LexiconG2 Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Today I landed in the river and did not explode. The cool thing is that I was floating down river. :-) Anyways there is a point to this and that is will the 64-bit concept take away to stutters I am having because I am running a 660 OEM and a 3770K I7 16GB RAM. Though in missions there is slowness when I fly along I am getting 70+ FPS even at airport and near ground but when I drop INC. cluster bombs there is massive stutters. Seems like with the 32-bit limitation the 64-BIT version this should not happen any more? Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
louisv Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 The cluster bomb stutter is a known issue, they are working on it. Now you may have 16 GB of memory in your box but with a 32-bit Windows you can only use 4 GB as 2^32 (2 to the power 32) is 4 GB. You need a 64-bit operating system to reach beyond the 4 GB addressing limit. So you need to upgrade to 64. MSI Z170A Titanium Edition mobo + 6700K CPU 32 GB G.Skill TridentZ memory 3200 MHz Sandisk Extreme Pro 256 GB SSD Samsung 950 Pro 512 GB M.2 SSD (3 GB/s) for DCS and +. HP ZR24W Monitor, EVGA GTX 1080ti FE Thrustmaster Warthog, MFG CrossWind rudder... and Oculus Rift CV1.
Hamblue Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Don't think he meant he was running 32 bit os but wanted to know if things will get better when the game becomes 64 bit only. To the OP, That remains to be seen. Best thing to do is experiment with your settings. While you can get good results with your set-up you won't be able to max-out on settings. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
NhiTrac Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 64 bit at this very moment will not fix the CBU stutters. Mine drops to about 0.5FPS! Hopefully this will change in the next patch Intel i5 4670 | GTX 970 | 8 gb Ram | Windows 10 Thrustmaster Warthog | Saitek Rudders | Logitech G27 | Astro A40
LexiconG2 Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) The cluster bomb stutter is a known issue, they are working on it. Now you may have 16 GB of memory in your box but with a 32-bit Windows you can only use 4 GB as 2^32 (2 to the power 32) is 4 GB. You need a 64-bit operating system to reach beyond the 4 GB addressing limit. So you need to upgrade to 64. I have a Masters degree in Information Systems. I am using Windows 8 64-bit I have not used 32-bit since Windows XP x64 came out. Edited April 12, 2013 by LexiconG2 Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
LexiconG2 Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Don't think he meant he was running 32 bit os but wanted to know if things will get better when the game becomes 64 bit only. To the OP, That remains to be seen. Best thing to do is experiment with your settings. While you can get good results with your set-up you won't be able to max-out on settings. There really is no need to change settings things don't get better because the slowness when it happens it's not a normal thing even with sims like this. I suppose I am not sure how objects in the world are using system resources. So I am hoping that 64-bit will change CPU and memory usage as it should. I can max out just fine. Your 680 is not giving you more then me and my I7 3770 is not doing better then your 2600k which is the problem I am talking about. (32-bit limitations) Edited April 12, 2013 by LexiconG2 Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
LexiconG2 Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 64 bit at this very moment will not fix the CBU stutters. Mine drops to about 0.5FPS! Hopefully this will change in the next patch Even with system diffrences mine is about the same. Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
LexiconG2 Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Also it's not possible to use multi-core on 32-bit correct me if I am wrong. Edited April 12, 2013 by LexiconG2 Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
tintifaxl Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Also it's not possible to use multi-core on 32-bit correct me if I am wrong. Wrong. Just take a look at the taskmanager when Photoshop or Premiere run on a 32bit Windows system. They use all the cores they can get. Furthermore I don't understand your 32bit/64bit questions. DCS is a 64bit application, where do the 32bit come into play? Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
LexiconG2 Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 Wrong. Just take a look at the taskmanager when Photoshop or Premiere run on a 32bit Windows system. They use all the cores they can get. Furthermore I don't understand your 32bit/64bit questions. DCS is a 64bit application, where do the 32bit come into play? Thats is my question is it a 32-bit app and they are going to only support 64-bit or what? Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
_Dredd Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I had thought that at present DCS World is still 32bit application coded but it's compatible with 64bit OS; and ie; still can only address 4GB memory space. Someone mentioned if you were running x64 then the download would install as 64bit version; but I'm unsure whether it's a true 64bit application as yet. Ive noticed game crashes where DCS was at the 4GB memory limit; so maybe someone can check the truth in being true 64bit compatible version at present; or just being 32bit compatible 64bit application. If that make sense? Curious if anyone has actually monitored task manager processes to see what maximum memory DCS actually gets too. Current Flight Rig i7 4960X @ 4.6Ghz ASUS Rampage IV Formula G.SKILL TridentX 2400Mhz 32GB DDR3 Crucial 1TB MX300 SSD MSI Gaming X 1080Ti Samsung 55" JS8000 SUHD 4K Windows 10 x64 TrackIR 5, Warthog HOTAS Saitek Pro Flight Combat Pedals Custom Akers-Barnes, MkI eyeball.
