camsr Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Quick question, do both engines need to be spun up before any alignment can happen, real life and/or game? Or am I wasting time in the game by not starting up systems after the first engine? IFFCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros23 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 You can start alignment after APU Gen is on (before engine start). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENO Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Once you flick your APU power on most systems will start spooling up without the engines running except SAS- I think the left engine needs to start spooling before those switches will stay up. The time wasted is if you're not flicking and clicking your other systems while the APU spools up. "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeproject Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 EAC not with mouse I'm still finding that no matter what I can not CLICK the EAC switch. I have to assign it to a keyboard combination. If I use the mouse it just clicks back, if I use the keyboard it stays put however the EAC warning light remains on. Is the mouse not working, or is the keyboard only graphically working and not actually turning on EAC at all. I've had this problem since I bought the DVD of A10 DCS and it put me completely off for a year. Now I'm back with DCS world module and it's still doing it. How are you supposed to learn such a complicated sim with these kinds of inconsistencies in the actual game code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaoslaad Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 You need to have the CDU at 4.0 0.8, NAV clicked, all SAS switches on, the EGI button clicked behind the stick, and with all that you can click the EAC switch. If any of that is not satisfied it will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xaoslaad Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 We'll try with video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZKITmMLn54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winfield_Gold Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm still finding that no matter what I can not CLICK the EAC switch. I have to assign it to a keyboard combination. If I use the mouse it just clicks back, if I use the keyboard it stays put however the EAC warning light remains on. Is the mouse not working, or is the keyboard only graphically working and not actually turning on EAC at all. I've had this problem since I bought the DVD of A10 DCS and it put me completely off for a year. Now I'm back with DCS world module and it's still doing it. How are you supposed to learn such a complicated sim with these kinds of inconsistencies in the actual game code? First rule of Fight Club: Don't move the aircraft until the NAV System is aligned (seperate to the EO Mav Power Alignment) It's not the code it's the operator who can't figure out how to fire up the EAC. The code is not the issue here, the problem is you don't understand the fundamentals in how to correctly boot up the navigation system. Once the MFD's are on and you have pressed "Load All" wait for the '*' to come back on then press CDU on the right MFD. You will see heaps of writing but the only thing to take note of is the where it says 'INIT POSITION" under that you will see a "T= *****" the * is numbers that are counting upwards. This is the alignment numbers. Don't press anything else in the right MFD other than the CDU page when you press "Load All" Keep on going with other systems such as Radio's etc. Wait for the numbers to reach 4.0 0.8 and it will flash "INS NAV READY" once this has happened press OSB-9 (NAV) on the right MSD then press the 'EGI' Navigation button on the centre console below the compass (directly in front of the Joystick) once you have done this, you will be able to arm the EAC and Radar Altimeter Button (both directly under the throttles) Then check the warning light panels for anything else that you have forgotten or don't know how to turn on. Before jumping to conclusions and blaming the coders\devs, take a bit of time out and read the flight manual. People are far to quick to jump on here and breathe fire when they have N.F.I what they are doing or how to go about doing something. If you still can't arm the EAC with the mouse pointer, You have moved the aircraft before the NAV system has reached 4.0 0.8 or you have pressed the NAV button, EGI or EAC before the Nav system has reached 4.0 0.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm still finding that no matter what I can not CLICK the EAC switch. I have to assign it to a keyboard combination. If I use the mouse it just clicks back, if I use the keyboard it stays put however the EAC warning light remains on. Is the mouse not working, or is the keyboard only graphically working and not actually turning on EAC at all. I've had this problem since I bought the DVD of A10 DCS and it put me completely off for a year. Now I'm back with DCS world module and it's still doing it. How are you supposed to learn such a complicated sim with these kinds of inconsistencies in the actual game code? For EAC to work, INS must be Aligned, So, Power on CDU, Allow it to Align, Click OSB9 for NAV on right MFCD after CDU is Aligned (4 minutes when Parked, 7 or so in Flight) Behind the Flight stick, click the EGI Button, Make sure Pitch and Yaw SAS are on. Switch Radar Alt. to Normal. Switch on EAC. Never had any start up issues with EAC in a while. