Name & Shame (possible) LOPE CHEATER

[504MrWolf]

Ok the screenshot shows a pilot on the 504 server last night (09.10.05) around 23:00 zulu.

 

Name : BARCAP

Plane : Su-27

LOPE'd Weapon/s : R-27EM and AiM-54

 

He was spotted and questioned about his dodgy load whilst he took of on the taxiway (real pro ;)). He then fired x1 27EM and x3 AIM54 and then exited the server.

 

This payload was not used at any other point in the night and the 17 pages of debrief have been checked.

 

Server admins keep your eye out for him !:cool:

 

Regards Wolf

 

EDIT**We do accept that it couldve been someone using his name in HL, this is why im giving a HEADSUP to admins and other players so they are aware or this BARCAP entity and not simply branding him and banning him.

[Woodstock]

hehe, stupid didn´t even hit sh#t with the uber missiles...:tongue:

We´ll keep a lookout for him, thanx!

:icon_axe:

[Han]

David,

You remember, that debriefing have a bug:

 

All events related with current mission's plane will be listed on this plane last pilot in debrief.

 

You're sure that this player have not happen round in following situation:

- MisterX have entered the game and took the plane #XX.

- MisterX on plane XX have cheated and exited the mission.

- After that barcap have entered the mission on same plane XX and debriefing have wrote that barcap have cheated.

 

Same situation was a some time ago between 169th_Ice (server manager) and Voshhod player.

 

So, you're sure?

[Han]

Best proves will be a screenshot with his plane in F2 view, nick and AIM-54 payloaded.

Or

The screenshot with message like:

"Barcap have killed Han with AIM-54"

or

the mp_log.txt file with such message

[S77th-konkussion]

SO if this bug has affected an unknowing pilot- Would the screenshot of his plane in an F2 style angle show an AIM-54 loaded or not ?

[TucksonSonny]

Ok the screenshot shows a pilot on the 504 server last night (09.10.05) around 23:00 zulu.

 

Name : BARCAP

Plane : Su-27

LOPE'd Weapon/s : R-27EM and AiM-54

 

He was spotted and questioned about his dodgy load whilst he took of on the taxiway (real pro ;)). He then fired x1 27EM and x3 AIM54 and then exited the server.

 

This payload was not used at any other point in the night and the 17 pages of debrief have been checked.

 

Server admins keep your eye out for him !:cool:

 

Regards Wolf

 

 

I don’t understand why he was using R-27EM (EM cheat on Su-27) because in 1.11 EM has the same range as ER. It is anyway a faster missile in the 1.11 encyclopedia but I can’t say that I ever noticed advantage with EM’s on the su-33.

The AIM54 is useless like R-27ER is also in 1.11.

[Gazehound]

I don’t understand why he was using R-27EM (EM cheat on Su-27) because in 1.11 EM has the same range as ER. It is anyway a faster missile in the 1.11 encyclopedia but I can’t say that I ever noticed advantage with EM’s on the su-33.

 

The AIM54 is useless like R-27ER is also in 1.11.

 

The EM is faster in the actual game too. The missiles' (ER & EM) motors burn for the same length of time but the EM accelerates to a higher max speed, therefore EM is closer to the target with more energy when the motor burns out, which is an advantage. Also it hits the target sooner which is obviously an advantage especially with SAR.

[Quirkitized]

Be careful going around posting SS's of people abusing LOPE. It is very easy to change your name to somebody you hate and ruin their reputation.

 

When I use to play this game frequently, some of our squad mates had the problem as well. There is no online system for protecting your name, no user accounts. Simply login to hl with your hl name, join the game and change your name their.

 

But other than that, more power to people that want to show people who abuse this. I would get very frustrated playing a A10 coop game using bombs and a couple mavs, then 2 or 3 people join with 12 IR Mavs. It's to bad locked loadouts were taken out in the new patch.

[504MrWolf]

David,

You remember, that debriefing have a bug:

 

All events related with current mission's plane will be listed on this plane last pilot in debrief.

 

You're sure that this player have not happen round in following situation:

- MisterX have entered the game and took the plane #XX.

- MisterX on plane XX have cheated and exited the mission.

- After that barcap have entered the mission on same plane XX and debriefing have wrote that barcap have cheated.

 

Same situation was a some time ago between 169th_Ice (server manager) and Voshhod player.

 

So, you're sure?

