Collisions In Game, Intentional or Not

[DieHard]

I have had collisions in game where I definitely died in my copter and the other guy may have.

 

The question arises to me, was it a deliberate head-on ram, or an accident just getting too close?

 

I was on the 74th's server a few months ago in my Ka-50, one of the 74th_"username" fellows was horsing around flying his F-15 too close and he eventually ran into me. We both went down. The 74th squad is a no nonsense server. It was an accident, the guy apologized to me for it.

 

Last night, 104th server, also a no nonsense server with fairly strict rules and they sometimes enforce the rules. I was returning in my copter from Alpha with a mess of GV kills, the Oxbow mission. The Red side's, 4 pad FARP was full except my spot. I hovered, low behind them waiting for them to takeoff, then I would land, refuel, rearm and go again. Some wiseguy, but not a 104th_"username" member, decided for whatever reason to ram me. I would like to think it was an accident. I went down. Especially the 104th's server and their anti-cheating nature, still, wiseguys still abound there.

 

I know who both guys are, but their usernames do not need to be known.

 

FRONT_END and Lag:

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/lag/lag.htm

 

Some gamers, those in the know, utilize this knowledge to their advantage and like to force it, especially in the flight sim, "Aces High".

 

I am getting so PO'd about the Multiplayer nonsense, I think I will just fly in Single Player and do the process of creating my own missions.

 

I finally "won" the Ka-50 Battle.miz in Single Player. I learned the Ka-50 flying it on the various Multiplayer servers. I am finally getting good enough that I am almost on an even keel with the SP, AI.

 

Well, I usually am up wee hours in NY due to many years working night shift and at my age, I don't sleep much, anyway. I usually am playing Single Player in Multiplayer, anyway; everybody is sleeping or working.

 

(edit at about 5AM my time):

I see the subject of front end has been discussed in the past. I just did a search of this sub-folder in the archive. A few hits returned my inquiry.

Edited March 25, 2013 by DieHard

[Devilman]

its very common for this type of stuff to happen on an open server. it is really frustraiting when you are RTB after very successful sortie only to have a moron do something silly.

 

personally i like doing flybys, i like to think i make people spil there coffee.

 

my other favourite thing at the moment is playing chicken in a T-72 when people are taking off. :music_whistling:

 

I only do this on my own servers :thumbup:

[JG14_Smil]

More likely to see a dummy ram you than use coop tactics now days in public MP.

 

I've really seen enough of wingtip smoke and burning wreckage that kills FPS. Yes, the magic is gone.

[VH-Rock]

I think a part of the problem is that a lot of kids from FSX have moved over since Gamespy closed down, recently. Running the Virtual Aerobatics server, I see countless people come in and intentionally ram people on the ground - sure, it earns them a permanent ban, but I shouldn't be having to ban people for such stupid things anyway. One thing I've learned so far is that whether it's multiplayer in DCS, another simulator or any other aspect of life, for that matter, there will always be idiots that choose to spoil the fun for the majority who abide by the rules.

 

We have plenty of low fly bys and people "buzzing" the airfield and yes, occasionally it can go wrong - but if it's not intentional, it's not a problem - to borrow a common phrase "Shit happen". It's a shame that there are a few people that feel the need to act that way, but those few are not enough to stop me from flying online. If I were you, I would find yourself a squad or a good group of guys to fly with and just stick with them - it's far more enjoyable working online as part of a team than by yourself and, if you know everybody there, you know you're not going to have an issue with idiots.

 

The Virtual Aerobatics server has pretty clear rules... We've had countless people join, add weapons to their aircraft and shoot down entire formations, bomb the airfield causing lag for everybody or deliberately crash into other members and then claim that they didn't realise there was no combat in the servers. Personally, I find that very hard to believe. These people expect to join a server, push a button and go fly - In my opinion, DCS is not where they should be, if that is what they want to do. It is hugely frustrating, but for every idiot out there, there are several hundred members who abide by the rules and have a good time. We strictly moderate our server on a 1 warning, 1 ban policy and we're slowly getting less and less people in that choose to break the rules.

 

Don't let the few stop you from enjoying the good times with the many ;)

[RIPTIDE]

Diehard. That's unfortunate. And it happens. As with the 104th, any tracks or names or anything you can always pass on to us privately.

 

Some of these are accidents and some not.

[Frostie]

 

FRONT_END and Lag:

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/lag/lag.htm

 

Some gamers, those in the know, utilize this knowledge to their advantage and like to force it, especially in the flight sim, "Aces High".

 

I am getting so PO'd about the Multiplayer nonsense, I think I will just fly in Single Player and do the process of creating my own missions.

 

Diehard i'm not totally with you on how serious this is, from what I can make out you've had this happen twice now in DCS, one of those being an obvious accident by an over eager to impress pilot followed up by an immediate apology, which leaves a one off that may have been lag or bad piloting amongst many other innocent reasons, or pure malice. The only reason you point at foul play is because of experience/knowledge of this happening and controlled with a totally different sim.

 

If you're trying to imply that someone intentionally lagged into you in DCS meaning to cause you damage and none to themselves then sorry but I think you're way off base and being exceptionally paranoid.

 

Some gamers, those in the know, utilize this knowledge to their advantage and like to force it, especially in the flight sim, "Aces High". But not in DCS.

 

I see the subject of front end has been discussed in the past. I just did a search of this sub-folder in the archive. A few hits returned my inquiry.

