Hornet! ;)

 

Oh GREAT!! :) ... on 11-Nov Olgerd promised a Hornet ... can I pre-order now?

[Woodstock]

I love this rumour spreading!:D

 

"Pst, have you heard? Some ED official promised an F-18! Cool!"

 

:icon_roll

 

As for all the things that "can´t" be done like multicrew-cockpits, etc.

We´ve seen great sims modelling twoseaters with the possibility of switching seats in flight to access all instruments and multiplayer two-client capability!

All of them were great and some did it already ten:icon_excl years ago:

 

Microprose F-15 Strike Eagle III

Microprose Fleet Defender

Digital Integration Tornado

Digital Integration Apache Longbow

Digital Integration Hind

Jane´s Longbow 1 + 2

Jane´s F-15

 

...do I need to continue?

 

Our beloved genre is dying since 5 years, would somebody please bring back the virtues that already brought success to vintage games!?!

[Yellonet]

I love this rumour spreading!:D

 

"Pst, have you heard? Some ED official promised an F-18! Cool!"

 

:icon_roll

 

As for all the things that "can´t" be done like multicrew-cockpits, etc.

We´ve seen great sims modelling twoseaters with the possibility of switching seats in flight to access all instruments and multiplayer two-client capability!

All of them were great and some did it already ten:icon_excl years ago:

 

Microprose F-15 Strike Eagle III

Microprose Fleet Defender

Digital Integration Tornado

Digital Integration Apache Longbow

Digital Integration Hind

Jane´s Longbow 1 + 2

Jane´s F-15

 

...do I need to continue?

 

Our beloved genre is dying since 5 years, would somebody please bring back the virtues that already brought success to vintage games!?!

Sure it can be done, but at the cost of lowered realism as the needed info about these aircraft are classified. Not a price I'm willing to pay.

[Olgerd]

Microprose F-15 Strike Eagle III

Microprose Fleet Defender

Digital Integration Tornado

Digital Integration Apache Longbow

Digital Integration Hind

Jane´s Longbow 1 + 2

Jane´s F-15

 

Was there two (different) clickable cockpits of one aircraft controlled by two pilots via network? Was there one plane flown by two pilots via network?

[Balu]

Was there two (different) clickable cockpits of one aircraft controlled by two pilots via network? Was there one plane flown by two pilots via network?

 

Hi

 

No, there weren´t more than one clickable cockpits in one game but something new and not reproduce evertime the same with new graphic would be nice. Futhermore XSI (Fighter OPS) try to produce something new with different clickable cockpits, two players in one plane over network and integrated communication. This not an offence only a hint if you didn´t notice XSI.

 

with regards

Balu

[Yellonet]

Hi

 

No, there weren´t more than one clickable cockpits in one game but something new and not reproduce evertime the same with new graphic would be nice. Futhermore XSI (Fighter OPS) try to produce something new with different clickable cockpits, two players in one plane over network and integrated communication. This not an offence only a hint if you didn´t notice XSI.

 

with regards

Balu

Fighter Ops... never heard of it... looks like ED is getting some competition.

[Manny]

Hi Pudknocker, welcome to the LO-MAC forums. I will make an attempt to answer your questions.

 

Hi, I am 14yr, and new to this sim. i really have enjoyed it. But I have a few questions

 

1. is there any hope of an official F-14 addon insted of the F-16?

 

Highly unlikely. I would have preferred the F-14 myself. There is available the NAVAIR 01-F14AAD-1 US Navy F-14D flight manual (NAVAIR 01-F14AAD-1, dated February 1st, 1997) at Patrick's Aviation Website, http://www.patricksaviation.com/files.php

 

I glanced through this Pudknocker and it is highly detailed. However, I am certain ED took the easy way out and decided on the F-16 because it is highly exported and details of even classified information is available.

 

2. in the top_gun_v3 is there any way to swing the wings in mid-flight?

 

If you are referring to a modification to LO-MAC to add a flyable F-14, I am not certain. When LO-MAC was Flanker 1.0, at the time a patch was released to make it 1.02, a mod was developed called ANYAC (Fly Any Aircraft). The F-14's wings were swept back using the command CTRL-P (Fold wings) but that was only possible on the ground sionce Flanker 2.0 implemented wing folding on it's Su-33 and MiG-29K. This may still be possible.

 

3. is there a way to fix the AfterBurners?

 

Are you referring to the F-14 again? Technically that is an AI aircrfat made flyable. I highly doubt it.

 

4. Is there a better more F-14 "like" flight model ?

 

Again, that is an AI aircraft made flyable. You may be able to update the model through further modification in the form of downloads.