 

There was no other instance of this loadout in the server untill the minute "BARCAP" joined, (504)Wolverine witnessed in game "BARCAP's" plane loaded with the non-standard load. Wolverine questioned him and "BARCAP then took off on the taxiway and fired off the noted quantity of "illegal" missiles.

 

To ReCap:

 

-No previous instance of the loadout.

-Eye witness report from member of 504.

News just in :-

-After BACAP left (504)Grizzly entered the mission on the same plane and he too had the same load on debrief later. Some people accused him of using AIM54 also, I know Grizzly wouldnt have this load intentionally as he is the CO of our FighterWing.

 

We do accept that it couldve been someone using his name in HL, this is why im giving a HEADSUP to admins and other players so they are aware or this BARCAP entity and not simply branding him and banning him.

 

Regards

Wolfie

[TucksonSonny]

New scandal on =RAF=Dedicated about 15 minutes ago.

169th_Taipan or somebody (flying F-15C for Blue) using his name was cheating with stealth missiles (with no warning, and missiles don’t show up in briefing)

[GGTharos]

Stealth missiles! Where do I get some?!

 

I think this is an effect caused when the custom meinit on the client is out of sync with the server's meinit.

[S77th-konkussion]

This happens when the client makes a change to a default loadout but does not click "save". Been known about for ages.

[GGTharos]

I was pretty certain that this got 'cured' in 1.1.

 

I'll have to check it out.

[Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN]

and a merry xmas to all :)

[Guest IguanaKing]

Merry xmas to you too, Scotsman. :D I'm glad I haven't been branded as a cheater yet...I often change my default loadout, and I wasn't aware I had to hit "save". Nah...nobody would accuse me of cheating...I'm new to the whole on-line thing with the A-10 and get my butt kicked quite regularly. :icon_jook I did see an A-10 last night on the AOE server, in JAWS camo that did some rather spectacular maneuvering though. It didn't matter, he was flying too low and got Strela'd shortly after takeoff.

[Guest Cali]

I would just like to say that 169 memebers do not cheat and many other squads forbid cheating also.

[Pilotasso]

If 1.12 features MP weapons load lock (1 or more pre defined loads) the stealth missile and LOPE cheats will be gone. Theres no need to mess deeper into the code and delay 1.12 when the bugs start a chain rection.

 

AFAIK this load locking can be donne via external files, and also this would indirectly inpose ROE too.

[TucksonSonny]

I would just like to say that 169 memebers do not cheat and many other squads forbid cheating also.

 

That guy got warnings from 3 people including me that something was wrong but would not listen.

He just keeps making kills while others were saying that his missiles were not appearing in the briefing.

The save bug was corrected before 1.11 and these missiles were not showing up!

Thus I consider this as a cheat! I also realize that you can change names easy.

[bSr.LCsta]

the invisible missiles are annoying as hell, but the funny thing is that the player using them will not get credit for his kills (at least thats how it was in 1.02). What's the point?

[Rastus]

Mmmm, Cant imagine Taipan "cheating". He is a real genuine nice guy.

 

I take it you have a screen shot that shows that he was loaded with aim120's, so it would not have been a "Lope" cheat. Just the fact that his missiles were invisable.

 

If it was a meinit fault there isnt much we can do about this, If the loadout wasnt saved or there is a bug, that should be something we can reproduce in a test.

 

Would be interested to know if anyone else has seen this "invisable missile" fault.

[Force_Feedback]

Big deal, I made a mig29 with 22 pylons (just discovered that the 12 pylon limit we had in 1.02 is gone). But then again, somebody can edit the .lua and have like 20 missiles on each pylon and spam away with those ARH missiles (surprisingly no one picks the mica rf). Big deal, play fair, play hard, fly low and fast. :p

[Guest ruggbutt]

Big deal, I made a mig29 with 22 pylons (just discovered that the 12 pylon limit we had in 1.02 is gone). But then again, somebody can edit the .lua and have like 20 missiles on each pylon and spam away with those ARH missiles (surprisingly no one picks the mica rf). Big deal, play fair, play hard, fly low and fast. :p

Are all of your posts like this one and the RTFM one? Ignorant I mean..........

[Weta43]

No - he's made some very helpful posts, but someone poked him with a grumpy stick.

[Guest IguanaKing]

Nah...no grumpy stick. Force is just a smartarse...it takes a little while to get used to him. He's a good guy though.

[Cougar]

Here we will test this out and see what happens.