TrackIR change in 1.2.6

[Wolf Rider]

Running on the Default doesn't affect the inner workings of the TIR any more than setting up a custom profile does. Setting up a Custom Profile just customises the parameters to suit the user, and well worth the going through

[spn]

Running on the Default doesn't affect the inner workings of the TIR any more than setting up a custom profile does. Setting up a Custom Profile just customises the parameters to suit the user, and well worth the going through

 

Wolf Rider, I never saw the first part of this post. All I saw was the discussion about TrackIr not running smoothly. I wasn't signed on at the time and the post showed up as todays post. I'm not having the issues with TIR that it seems other people are having with DCS. There are differances within each of the TIR profiles, default, one to one, slow and smooth, how'll there fine tuned and they react with DCS or any other sim they are used in. It's just like adjusting the axis settings in DCS options.

Edited October 2, 2013 by spn

[_Dredd]

Wolf Rider, I never saw the first part of this post. All I saw was the discussion about TrackIr not running smoothly. I wasn't signed on at the time and the post showed up as todays post. I'm not having the issues with TIR that it seems other people are having with DCS. There are differances within each of the TIR profiles, default, one to one, slow and smooth, how'll there fine tuned and they react with DCS or any other sim they are used in. It's just like adjusting the axis settings in DCS options.

 

Aware, but the profile and tuning has nothing to do with what is occuring.

 

You mention you dont see it;

 

what's your specs.

TrackIR model

Software version

Operating system 32 or 64

System MEM

 

If we voluntary bug troublshoot this ourselves maybe we can solve it; before we wait for another month or so for a fix, if it is fixed(as not one tester , etc has acknowledged this as yet) rant over.

[Lange_666]

Anybody tested the new 1.2.6.18651.276 DCS Update to see if this TrackIR problem is solved?

[_Dredd]

Update 2 is out. I'm not able to test till later in the week, can anyone confirm if this is fixed after installing latest updates.

Much appreciated.

[Lange_666]

No it didn't...:cry:

 

Means that i'm on 1.2.6 again without a solution and have to revert back to 1.2.5 to solve it and which again means no MP since most of the servers run 1.2.6. Crap!!!

 

Think i'll ditch DCS for a while. Wanted to get me the Mi-8 but i have put that on hold until this is solved...

Edited October 8, 2013 by Lange_666

[_Dredd]

:(

 

What version trackir software are you using?

I'm surprised others aren't reporting seeing the same.. What on earth could it be.

Tmrw night I have some time to go through some installation changes and testing. :joystick:

[Lange_666]

4 with 5'ver software

[OGREMAN]

Noticable stepping & skips of TrackIR with v1.2.6

 

I have experienced the same skipping/stepping behaviour in Track IR since the 1.2.6 patches. It is certainly an irritating effect.

 

My Rig is:OS;-Win7 home premium +svc pack1 64bit, CPU;-Intel Core i7-2600K @3.4 x 3.4GHz Motherboard;-ASUS P8Z68-VLX + Intel

Chipset Graphics:-NVIDIA ZOTAC Gtx 560Ti 10024MB DDR5 HDMI DVI PCI Internal Drive;-Primary C drive Kingston SSD SVP200S 3240G ATA, Secondry Drive Seagate "Barracuda" 1Tb SATA

1700RPM 32MB cache RAM 4x2048MB DDR3 PC3 12800 @ 1600Mhz 240 tot=8.00 GB

TrakIR4Pro(using driver ver 4.2.039) HOTAS;- Saitek X52 Pro + Saitek Pro Rudder pedals.

[_Dredd]

No fix

 

So I did some numerous tests the other night, still no fix to this irritating frame skipping with moving view left and right slowly but not too slow from center.

Running the latest 1.2.6 U2.

Now my theories..

Either

1) this has something to do with the world ands game is now caching data and a read/write problem somewhere is happening when the view is moved in 5degree increments through to 180. It just isn't smooth anymore, and it's not the trackir causing it, unless it's the way the game is using it.

 

2) it has something to do with the ground boundary box being open, that is you can move mouse view under the earth and lookup to the bottom of the plane and water.

 

Something to do with fullscreen and multimonitor arrangements ?

 

Now the interesting thing is that this is less noticeable when over the water, and as soon as you are low over land the skipping becomes worse when moving the cockpit view. My frames over land with my setup are approx. 35-38 fps. Over water my fps is around 58-60.