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeproject Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) First rule of Fight Club: Don't move the aircraft until the NAV System is aligned (seperate to the EO Mav Power Alignment) It's not the code it's the operator who can't figure out how to fire up the EAC. The code is not the issue here, the problem is you don't understand the fundamentals in how to correctly boot up the navigation system. Once the MFD's are on and you have pressed "Load All" wait for the '*' to come back on then press CDU on the right MFD. You will see heaps of writing but the only thing to take note of is the where it says 'INIT POSITION" under that you will see a "T= *****" the * is numbers that are counting upwards. This is the alignment numbers. Don't press anything else in the right MFD other than the CDU page when you press "Load All" Keep on going with other systems such as Radio's etc. Wait for the numbers to reach 4.0 0.8 and it will flash "INS NAV READY" once this has happened press OSB-9 (NAV) on the right MSD then press the 'EGI' Navigation button on the centre console below the compass (directly in front of the Joystick) once you have done this, you will be able to arm the EAC and Radar Altimeter Button (both directly under the throttles) Then check the warning light panels for anything else that you have forgotten or don't know how to turn on. Before jumping to conclusions and blaming the coders\devs, take a bit of time out and read the flight manual. People are far to quick to jump on here and breathe fire when they have N.F.I what they are doing or how to go about doing something. If you still can't arm the EAC with the mouse pointer, You have moved the aircraft before the NAV system has reached 4.0 0.8 or you have pressed the NAV button, EGI or EAC before the Nav system has reached 4.0 0.8 I wasn't selecting EGI which is why I couldn't enable EAC. My point about the game code was that whilst selecting EAC with the mouse the switch correctly (as I now know) moves back to the original position. However using the keyboard it does not which the game is showing the switch in the incorrect position. It's very hard to learn something when you don't know if what the game is showing you is what you are supposed to be seeing. This was my concern as the benchmark for whether I was doing the correct thing or not was suddenly quite skewed. Thanks all for helping me and I understand why you guys get frustrated answering the same stuff all the time. No one's really even noticed what I said about the difference between the keyboard and mouse control interactions though. You get annoyed with the same old questions, but getting the same answers as soon as someone mentions EAC is irritating too even though there was more to my post than that Edited October 14, 2013 by jeproject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winfield_Gold Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I wasn't selecting EGI which is why I couldn't enable EAC. My point about the game code was that whilst selecting EAC with the mouse the switch correctly (as I now know) moves back to the original position. However using the keyboard it does not which the game is showing the switch in the incorrect position. It's very hard to learn something when you don't know if what the game is showing you is what you are supposed to be seeing. This was my concern as the benchmark for whether I was doing the correct thing or not was suddenly quite skewed. Thanks for helping me and I understand why you guys get frustrated answering the same stuff all the time. No one's really even noticed what I said about the difference between the keyboard and mouse control interactions though. You get annoyed with the same old questions, but getting the same answers as soon as someone mentions EAC is irritating too even though there was more to my post than that. Fair call, apologies for jumping the gun. I did not look at the fact the keyboard short-cut allows the switch to stay forward even when the EAC is not armed. I have always armed it with the mouse pointer and when something is wrong or I have forgotten something, it flicks itself off in the same way as the anti collision light switch does when I have not powered up the external lighting systems power. FYI the short-cut if you did not already know is "LEFT CRTL+P" to power up external lighting systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Fair call, apologies for jumping the gun. I did not look at the fact the keyboard short-cut allows the switch to stay forward even when the EAC is not armed. I have always armed it with the mouse pointer and when something is wrong or I have forgotten something, it flicks itself off in the same way as the anti collision light switch does when I have not powered up the external lighting systems power. FYI the short-cut if you did not already know is "LEFT CRTL+P" to power up external lighting systems Left Control +P is Pinky Switch AFT, which allows External Lights to be Set by the Cockpit Panel. Pinky Switch Forward is Default Pinky Switch Center is Lights Off. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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