PeroperoDokkiri Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Thank You! That area in the center You mentioned- it is purely non FFB area, but user input gets recognized, right? I am about to get this joystick. EDIT: also with extended stick can You fly with linear axis? [sIGPIC]http://i55.tinypic.com/21oydlx.jpg[/sIGPIC] ヒューイ最高!o(≧∇≦o)
Emmer Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 So far , so good! Having the saturations of the Huey at 70% now the helo is much much more stable.Thats for x and y. Easy to handle;hovering with no problems. Thanks alot all, for the information regarding the deadzone's , curves and saturations. [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
P1KW Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Hi. The G940 is a very good option for helicopters with ForceTrim. I would say that the best if you are willing to modding you HOTAS. I invited a real pilot to test my cockpit controls, and I had to throw a kick, not going ... (kidding) It was very satisfied with the sense of realism. While I recognize that I have "good hands" with helicopters thanks to X-Plane, my first few hours in the Huey were absolutely "normal", and I could do all sorts of maneuvers normally, largely thanks to my G940. I have not experienced the problems reported various users to control the Huey. Posing in the tower is relatively easy for me. I should also note that the difficulties in controlling the Huey, start in your hand, not your HOTAS. You must think like a helicopter pilot. Huey can be controlled with any HOTAS. You may know them, but leave some information about my G940 MOD. The easy and simple option, but more fragile. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=84518 The option to fixed wing and rotor. Long and short extension. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1386793#post1386793 Working with the pedals, see past posts. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=92629 More information, sorry, in Spanish. http://www.cruzdesanandres.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8790&start=15 Greetings! edit: It is not recommended to use curves in the G940. Prohibited use dead zones in the G940. The center is distorted and loses its central reference as you use the ForceTrim. Edited May 7, 2013 by P1KW "If adventure is dangerous, try the routine. It is deadly." Paulo Coelho.
Grenadey Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 You can definitely fly with linear axes on an extended stick. :) Toad, Shark, Huey and Mi-8 driver. 27" iMac 3.4Ghz i7, 16GB DDR3, 2GB 680MX . Logitech G940 (modded), 2 x crappy Dell 1024x768 monitors for ShKval, ABRIS etc. TrackIR 3, Trackclip Pro.
Grenadey Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Here's a pic of the quick and dirty extension I made to the G940. This will be replaced with 12mm aluminium pipe in the near future. Edited May 7, 2013 by Grenadey Toad, Shark, Huey and Mi-8 driver. 27" iMac 3.4Ghz i7, 16GB DDR3, 2GB 680MX . Logitech G940 (modded), 2 x crappy Dell 1024x768 monitors for ShKval, ABRIS etc. TrackIR 3, Trackclip Pro.
PeroperoDokkiri Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Wow it looks easy to do actually. I am going to get it soon then! [sIGPIC]http://i55.tinypic.com/21oydlx.jpg[/sIGPIC] ヒューイ最高!o(≧∇≦o)
Grenadey Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Yeah it's very easy to do. I used plastic plumbing pipe and wooden dowling to attach the handle to the pipe and a handful of self-tapping screws to hold it all together. You really need to use SimFFB to keep the stick in place especially if you plan on doing any hands-off work with the shark. Plus, SimFFB simulates the correct way for force-trim to work. i.e. no forces on the stick when trimmer is held down. With this setup the stick is now actually too long and doesn't give enough control input, so you need to lower the X-saturation until you get to the point that you are comfortable throwing the acft around. I have mine set to 50 on both the X and Y axes. Edited May 7, 2013 by Grenadey Toad, Shark, Huey and Mi-8 driver. 27" iMac 3.4Ghz i7, 16GB DDR3, 2GB 680MX . Logitech G940 (modded), 2 x crappy Dell 1024x768 monitors for ShKval, ABRIS etc. TrackIR 3, Trackclip Pro.
PeroperoDokkiri Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 50? Bloody hell with my short stick I could do fine with 20 on my first hour of flying Huey. Do You mean it looses precision with longer stick? I thought it has hall sensors, so it should be fine. Maybe You mean FFB which uses these gears is not precise? [sIGPIC]http://i55.tinypic.com/21oydlx.jpg[/sIGPIC] ヒューイ最高!o(≧∇≦o)
Grenadey Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 50? Bloody hell with my short stick I could do fine with 20 on my first hour of flying Huey. Do You mean it looses precision with longer stick? I thought it has hall sensors, so it should be fine. Maybe You mean FFB which uses these gears is not precise? No, it's not less precise you just need to move the stick further to get the desired input. Lowering X saturation increases sensitivity as the longer stick needs to be moved further. Toad, Shark, Huey and Mi-8 driver. 27" iMac 3.4Ghz i7, 16GB DDR3, 2GB 680MX . Logitech G940 (modded), 2 x crappy Dell 1024x768 monitors for ShKval, ABRIS etc. TrackIR 3, Trackclip Pro.
PeroperoDokkiri Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Ok I understand, thanks! [sIGPIC]http://i55.tinypic.com/21oydlx.jpg[/sIGPIC] ヒューイ最高!o(≧∇≦o)
Grenadey Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 No, problem. Anything to help! Toad, Shark, Huey and Mi-8 driver. 27" iMac 3.4Ghz i7, 16GB DDR3, 2GB 680MX . Logitech G940 (modded), 2 x crappy Dell 1024x768 monitors for ShKval, ABRIS etc. TrackIR 3, Trackclip Pro.