 

I tried all manners of vertical sync, and they all make it worse, so I always leave vsync off.

 

This isn't happening in 1.2.5. Trackir cockpit view moved freely without skipping, yet the world movement hap a slight skip, of which it now feels more fluid, but the opposite is occurring with trackir movement.

 

It's pretty annoying, and I'm guessing here with what is clearly observable since 1.2.5. :doh:

[howie87]

Confirmed still present in 1.2.6 update 2. Very annoying...

[Lange_666]

somewhere is happening when the view is moved in 5degree increments through to 180. It just isn't smooth anymore, and it's not the trackir causing it, unless it's the way the game is using it.

 

No, it's not TrackIR that's the cause because if you use the view keys to look left and right you get the same effect without TrackIR even running.

[TZeer]

Phu!

 

Happy to see this thread, sort of.

 

Been out of the sim for a while and did the update dance etc.

 

First thing I noticed was stuttering when using track IR to look around. If I keep my view steady looking to the side, smooth as silk. As soon as I start moving my head to look around, very noticeable stutter/jitter.

 

Flying around, external view etc, everything smooth. Move head, feels my eyes are going to start bleeding any moment.

 

Not touching this with a ten foot pole until it's fixed.

[_Dredd]

With 6000 views on this thread so far, I hope this is reported as a bug.

Where's the appropriate bug thread to add this to the list.

[howie87]

With 6000 views on this thread so far, I hope this is reported as a bug.

Where's the appropriate bug thread to add this to the list.

 

You're on it...

[_Dredd]

You're on it...

 

For the sake of fixing this, I hope so. :music_whistling:

At present I think I may upgrade to 32GB ram to see what further improvements occur with ram caching. I'm also curious what happens if trackir runs on second core with different affinity. At present my gut tells me this is all related with the 64bit LUA changes and memory caching, or... I'm wrong and a dev can report on it...

Edited October 15, 2013 by _Dredd

[Lange_666]

I build a new rig yesterday. After installing Windows 8 Pro i installed DCS World on it, TrackIR and my controllers and went for a try. Still same problem.

 

@_Dredd: I went from 12GB RAM in my old system to 16 GB in my new, didn't help so i doubt that going to 32 GB will cure this.

 

Old system:

i7 950 @ 3.07

GTX480 1.5 GB

12 GB RAM PC 1600

 

New system:

i7 4770K @ 3.5 (still at stock, overclocking is for later when everything is installed and running as it should)

GTX780 OC 3GB

16 GB RAM PC 2100

 

On a sidenote: Still have to do a few tests performance wise but i did put the GTX780 in my old system first to see what a new gfx would bring. Well, as good as nothing. FPS where +/- the same, maybe 3-5% at max.

Then today did the same test but running for the first time on my new system, FPS went 110-120% higher at the same spot, same mission. So i'm quite a happy man performance wise, now if this could be solved, where back in business...

[_Dredd]

Yeah the 4770 would compliment that new card nicely.

I guess I'll wait.. Wonder how far away 1.2.7 is.

[Lange_666]

Been running some performance tests with my new system and i can say the TrackIR problem is more pronounced at lower framerates.

At framerates around 120 the stutter is only very very minimal, but when FPS comes down the stutter goes up. If i cut off the FPS at 30 (by selecting Adaptive VSync), it becomes very anoying.

I reverted to 1.2.5. again and there it does not exist at all, smooth movement all the way, even at 30 FPS.

[TZeer]

I'm gonna revert as well. I can't enjoy the sim in this condition.

[_Dredd]

Plea to ED Testers

 

We really need ED testers to help out here and request from ED if they can address what ever has changed with this, and if it can be raised as an official bug to be corrected. What they have done with 1.2.6 here needs to be addressed.

 

Please guys, puhlease!! 6000 views, and I don't think one tester has commented here as yet?

 

:doh:

[gavagai]

Reverted to 1.2.5 a long time ago. What's the deal with this bug?

[_Dredd]

Reverted to 1.2.5 a long time ago. What's the deal with this bug?

 

No idea but it's porked, and slightly peeved no one has noted that it's been seen and will be raised with ED to be addressed in the next patch. :mad:

[Lange_666]

Reverted to 1.2.5 a long time ago. What's the deal with this bug?

Still present.

[_Dredd]

New update is out. Can someone test to see if this issue is still present?

Not at game pc for few days.