karambiatos Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Wait? Is this you? A 1000 flights, a 1000 crashes, perfect record. =&arrFilter_pf[gameversion]=&arrFilter_pf[filelang]=&arrFilter_pf[aircraft]=&arrFilter_DATE_CREATE_1_DAYS_TO_BACK=&sort_by_order=TIMESTAMP_X_DESC"] Check out my random mods and things
Kameni Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 2GB HD I think you need to correct your signature, sry for the off-topic, but imagine that config with 2GB hard disk :D
71st_Mastiff Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I think you need to correct your signature, sry for the off-topic, but imagine that config with 2GB hard disk :D I think he meant 2gb High Definition? :smartass: :pilotfly: :joystick: "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || Z10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/ G502LogiMouse || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
louisv Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) I have a Masters degree in Information Systems. I am using Windows 8 64-bit I have not used 32-bit since Windows XP x64 came out. Sorry, totally misunderstood your post. My bad. And I can see your rig is slightly overclocked, so really I should have noticed...32-bit...overclocked...hmmm. Sorry again, I know how that feels. Edited April 13, 2013 by louisv error MSI Z170A Titanium Edition mobo + 6700K CPU 32 GB G.Skill TridentZ memory 3200 MHz Sandisk Extreme Pro 256 GB SSD Samsung 950 Pro 512 GB M.2 SSD (3 GB/s) for DCS and +. HP ZR24W Monitor, EVGA GTX 1080ti FE Thrustmaster Warthog, MFG CrossWind rudder... and Oculus Rift CV1.
Kameni Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 I think he meant 2gb High Definition? :smartass: :pilotfly: :joystick: 660 GTX 1.5GB - Graphic Accelerator 2GB HD - ? Pardon me for being dumb, but 2 Gigabytes of Hight Definition - of what, if the GPU is already listed? I'm missing the point.
LexiconG2 Posted April 16, 2013 Author Posted April 16, 2013 660 GTX 1.5GB - Graphic Accelerator 2GB HD - ? Pardon me for being dumb, but 2 Gigabytes of Hight Definition - of what, if the GPU is already listed? I'm missing the point. Should be TB changed. Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
LexiconG2 Posted April 16, 2013 Author Posted April 16, 2013 I had thought that at present DCS World is still 32bit application coded but it's compatible with 64bit OS; and ie; still can only address 4GB memory space. Someone mentioned if you were running x64 then the download would install as 64bit version; but I'm unsure whether it's a true 64bit application as yet. Ive noticed game crashes where DCS was at the 4GB memory limit; so maybe someone can check the truth in being true 64bit compatible version at present; or just being 32bit compatible 64bit application. If that make sense? Curious if anyone has actually monitored task manager processes to see what maximum memory DCS actually gets too. This is really what I am asking but I believe this is the case. The engine when upgraded to EDGE will be much better I am sure as well as better looking. Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
LexiconG2 Posted April 16, 2013 Author Posted April 16, 2013 Wait? Is this you? I was up right.... and in the river floating down stream. ;-P Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
tintifaxl Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 Thats is my question is it a 32-bit app and they are going to only support 64-bit or what? The dcs.exe that is running on my 64-bit Windows is a 64-bit app. You can check this in the taskmanager on a 64-bit Windows, while running the sim (running a mission). dcs.exe -> 64-bit dcs.exe*32 -> 32-bit Very easy. :smartass: Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
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