Damage model, maybe not perfect yet :D

[BaD CrC]

OK. I can admit the Ka-50 can fly without the tail, but can you really do an autorotation with only a third of your blades length irl and survive? Because with DCS, you can....

[winz]

except that the pilot and most of the important equipment are protected by armor......

AFAIK the only thing protected besides the pilot is the gearbox. Everything else is covered by light plating that can be penetrated even by small arms fire.

Keep in mind that armour is heavy and you want that thing to fly and be maneuverable ;)

[Weta43]

nevermind :)

[Robert1983NL]

Even if the KA-50 can fly without a tail, it's virtually impossible that an impact severing that much airframe wouldn't spray the rest of the chopper with fatal amounts of shrapnel. So it's not quite right unless you were attacked with a laser/chainsaw.

 

Nah.

 

Some helicopters can take quite a beating. It's not impossible like you say at all.

[Oznerol256]

Apart from that kind of stuff, i think it is a pity that the Black Shark doesnt leave great debris like the A-10C after it is destroyed. This makes me do funny stuff in my missions (like using a trigger to destroy a static ka50 in order for the player to see the downed black shark)

[AlphaOneSix]

AH-64 can fly with power on with no tail rotor thrust at around 90 knots.

[maturin]

Nah.

 

Some helicopters can take quite a beating. It's not impossible like you say at all.

First of all, I never said it was impossible, just an unrealistic expectation.

 

And 'helicopters can take a beating' is a meaninglessly vague statement applied to the most fragile machines ever used by mankind for war.

[Haukka81]

Nah.

 

Some helicopters can take quite a beating. It's not impossible like you say at all.

 

 

Nope, you think wrong if you think that Apache can take full brust of ZU-23 and fly etc..

 

It's very fragile, some armor in engines and some more in cocpit but side windows can't take many hits 14,6mm or smilar :book:

 

maybe best armor is in hind and even that will come down if hit from manpad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBJ8e_IVOO0

 

 

 

-haukka81

[Davis0079]

Back on topic....i like the damage model in this game and even though I have see some tight situations...make no mistake, my Ka-50 comes out of the sky like a bag of bricks from the slightest hits....so even though some screenshots are posted of you flying home with no tail, I feel you will learn to use the ejection seat more than you fly home crippled

[Kaktus29]

i would say choppers if armoured like hind, havoc and ka-50 can take hits and survive.. not always but getting hit in tail and if you have ka-50 i wouldn't say 100% destruction of engine,and blades is in the runs..

 

there were cases where hind was hit with a stinger in one of the engines and the chopper survived, pilots survived ..in fact it was like this that they came up with Igla, .. one of the warheads didn't explode, got stuck on it, they brought it back to base.. can't imagine the pilots talking to ATC.. "hei boys, we got something for you, from courtesy of CIA we bring you Stinger missile) wasn't this the same way Atoll was modelled?.. after it was jammed in Mig-19 or Mig-21 in Vietnam? ..

Edited May 8, 2013 by sobek

[sobek]

Let's keep the politics off the board.

[Pikey]

This argument is like saying if a person was shot by a gun they wouldn't survive. Then it turned into something about religion. Can we at least stay close to topic for sanitys sake?

I'd be more interested in the loss of half a blade as the OP suggested they were surprised at. the tail sounds perfectly physically acceptable to lose, a blade sounds much worse, is it possible to fly with half a blade gone and how much tolerance is there for this?