Emmer Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) For now things run smooth.........:thumbup: Thank y'all or the info and help. It's really appreciated. Edited May 8, 2013 by Emmer [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
Lt.Seahawk Posted May 10, 2013 Author Posted May 10, 2013 Wow thanks for all the replys, Ive been quite busy with learning, due to the fact that I have my final exams as an aircraft mechanic engineer next tuesday, so wish me some luck ;) Ill give the 15% Deadzone a try I guess, right now I have it at 25 but this seems to be to much. DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
Emmer Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 And how did you do at those exams? You passed them? [sIGPIC]http://www.fulltimepilots.nl/Sigs/LLTM2014.jpg[/sIGPIC] http://www.fulltimepilots.nl
Lt.Seahawk Posted June 8, 2013 Author Posted June 8, 2013 Sorry, just saw it. Yeah I passed with 90% ;) DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
jib Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 I run my G940 with the Easy Extension I use SimFFB with 100% spring and damper force. I do not use a deadzone at all. I use a 25% curvature on the Stick and a 45% on the pedals (although I might go back to tring 0% on the stick, but I will have to learn to fly the Huey all over again) I'm thinking of putting a curvature onto the throttle because you need to move the collective such small amounts when you are in the hover, it is hard ATM with linear. Mods I use: KA-50 JTAC - Better Fire and Smoke - Unchain Rudder from trim KA50 - Sim FFB for G940 - Beczl Rocket Pods Updated! Processor: Intel Q6600 @ 3.00GHz GPU: GeForce MSI RTX 2060 6GB RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR2 HDD: 1TBGB Crucial SSD OS: Windows 10, 64-bit Peripherals: Logitech G940 Hotas, TrackiR 5, Voice Activated commands , Sharkoon 5.1 headset. ,Touch Control for iPad, JoyToKey
sondo214 Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Problem with my G940 Hi there to everybody, I am new to DCS, and I am interested in flying the Huey which I bought. But I have problem configuring my axis to work. I cannot find the correct axis assing for the colective. The axis it auto detects when I hit the assign for the collective, affects the pitch and roll of the heli (left throttle the pitch and right the roll). What am I doing wrong? I ask in this thread because I belive that there is a problem with the huey because with the SU-25 both throttles work fine. Thanks a lot
Flagrum Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Hi there to everybody, I am new to DCS, and I am interested in flying the Huey which I bought. But I have problem configuring my axis to work. I cannot find the correct axis assing for the colective. The axis it auto detects when I hit the assign for the collective, affects the pitch and roll of the heli (left throttle the pitch and right the roll). What am I doing wrong? I ask in this thread because I belive that there is a problem with the huey because with the SU-25 both throttles work fine. Thanks a lot Check the axis assignments under Options->Controls for the Huey. Most likely a throttle and a stick axis are assigned together to one function. Make sure, only one axis is assigned each.
sondo214 Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 You are right, I was looking at the wrong tab, it has Uh game, Uh sim and finaly got it. Thanks anyway!
AussieFX Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Hello gentlemen. I seem to have this blasted issue with my 940 and the collective not mapping to the throttles with my Huey. I have deleted over and over the DCS folder and let it rebuild but still I have no luck. What I have noticed is the default mapping (after I delete the folder) shows up as a slider instead of the _z axis. This happens in sim mode. So I change it from slider to _z axis, go into the game and sometimes I get a tiny initial movement like it wants to work and then nothing. The really strange thing is I can always control the collective from my R1 pot on the throttle. Any ideas? This is driving me nuts... Sorry for the hijack/resurrection of an old thread, this thread was all I could find after a search. I can take some screenshots if that's helpful.
AussieFX Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Bump. Any ideas on this? It seems I have a conflict with the R1 pot on the throttle and the throttles themselves. I have gone through the controller list and deleted everything besides the axis and it still happens. Nothing is mapped to R1 at all yet it is the only collective control I have. The Logitech profiler is running in the system tray, should I disable it? The game is currently unplayable. :cry:
Abburo Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) There are several approaches: 1. I found myself having some random problems while the Logitech Profiler was active. I stopped it and also disabled to automatically run on windows start and I have no more problems since then. My problems were not related to axis but to some buttons on throtle. 2. Is your axis working if you are going to test it under joy.cpl? If not then is higly possible that your internal wires on throttle to have some problems. For this you clearly have to open the base and do further checks. Let us know about that findings and we might consider further scenarios if needed. Edited February 21, 2014 by Abburo Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
AussieFX Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Thanks for the reply. joy.cpl? I'm not sure what that is. The throttles are moving when I calibrate them if that's what you're getting at. I believe I have the axis mapped correctly, it seems to me that the R1 pot is interfering. When I push the collective throttle I (sometimes) get a tiny bit of movement but nothing usable. I haven't mapped R1 to anything AFAIK yet it has full control over the collective.
Abburo Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 joy.cpl is indeed the windows utility program used to calibrate the joystick as you already mention. You can run it from command line more quickly. Then try the followings: 1. clean mapping files from your username/saved games/dcs/input 2. start the game and go to controls for Huey. Select a field on G940 Throttle and then click "Clear category" button which is on top of controls window. Repeat clear category for all devices, G940 Joystick and G940 Pedals. 3. Change the layer to Axis mappings and repeat once more the clear category for each device. ----- above actions assure you there will be absolutely no assignments or duplicate assignments for G940 devices 4. Map all functions as needed. 4. You have to fix also your wires.You also might want to change all wires coming from right throttle because original are flimsy and the contact is imperfect. I soldiered all the wires inside directly to controller board. 5. Be sure the connectivity to the G940 joystick is also good. R1 and R2 cannot interfere with the 2 throttle main axis just because they are connecting on different ways to the main controller. Controller is not broken otherwise nothing will work. 1 Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
Abburo Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Could also be an option that your pot be out of order. You can quickly change it with any of R1 or R2 , or even the trimmer pots from main joystick. Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
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