 

5. should i just stop mesing with this mod ?

 

That would be up to you. I have not mod'd my copy of LO-MAC. I would most enjoy the ability to operate other aircraft. I do not believe ED will focus on other aircraft except what is common to their flight line, i.e. MiG-29K and what everyone everyone else has already done, i.e. F-16.

 

I own Falcon 4: Allied Force and I do not think ED will ever come close to modelling the F-16 in Falcon 4. I would like to see them put effort, in a new simulation, into unique approaches then cookie-cutter stuff already developed to death. Oh well perhaps in an entirely new sim unrelated to ED. Jet Thunder and Fighter Ops look promising.

[Manny]

We are expecting problems with an information on weapon systems of US NAVY aircrafts. May be later. I am expecting F-18 fans will appear now. So... I am outta here. Running... ;)

 

NAVAIR 01-F14AAD-1 US Navy F-14D flight manual (NAVAIR 01-F14AAD-1, dated February 1st, 1997). http://www.patricksaviation.com/files.php

 

Olgerd, please point your browser accordingly. I think an F-14 would make a fine addition to LO-MAC particularly since that aircraft is the least modeled in the flight simulation genre. The F/A-18, like the F-16, is modeled to death and would certainly bore me.

 

Of course the F-14 is a two-seater and that would , of course, encourage you to incorporate cooperative play ...

[Yellonet]

Flight manual isn't the only thing that is needed. A manual for the tactical instruments are very important.

[Manny]

Even though I love the F-14, it cannot be modeled at this time because it won’t be realistic. Not only is some of the information still classified, there is a problem when it comes to planes with 2 seats as a flyable. Because how would the player control both the front and the back seat. Unless it’s multiplayer or the back is controlled by AI. Also, it won’t be realistic since the F-14 has a wider vision since it has 2 pilots. In other words, no, there is no plans of an F-14 add-on. Sorry. As for the F-18 fans, that also can’t be modeled at this time since it doesn’t support AG radar.

 

KungFu I disagree with you. If anything, it would encourage ED to be innovative, creative, and not simply "follow the crowd". This is an opportunity ED should jump on. The F-14 is not highly simulated like the F-16 or F/A-18 and even being a two-seat aircraft would encourage ED to use Brit's Cooperative play code. These are simply excuses, not legitimate reasons to avoid developeing the F-14.

 

Also, the Flight Manual is freely available at Patrick's Aviation Website, files section. Who cares if some areas are still classified. That didn't stop Microprose from developing F-14 Fleet Defender, still considered the de-facto standard for the F-14 on the PC.

[Manny]

Two seater technology (for future grouth, not for exact plane yet) and A-G radar (F-16) are in our plans already. The lack of information is always our headache. But... F-18 fans would not forgive us. Ohh... I should run faster... :D

 

Olgerd, yes you should run faster, toward the development of the F-14 using the Flight Manual available at Patrick's Aviation Website and the Two Seater technology from BritGlider.

 

http://www.patricksaviation.com/files.php

 

Well done, good job, I look forward to it. :icon_jook

[Manny]

Flight manual isn't the only thing that is needed. A manual for the tactical instruments are very important.

 

Ok Yellonet, have any idea where it is? I will perform a search for it or ask my brother who is an F/A-18 pilot if he can get me one. If you or I can locate it, then the smoking gun is in ED's pocket. Either blaze away with it or drop the proverbial ball but it would be clear then that ED has no excuse not to model the F-14D.

[Yellonet]

Ok Yellonet, have any idea where it is? I will perform a search for it or ask my brother who is an F/A-18 pilot if he can get me one. If you or I can locate it, then the smoking gun is in ED's pocket. Either blaze away with it or drop the proverbial ball but it would be clear then that ED has no excuse not to model the F-14D.

Yes, and let your brother be court martialled for dealing out secret documents.

[GGTharos]

Was there two (different) clickable cockpits of one aircraft controlled by two pilots via network? Was there one plane flown by two pilots via network?

 

 

I think there was in Jane's LongBow 2. I never got th eopportunity to try but since I still have the game, maybe I will :)

 

They had front and back cockpit each controllable by a different player, and you could fly up to 2 helicopters online like this (ie. 2 helicopters with 2 player crew each)

[Cosmonaut]

Quick someone grab Olgerd .. ;)

 

Hear that guys, we're getting a Hornet! ;)

 

 

Ah that's a nice fantasy world mind if I join you..? Right its official!!.. F16 will be put on hold untill we get an F18.. :tongue: