nickexists Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 On single player missions the wingmen seem to immediately know where everything is. I've been playing "defend Yankee base" and I can just tell the wingman to engage air defenses and he will have taken them all out with mavericks as soon as thev've gotten within range.
hreich Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 I always wanted my wingman to be so effective [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Pilot from Croatia
lunaticfringe Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Just imagine you're flying with Shaved Dogs Ass; thus, you're all set to take the glory he's giving you.
Haukka81 Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Old broblem, AI has x-ray vision and reflects of snake. Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Yurgon Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 On single player missions the wingmen seem to immediately know where everything is. I've been playing "defend Yankee base" and I can just tell the wingman to engage air defenses and he will have taken them all out with mavericks as soon as thev've gotten within range. Huh. My wingmen prefer to perform SEAD by eating every 23mm bullet and Igla missile the enemy has in the AO while I look for targets from Angels 20. :doh: Engaging a group of targets takes many times the time and weapons with AI wingmen compared to human controlled aircraft. If they're actually good at something, I really wouldn't call it cheating to let them do their job. :D
AtaliaA1 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I use wingmen when I just want a "Quickey." If I have time I put them on SEAD call JTAC and steal all of the glory for myself. Put myself in for a few "Leather Medals." afterwards. This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
Pyroflash Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 If you think this is bad, just wait to see how fast people will be taking out SAM's when DCS: F/A-18C comes out. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
Nume Noctre Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 I think using the wingman is just fine and adds up a little to the realism. In the end it is all about getting the mission done in a most efficient way. To me that includes using all of your resources - including your wingman. In the game however, the wingman is AI and if you don´t use it right he will die quickly. So i rather use the wingman for the easier jobs and leave the heavier stuff to me. Attacking more challenging targets by yourself is more rewarding and you don´t run our of ammo so quickly. Plus: Your Wingman is so much more effective when attacking infantry!!!! :D Best Nume [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Check out my channel
NhiTrac Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Do you guys try to fly using RL tactics? Eg do you "provide cover" when you order your wingy to attack? I find most of the time they'll get themselves shot down even when working with JTAC... That or I haven't scouted the area properly. Btw, why is it that they fly off into the far distance when I tell them to attack my SPI? Sometimes they'll even "RTB". I'll then have to tell them to rejoin and then attack, and it works! Bug or am I doing something wrong? Last question: when you give them an attack heading eg default, north, east etc, is that the compass bearing relative to the target as per the TPG? Edited January 13, 2014 by NhiTrac Intel i5 4670 | GTX 970 | 8 gb Ram | Windows 10 Thrustmaster Warthog | Saitek Rudders | Logitech G27 | Astro A40
Yurgon Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Do you guys try to fly using RL tactics? Eg do you "provide cover" when you order your wingy to attack? What am I, their mother? :D But seriously, I've never tried that with AI wingmen. What would I do anyways if I see AAA or MANPADs shot at them? I could give some very basic orders, but chances are they'll know about the threat before I've reached the Mic switch and they'll get themselves killed regardless. Btw, why is it that they fly off into the far distance when I tell them to attack my SPI? Sometimes they'll even "RTB". I'll then have to tell them to rejoin and then attack, and it works! Bug or am I doing something wrong? Definitely a bug. I read once that your chances are better if you order them to attack while you yourself are not too far from the target. Should be less than 10km IIRC, possibly even less. But I'm not up to date whether that still works or whether this type of behavior has been corrected in 1.2.7. I flew "Hideout" a few days ago and my wingy did a pretty good job, but that may just have been a series of lucky incidents. :music_whistling: Last question: when you give them an attack heading eg default, north, east etc, is that the compass bearing relative to the target as per the TPG? That's the ingress heading towards the target (as in: compass heading) and has nothing to do with the TGP. Doesn't matter so much in DCS, but in the real world, it's always nice to drop bombs so that the blast isn't directed towards friendlies or civilians. :)
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