In the last 8+ years of using ED software online I have never once heard of any issues about front end and utilising this knowledge to create controlled collisons or anything other than uncontrollable lag.

[benargee]

i don't see a problem with any kind of player, as long as they are in the right place. Ya sure if you want to join a server with like minded individuals who enjoy dying after a 5 minute startup so be it. Hell, i even like to mess around once in awhile, but mostly in SP. i think like any game, you have better luck in private servers, or joining a group of people you know.

[VH-Rock]

VH, I remember I came into land and I had a collision with you!:lol: On Virtual aerobatics server. I claimed I had ATC clearance when you had an emergency (my bad) hehe! I did try to accelerate and takeoff but the hog was too slow! I apologize again that was an accident, but a memorable time! :pilotfly:

"Shit happens" dude - although I appreciate the apology any and offer my own. I tend not to use ATC on line as 50% of people ignore it anyway... Either way, all in good fun.

[Taproot]

Diehard. That's unfortunate. And it happens. As with the 104th, any tracks or names or anything you can always pass on to us privately.

 

Some of these are accidents and some not.

 

hah! I crashed in you Rip on the VA server a while back. You where in a Ka-50 hovering over a friend. I never saw you. Well, I did, but then it was too late.. ><

 

But I do agree, some people are just playing to ruin for others. I was gonna attempt refuel on the VA server I think when this turd shot down the tanker and left..

 

And yet again I agree. You have to have the IQ of a dinosaur to not understand the rules on the VA server.

[DieHard]

Diehard i'm not totally with you on how serious this is, from what I can make out you've had this happen twice now in DCS, one of those being an obvious accident by an over eager to impress pilot followed up by an immediate apology, which leaves a one off that may have been lag or bad piloting amongst many other innocent reasons, or pure malice. The only reason you point at foul play is because of experience/knowledge of this happening and controlled with a totally different sim.

 

If you're trying to imply that someone intentionally lagged into you in DCS meaning to cause you damage and none to themselves then sorry but I think you're way off base and being exceptionally paranoid.

 

Some gamers, those in the know, utilize this knowledge to their advantage and like to force it, especially in the flight sim, "Aces High". But not in DCS.

 

 

In the last 8+ years of using ED software online I have never once heard of any issues about front end and utilising this knowledge to create controlled collisons or anything other than uncontrollable lag.

 

I think he got too close, and thus, why I posted the link. But I doubt he will see it or read it.

 

In DCS, you guys rarely get close enough as to a prop plane with guns only. I know, they fly here, guns only, too.

 

When I am waiting my turn to land in my copter, and a guy takes off and instead of heading out to the target area, turns around 180 degrees and flies over to me and rams me deliberately, or flies by close-enough to be a wiseguy and got too close, I do not think I am paranoid at all. The guy did not have a wing pod weapons load. I have to wonder about it. I should have submitted the .trk file. Next time, I will wait farther away.

 

I mentioned no names.

 

I have been flying the servers to DCS about 3 years. Have flown the copter about a year. I have encountered this scenario 2 or 3 times to date. The unlocked servers, as you probably know, are where the crap happens, not just rams, which I have seen a fair amount, the crap. The 104th is unlocked, so it goes...

Edited March 26, 2013 by DieHard

[DieHard]

hah! I crashed in you Rip on the VA server a while back. You where in a Ka-50 hovering over a friend. I never saw you. Well, I did, but then it was too late.. ><

 

But I do agree, some people are just playing to ruin for others. I was gonna attempt refuel on the VA server I think when this turd shot down the tanker and left..

 

And yet again I agree. You have to have the IQ of a dinosaur to not understand the rules on the VA server.

 

A few months ago, I was on the 74th's server, the Dynamo Phase 2, mission. I landed my copter to rearm, then took off. I flew right up and underneath a returning AI copter and never saw him---poof!

[VH-Rock]

A few months ago, I was on the 74th's server, the Dynamo Phase 2, mission. I landed my copter to rearm, then took off. I flew right up and underneath a returning AI copter and never saw him---poof!

 

Yep, it happens. I've been flying formation aerobatics and display flying for 8 years now and I still make mistakes. I'll go to 'buzz' a friend and slightly clip him or misjudge it completely and kill us both. Accidents do happen and we should all accept that it's a part of online play. It's just the deliberate rule breakers who try to ruin everyone's fun that need to be sorted out.

[Pman]

"Shit happens" dude - although I appreciate the apology any and offer my own. I tend not to use ATC on line as 50% of people ignore it anyway... Either way, all in good fun.

 

Just to back Rock up really, we have all been hit by people doing fly bys or buzzing and sometimes shit does just happen, no harm no foul :)

 

I tend to ignore the ATC as not everyone can speak good english and to be honest the past few weeks its not uncommon for us to have 20 pilots flying on the server. If I could turn it all off I think I would.

 

hah! I crashed in you Rip on the VA server a while back. You where in a Ka-50 hovering over a friend. I never saw you. Well, I did, but then it was too late.. ><

 

But I do agree, some people are just playing to ruin for others. I was gonna attempt refuel on the VA server I think when this turd shot down the tanker and left..

 

And yet again I agree. You have to have the IQ of a dinosaur to not understand the rules on the VA server.

 

Rock, the others and I work hard to try and make sure that people adhere to the rules on the VA server, Its not hard and kinda self explanatory. I am totally perplexed when I meet someone who says that they went into the Virtual Aerobatics server and thought it was a combat server...